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Jeremy Corbyn

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PingusPaws · 26/09/2018 21:15

I think he could be a great principled Prime Minister.

He wants to stop the selling off of the NHS and pump money into it. Everyone is equal when it comes to treatment no matter how much money you have The NHS is a gold standard of excellence for all.

The Tories/May want to privatise the NHS. So if you don't have a enough money to pay for private treatment, you will die. Good times ahead if the Tories are in power...

Labour wants More Social Housing, for the young, hard working and disadvantaged, which now also includes anyone under 30, who will not be able to raise a deposit on a average family home.

Rightful payments will made to those who are disabled, or not able to work. Under the Tories there were many legitimate benefits payments rejected to those who had terminal cancer and other life limiting illnesses, The guardian highlighted this issue.

Also BREXIT

What say you?

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ThefusilliJerry · 28/09/2018 10:23

Six points behind according to you gov
Where’s that conference bounce, Jezza?
Against the feeblest Tory government since heath

SillySallySingsSongs · 28/09/2018 11:21

If rumours are true and Derek Hatton has been allowed to region the party, then it frankly says it all and I expect gorgeous George G won't be far off

PiperPublickOccurrences · 28/09/2018 11:54

Gosh, I remember what Derek Hatton did in the 80s, he brought Liverpool to its knees.

Is the "lovely" Mr Galloway currently unemployed?

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SillySallySingsSongs · 28/09/2018 11:56

Gosh, I remember what Derek Hatton did in the 80s, he brought Liverpool to its knees.

Yep. Militant are back it seems.

Trampire · 28/09/2018 11:58

Yes, I'm old enough to remember Militant. Terrible times and ruined Labour and voters confidence in it for decades.

Bluntness100 · 28/09/2018 12:32

Yup, it seems Hatton is back in the fold. The guy who sent council workers redundancy noticed by taxi. Apparently he never thought he'd see such a hard line socialist as Corbyn at the helm and is delighted .

30 odd years after Kinnock kicked him out for making labour unelectable. And I too am old enough to remember.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2018 13:40

I think it's said that Hatton has applied to rejoin the party rather than actually been accepted - though no doubt it's a mere technicality

Surely, though, the difference between Militant Tendency in the 70s and Momentum now is that the first had little overall power and the second has rather too much

PingusPaws · 28/09/2018 14:33

This is what Jeremy did to support the victims of the Grenfell tower fire.

May would not meet them or make eye contact with them.

It's also clear she doesn't have a fucking breeze when it comes to the Brexit negotiations.

Boris and co are eating this up. They want to protect the Bankers of London.

And make it shameful to say you are 'Middle Class', support Labour and worried about you and your family in the future.

Jeremy Corbyn
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bananafish81 · 28/09/2018 15:02

OP

Yes that's great

How is that going to persuade swing voters in Tory marginals to change allegiance unless it's accompanied by strong and solid opposition and policies that will appeal to a broad church electorate?

It's because I think the Tories are dangerous that I want a Labour government in power

But it's not credible for Labour to win a majority when JC has no interest in getting the keys to number 10. He's happy on the campaigning trail and rallying as a back bencher. He doesn't want to attend the G8 and WEF at Davos as PM, at least not judging by how he's leading the party.

Bluntness100 · 28/09/2018 15:02

Yeah, I think Hatton is a technicality, he's saying he's rejoined, rhr Labour Party have said he isn't currently a member but see no reason to reject his application. So I'd guess on balance he's already a member or has been told by someone high enough up he will be.

SillySallySingsSongs · 28/09/2018 15:20

It's also clear she doesn't have a fucking breeze when it comes to the Brexit negotiations.

And Corbyn does? Don't make me laugh. If Hatton is allowed back in then that is the final nail in the coffin. Many remember him first time round. Clue, it didn't end well.

ArfArfBarf · 28/09/2018 15:35

I’m politically left of centre and never voted Conservative. But I won’t vote for a Corbyn govt. either. We need a new centrist party.

Justanotherlurker · 28/09/2018 16:10

The Tories, who farmed out the decisions made being about those who are entitled to disability payments to a private company, made an absolute fuck up things and like I said in my OP people with terminal cancer where denied payments. I would hope nobody will have to suffer that awful fate in the future.

It was labour who brought in ATOS.

Bluntness100 · 28/09/2018 16:27

It will be interesting to see the next set of polls. The reports are saying labour is losing the youth vote, remember the whole tuition fee promise fiasco, sigh.

I also would like to see a credible opposition, it's what keeps the government in check, leads to healthy debate, and balanced policies, I mean can anyone even actually recognise or name most of the shadow cabinet?

Two or three of them you hear from, like Diane Abbott, Tom McDonnell of Tom Watson, But 90% of them may as well not exist, you never see or hear of them mounting any form of opposition for their respective positions.

I suspect it's as they simply don't have the experience or knowledge base, so no ability to do so. He had so many resignations, he basically had to pick from what was left.

You've got Teresa May trying to bring home an impossible Brexit deal that the British people voted for in total and continuing ignorance, whilst every politician and their dog is trying to rugby tackle her to the ground to prevent it, Boris Johnson trying to use it for his own gain, so he can tee himself up as the next prime minister when it's done, no credible opposition in place, and the opposition leader accused of being anti Semitic and a terrorist bloody sympathiser.

It's a total and utter mess.

derxa · 28/09/2018 16:34

This is what Jeremy did to support the victims of the Grenfell tower fire. His actions were one photo opportunity after another. Theresa May is just not like that. She's a serious politician who is grappling with the most difficult set of circumstances for a long time. I'm old enough to remember the likes of Degsy.

sleep5 · 28/09/2018 16:55

I think he has a good chance of being elected. You only need to look at the large increase in big corporates buying space at the labour conference to realise that big business thinks labour have a good chance of getting in. The Tories are panicking at his popularity with youth and the under-45s with things like trains and the housing crisis. The general public are sick of cuts in the nhs and austerity in general.

Though, I'm not sure if I'll vote for Labour as he's so slippery on committing to a second Brexit referendum.

bellinisurge · 28/09/2018 17:05

He's a sneaky posing git. For balance, op.

PingusPaws · 28/09/2018 17:24

@derxa.

No, she is human first and foremost who showed no empathy for those caught up in the Grenfell Fire.

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SillySallySingsSongs · 28/09/2018 17:30

No, she is human first and foremost who showed no empathy for those caught up in the Grenfell Fire.

So if you don't have a photo opportunity hugging people then you aren't empathetic.

I agree she could have done better but photos in this context show nothing.

I'm not a 'huggy' person. I am extremely empathetic. One of the biggest public huggers I know is a massive narcissist so......

PingusPaws · 28/09/2018 17:40

@SillySallySingsSongs

It's not about that...hugs etc.
But she was leader of the Country and would not acknowledge or meet with any of the survivors of the Grenfell tower fire, it says a lot for her character.

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bananafish81 · 28/09/2018 17:52

I've no doubt he has more empathy

But empathy alone doesn't make a leader electable

A swing voter who voted for the Tories at the last GE isn't going to vote Labour just because that Corbyn chap seems to be a jolly nice bloke

derxa · 28/09/2018 18:03

A swing voter who voted for the Tories at the last GE isn't going to vote Labour just because that Corbyn chap seems to be a jolly nice bloke
I am just such a voter and I don't think that Jeremy is a 'jolly nice bloke'

bananafish81 · 28/09/2018 18:15

I am just such a voter and I don't think that Jeremy is a 'jolly nice bloke'

Neither do I, But OP does. However just because she thinks he's a jolly nice bloke doesn't mean other voters will, and even if they do, they're not going to vote for him on the basis of him giving out hugs

SillySallySingsSongs · 28/09/2018 18:16

But she was leader of the Country and would not acknowledge or meet with any of the survivors of the Grenfell tower fire, it says a lot for her character.

A lot of his past actions say a lot about his and not in a good way either.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/09/2018 19:02

If Hatton is allowed back in then that is the final nail in the coffin

Not quite - no doubt Livingstone will slime his way back too Hmm

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