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Seann Walsh / Katya Jones snogging

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ShirleyPhallus · 08/10/2018 10:17

Maybe this should go in celebrity gossip if such a board exists but I feel so sorry for his girlfriend and her husband

How likely is it they’ll be voted out of Strictly this weekend?

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Haworthia · 10/10/2018 09:46

Oh, of course, maybe Rebecca Humphries is lying when she says her boyfriend used to call her a psycho/nuts/mental. It’s the first page of the gaslighters rulebook but nope, maybe she’s made it up.

Why are women always assumed to be lying when they accuse men of abuse?

I believe her.

coatsandats · 10/10/2018 09:50

That video is surely just a kind of joke between mates though isn't it?

coatsandats · 10/10/2018 09:51

The wedding video I mean, not the Sean(n) kissing video

Raspberry88 · 10/10/2018 09:55

I'm not assuming that she's lying at all. I'm saying there's a possibility that he's not as bad as she's making out which is a perfectly legitimate viewpoint. Ffs, what happened to being reasonable or should there be an assumption that everything every woman says is truthful now!

Loonoon · 10/10/2018 10:15

TBF to Sean AND Rebecca we have only heard her side of the story. HE has an absolute right to contradict her statement. He can give his side of the story and deny the emotional abuse or he could admit it and apologise for it....but he hasn’t. Apart from the initial apology statement (clearly drafted by a media adviser) he has been quiet. That’s probably his best option in the long run.

I tend to believe women who say they have been abused by men. IME they are usually telling the truth.

Loonoon · 10/10/2018 10:20

The worst thing about that wedding video is the poor quality lip syncing.

mydogisthebest · 10/10/2018 10:44

I am not saying she is lying but how do any of us know? As another poster says are all women to be believed no matter what they say? One of my friends is a lovely person but she is a liar. All her friends know that and take what she says with a pinch of salt.

Haworthia, you say you believe her. Do you know her? How can you be so certain? I don't know whether I believe her or not because I don't know her, don't know Seann, don't know what their relationship was like and nor, I am sure, do you or all the people thinking it is ok to treat someone who may only be guilty of a snog so appallingly

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 11:25

I am not saying she is lying but how do any of us know?

Well he has been lying about nothing going on between them for starters.

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 11:27

To be honest the pictures looked almost like he went out for an innocent drink, she rang him to say that she suspected something and he just thought, fuck it...I might as well.

Well tbh calling your girlfriend to tell her you are going out for a drink with someone else on your GF birthday doesn't exactly go down well.

Loonoon · 10/10/2018 11:40

I have been out for a drink with colleagues /mates many, many times as has DH. Never once have we felt the need to emphasise how innocent it is. And (I can only speak for myself here obviously) I have never yet snogged a colleague by the bins. That in itself for me is deeply suspicious. I could almost understand getting carried away in the heat of the moment but going out to the bin area suggests planning ahead.

Badtasteflump · 10/10/2018 11:50

That is one narcissistic wedding video Shock

Raspberry88 · 10/10/2018 11:51

Well, I doubt he said they were going out for an 'innocent' drink. The innocent is an addition after the fact. I imagine what she means is he told her they were going out for a quick drink, that would sound innocent to me. Fair one about the birthday though, that's crap.

Haworthia · 10/10/2018 12:06

Haworthia, you say you believe her. Do you know her? How can you be so certain?

I believe her simply because she said it happened. Why would she make it up? She hardly comes out of it looking good, does she? He abused her and she stayed with him.

I refuse to buy into this oh-so-common belief that women accuse men of being abusive (or of sexually assaulting them, or raping them) to get back at them, to bring them down, or best of all, to make money.

I have yet to understand how a woman makes money from such a thing.

HairyToity · 10/10/2018 12:12

I didn't think it was a genuine marriage. Just a gay cover up/ visa marriage. Now I've seen the video I think it is genuine. Sad

PrincessScarlett · 10/10/2018 12:28

There was a "PR expert" on BBC news this morning basically saying that this year Strictly doesn't have the same caliber of celebrities as previous years so it's all very convenient for the show that this incident has gotten so much attention and everyone is talking about it.

I bet Sean and Katya are dying to respond to Sean's ex girlfriends comments but they are being managed by the Strictly PR team.

I'm not saying his ex is lying but it is very hard for any of us to judge when we are only getting one side of the story.

TiredPony · 10/10/2018 12:37

I didn't think it was a genuine marriage. Just a gay cover up/ visa marriage. Now I've seen the video I think it is genuine.

I thought the opposite. No affection between them, no glances of togetherness. Even the kiss was awkward - like they weren't used to kissing each other. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but at least with Sean(n) it was a full on snog.

Sarcelle · 10/10/2018 12:54

Although her statement may be genuine, just because she is female it doesn’t mean that it is. I am not on his side but I am starting to get uneasy about the way a finger has been pointed at him, accusing him of abuse and we all accept that. She has followed that up by retweeting a woman’s aid tweet, which compounds the accusation. She is hurt, who wouldn’t be, who’s to say she is not trying to get him pulled from SCD or end his career but he is just guilt of being a knob?

Roxanne Pallett made unfounded accusation. It happens. Seann is a bit of wally and a chancer, but that may be it. The fact that he has made no attempt to apologise seems to infer he did not care about ending the relationship. I read somewhere that when he moved in with her he referred to her in his stand up, gushing about her. In later times he has complained about her trying to control him. I know that is an act, but who knows, maybe he just wants fun. As does Katya by the looks of it.

Starting to look like a witchhunt. I didn’t think they should continue originally but now I do. It will be awkward but it is a dance comp, their morals are nothing to do with me.

PrincessScarlett · 10/10/2018 13:25

It's been talked about for the second time this week on This Morning and Shirley Ballas brushed over it and refused to be drawn on it. I find it odd that everyone to do with Strictly is silent on the issue. But as Phillip said, viewing figures will be massive this week!

Sarcelle, I think Sean's silence could infer he is being gagged by Strictly, not necessarily that he doesn't care or doesn't want to answer his critics. I'm sure when they finally get booted off there will be lots of interviews but in the meantime it's better for the show if everyone keeps quiet.

Raspberry88 · 10/10/2018 13:43

I am starting to get uneasy about the way a finger has been pointed at him, accusing him of abuse and we all accept that.
I agree. Calling someone a psycho or mental in the context of an argument is horrible but it isn't evidence of abuse in itself. Cheating on a partner is crap but it isn't abuse. For all we know she accuses him of cheating every time he goes out. Certainly he mentions her not wanting him to go out drinking with his mates in his stand up. If we were talking about this the other way on, a man not wanting his girlfriend to go out with her mates then we would call it controlling. It sounds like an unhealthy relationship all round anyway so probably best it's over. I don't like her a statement though, dignified to me would just be to say that it was over and she was fine. Now she's accused him of abuse and whether or not he has been it's going to stick and I'm not sure what he can say to counter it so no wonder he's staying quiet.

Badtasteflump · 10/10/2018 13:49

I agree Raspberry. The fact is, none of us know the truth but his girlfriend (who is clearly angry, understandably), has been ambiguous enough in her statement to put the suggestion there that he could be abusive, without actually saying he is. And we all know that mud sticks.

I think in time she may wish she hadn't said as much as she did.

Ragaroo · 10/10/2018 13:52

I really can't see Seann and Katya appearing in Strictly this week. Can you imagine the endless hiccups that might be involved... booing from the audience, the awkward "fun skit" at the beginning of their dance, where they do a little routine of what they've been up to this week? hiding under a rock they will back out, probably Friday just before the show.

The news stories are ridiculous but at the end of the day, they are popular stories and this is why the papers (cough daily mail cough) are running this story dry. The amount of comments on the stories is phenomenal!

The main reason why Seann is getting the flack is because of the emotional abuse he allegedly gave his gf during their relationship. He can't really say anything to defend himself (unless she is lying) and deserves the flack he gets. Katya is married, yes - but she (1) apologised to her husband on Twitter and (2) is receiving a lot of support from her family, and if they don't mind her little affair, why should we? Seann on the other hand; take a look at his instagram and Twitter and tell me how much his gf has appeared on his social media in recent years. Not much. That, and the fact he didn't give Becky a public apology, shows he really never gave a shit about her.

SillySallySingsSongs · 10/10/2018 13:54

I think in time she may wish she hadn't said as much as she did.

Why should she?

He didn't even give her the courtesy of apologising to her before the rest of the world. Then Karta and Sean(n) give outvirtyally identical statements at the same time.

He publically humiliated her yet she is supposed to remain 'dignified'. Hmm

Ragaroo · 10/10/2018 13:56

On the positive side, Becky's twitter following has increased more the ten fold this week and hopefully she gets more career opportunities just by virtue of being in the public eye. As someone who has been cheated on - good for fucking her!! takes hat off

Badtasteflump · 10/10/2018 14:02

I think in time she may wish she hadn't said as much as she did.

Why should she?

Because to me it reads that he may or may not have crossed the line into being abusive rather than just being unfaithful. And I think that ambiguity may be intentional because she's angry and probably wants to hurt him back. If you want to tell the world your ex abused
you, tell them, clearly and without ambiguity. Why leave it open to interpretation?

Badtasteflump · 10/10/2018 14:07

And nobody's arguing the fact that he cheated on her, didn't admit it until he had to, and therefore humiliated her.

The point is her statement has now suggested much darker, abusive behaviour - but suggested, not presented as a fact. Why do it that way? Why not say 'when we were together he did this this and this' - if it's true. Cheating on somebody, and even then lying about it towards the sticky end of a relationship is just what happens - people are hardly ever open about it from the start or it wouldn't be called cheating! Doesn't mean he's an abuser.