Crying at home because police made me realise I am not English

[MillyAndFriends]

I am an intelligent, educated, powerful woman who loved UK. It is the only place where hindus and muslims engage on an equal footing ( I say this because when I was in Bangladesh my gran would not visit her muslim neighbours but that is the norm) I loved the UK, but today I cried.

I am worthless, I am nobody, I don't matter...I am ASIAN, I am BLACK.
Despite paying my taxes and contributing to society I am SHIT, I am worthless, I am nothing (Gandhi fought to make us equal but he failed.....)

I was stood waiting outside a club, I had ordered a cab and I was going to wait outside for my Addision Lee.
I am 7 1/2 stome (obviously a fat arse)
On a pavement in London ( where people must obviously be smaller than me)
When I was asked to move away from the club because I was blocking the way

Oops being 7 1/2 stone I took up all the space

Despite explaining that I was waiting for a cab, I was asked to move to the corner of the road.

I explained that I was waiting for a cab.
The chap became stroppy stating I should go (not very nicely).
As I had explained to him the cab was coming to the place.
He got cross.
Trying to use my brain (why did I bother!) I explained that legally I was entitled to stand where I was ( I couldn't understand what was going on..I didn't like the way he had spoken to me,,,I even explained how much I had spent in the club when the person was being silly- £300+!)

They the THREATENED TO CALL THE POLICE

i SAID GO ON THEN ...Really I thought the POLICE have better things to do!!! Don't they???

In the meantime someone was taking a film....I don't know why..

The police turned up, and I stupidly thought they would listen

They didn't ...I was in the wrong

For some reason someone who was 7 1/2 stone was preventing people walking past the pavement. Due to this, people were crossing on to the road, and I was causing a nuisance.
I asked the police men, are you taking the Micheal and they said NO! I even said " listen to what you are saying re: someone who is 7 1/2 stone (okay I said 6) who is taking up ALL of the pavement....

I am so sorry because I am unable to articulate how SHIT they made me feel.
Bullied, Bullied, Bullied RACIST SHITS.
I AM NOT that time of person to make such comments but I HATE YOU for making me say this.
Even when I rationised with them and explained I have friends who are policemen and I understood the challenges they were going through they were horrible.

I even said to them, do you really want to do this.
Even when they threatened to arrest me, I asked why what is the basis (I spouted some meaningless shit..re: human rights I learnt from uni, and even explained I have a friend who is a policeman, and that I understood their concern)

Shit, shit, shit,
(an idiot was filiming me but I am not sure why as I was rationalised - me thinks)

Best thing was that this lady from the club came out and I explained that you don't own the pavement, I was just waiting for my addision lee. She suggested it would be nice if I stood at the corner and I asked why?

I defended myself,

Why can't I wait on that pavement, you don't own it ...the police didn't agree with me ( I am repeating myself I know because this is SHIT and I am upset!)

And now I am crying, I thought I was English. I even defended England to a Scottish man tonight

I have described the above very nicely but all I know is thanks to tonight I'm NOT English, and I don't want my family to go through the RACIST shit I had to go through to night (the above is a very polite version of stuff...but I cried all the way home when I realised some SHIT ARSE has made be lose my Identity, and that the police who I THOUGT stood up for you would do...

But now I have to accept what my dad said to me, you may think your English BUT don't forget you're BROWN.
Thank you for proving my dad right!

Taken on board your comments I have posted this blog adventuresofmillyfriends.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/to-be-taken-seriously-you-have-to-be.html

Never again will I make myself vulnerable, thank you all for making me see the light!

Milly - just to give you a friendly heads-up, I believe only Mumsnet blogs are allowed to be promoted on this part of the forum (there's a note at the top of the page about it). If you click on Report next to the post where you mention your blog, then you cansend a message to Mumsnet HQ saying you've aciidentally broken the rules and I'm sure they'll be happy to amend it. :)

I absolutely agree the attitudes you mention are still an issue in some parts of the world Sara but do you seriously think it was the likely explanation in this case? I think you are being remarkably generous and open-minded (and a bit naive) if you do!

It sounds like an open and shut case of 'slightly drunk and arsey woman deciding to play the race card' if you ask me.

Actually I have only just realised that the OP says she has raised a formal complaint of racism with the police. Unless she can come up with something a bit more concrete and damning to 'articulate herself' when she wakes up and gets a few alka-seltzers down her, then I do hope she has the good sense to drop this and go away quietly. FFS - does a police officer really need this kind of crap, not to mention the waste of public funds and police time on a pointless investigation.

And I seriously hope that under the circumstances if she asks for this thread to be pulled that MNHQ refuses point blank. If she is tempted to add a bit of meat to her story to make it stand up then this thread might be all that stands between a PO losing his career and not.

Yes, there are racist, nasty POs out there who should not be in the job. We know that. But this kind of nonsense helps no-one weed them out. Jeez.

If you are asked to do something that you don't necessarily want to do, and you are asked to do that by someone who is not the same colour as you, please don't assume that it's a race thing.

Racism comes from those who see it in all aspects of life. Racism comes from the person who shouts because they've been in a sticky situation as a result of their behaviour and they use their own colour as a reason for them getting into a spot of bother for that behaviour.

Sometimes, you can be yelled at or shouted at - I may call you a twit or you may call me a dunce. Nothing in that is because of race. It's because you're a twit.

Unless they specifically used racist words and behaviour (which would have been filmed so you could use it in court), please don't use words like "racism" because all you are doing is exasperating a situation that worldwide is really an issue. But that you just use as a throw away term because someone said something you don't like.

You should read up on South Africa. Every single time there are any issues with the government or anyone raising valid questions, someone shouts "racism". It's a small minded way to point the accusation at someone else and away from yourself.

wot maths said

but sorry you feel so upset anyway

I am actually starting to feel quite incensed at this now.

IIRC, there is no legal right to stand on a pubic highway, just to be allowed to move along it. I suspect you being drunk was more the issue.

Drinking/ not drinking is not about being taken seriously. It's about judgment.

Let's look at the facts-

• Bouncer asked you not to loiter outside the club (prob because it's a condition of their license not to allow this, or to allow patrons to block the pavement). If people were crossing into the road to go around you, ask why.
• You start giving him verbal
• Police show up. You start spouting "I know my rights" bollocks at him from your law degree, interspersed with "some of my best friends are policemen"
• Someone films it on their phone (prob because scene is now quite amusing)

You'll laugh about this tomorrow.

No judgement from me btw. I have no high ground to take.

In the middle of the night I thought this was sort of funny. It's really not. I sincerely hope you drop your complaint, the police have far better ways to spend their time and resources than on bullshit like this, imo.

I've just looked at the blog. Instead of going to bed and sleeping it all off she's been up half the night tweeting Boris Johnson to demand her taxes back as she doesn't want to support a racist regime, and saying she's renouncing 'English' citizenship.

Okaaaay then.

I think the lesson we can all take from this is that when completely pissed it's best to stay away from social media for a bit.

Yes, Hully.

I deliberately stay away from FB updates when drunk becaue I know i'll say something that I think is hilarious and witty at the time.......

I'm white and the exact same thing has happened to me, in my case the doorman physically moved me onto the road by twisting my arm (wasn't drunk, was driving that night) was just waiting for some friends.

Oh dear me.
I hope OP has a couple of nurofens at the ready...

ooh, I was trying not to comment but I have to say... Maybe if you'd moved along a little bit, or stood the other side of the road you could still have got the taxi whilst complying with their request.

I weigh under 8 stone but know I can get very a bit bolshy when I've had some drinks - at the time I feel really reasonable.

I'm sorry it was a bad end to your night, but I can imagine the same scenario happening if you were white.

I think bouncers have to deal with a lot of drunken knobs and they might mistake you for one and be a bit heavy handed.

Being pushed twice by a policeman when all you were doing is talking to them, if that is what happened (not calling you a liar, but sometimes our perception of events can be a bit off) is unacceptable.

It would be interesting to watch the film back...there was a lot of emotion in the way you recalled events, the cold facts of what happened could maybe be interpreted in different ways.

I think you might just have to chalk this one up to experience. fwiw I don't feel the police were racist, but if you feel they were unnecessarily violent towards you that is a different issue. (It does seem odd that this wasn't in your op though and you only mentioned it later, your original complaint was about racism )

if any youtube footage is found, link please!

Erm, I've not really looked at a blog before..... are they all like that?

No.

I am so sorry I didn't realise I had broken the rules. Thank you for raising this with me. I will email them straight away. I am so sorry.

Yes, I bet you will.

Oh dear. Can someone explain to me the racism in the OP's situation?

I don't see it.

Can someone explain to me the racism in the OP's situation?

In a word, no.

So there isn't any, Hilly? I'm sorry I haven't read all the posts....I'm just at a loss to see the problem wrt racism.

That is why I am going teetotal so when I say something happened people believe me.

I never play the race card or sex card, and the reason I am upset is because for the first time I was made to feel asian (which sounds stupid given I am - I've just been really naive that's all)
The best way to describe it is, just because someone doesn't make a sexist remark doesn't mean that they can't still make you feel as if they haven't behaved in that manner.
I don't want to abuse this link any further as it appears that it is against mums net rules.