Ooh. I have to say, I have seen bullying on here. But I've never seen it go unchallenged.

Oh for goodness sake. And they have contacted the Beat Bullying people as well.

Yes, saw that at the weekend.

I think that if there is/was a big problem with bullies on MN then we would all know about it. There are sometimes threads where posters are unfair and cruel, but most times they are challenged by other posters.

As to the suggestion by bloggers who are not even members of Mumsnet that MN should have moderators - thank you so much for your suggestions but the majority of the Mumsnet posters quite like the way the website is currently run. If you wish to become members and try to change things, then knock yourselves out.

I quite resent the fact that there are people who are not even members of the board trying to tell us, and MNHQ how the site should be changed.

Curiouser and curiouser... 20something is now on there moaning about this other person who is apparently stomping all over the internetz pretending to be her and causing trouble... maybe it wasn't actually her that got banned from other fora?

I would just like to add that I have received several anonymous PMs referencing this thread over the last few days, several of which warned me about 20something mum and her previous behaviour.

I can't leave a comment on Alison Perry's blog (because her blog doesn't work with my browser ha! perhaps a little look at accessibility may be in order?)

What I want to say in defence of MN is that: yes- we may be argumentative, and we do not suffer fools gladly BUT we keep it on thread, and don't spread gossip and bitch about it all over other social media (in the main, there have been the occasional twitter/fb fallout situation but few and far between).

I am torn between ing at people anonymously trolling 20SM's blog and being horrified- really- rise above it people!

What I have noticed from observing all this is that some people are really insidious, and I have watched certain people keep raking the coals, and stirring up typecast once she was happy to move on from the situation.

Also- for the fifty thousandth time- it is not acceptable to call people cunts on MN! MNHQ deleted all those posts rapidly... I am a little weary of all the bleating elsewhere about 'oh- how awful, they call each other cunts'. NO we don't- it isn't tolerated here any more than anywhere else.

[rant over]

Good post, Cpt.

For the record, I had a look at 20smthmums blog last week but have not looked since and would never post a comment anonymously. If I have something to say, I will say it under my own pseudonym, and this is the only one I use online.

I would not and have never made rude remarks on anyone's blog, or even comment elsewhere on a spat unfolding here. Mainly because I am an adult with a busy life! I can keep up with a thread here but taking it to a load of other sites ... no way. What is the link above? Am curious but CBA to click.

And really - anti-bullying charities are being dragged into this? Sorry but that really seems strange. This thread only went on as long as it did because the flames were deliberately fanned by all the publicity given on Twitter etc by those now crying 'bully'.

I have seen a lot of bullying and I really don't think that's what has been going on here. The count-em-on-one hand namecalling posts were more irritable than cruel, and in any case were deleted swiftly.

And it looks like I've had one deleted, too. For the record, I did not call names and can't recall anything delete-worthy about it. I think I pointed out that one visiting person was being more consistently rude than anyone else on the thread - perhaps she reported it

When I say I've seen a lot of bullying, I don't mean here, btw.

I would also just like to say that I would never comment on any blog anonymously. I would use my pseudonymn though, not my real name.

Had a look at 20somethingmums blog post about the impostor. I thought it was one of you guys messing around, but it was not particularly funny which did confuse me. Normally if someone namechanges for that kind of nonsense, they post silly/amusing stuff.

How horrible for her to have someone causing trouble like that. Glad to see that MNHQ have been quick to act. What kind of person does that? It seems so unnecessary and plain dumb.

20somethingmum
If you do check back on this thread, I don't believe this is a MNetter trying to cause trouble for you. I know we have had our differences over the course of this thread but this is way beyond even a heated argument. This is cruel and mean and kind of creepy.

I've been following this thread on and off but not the blogs


Ultimately am on Team MN here. Think the cry of bullying and the outrage at the crossed out cunt was hysterical

But am coming out of lurking on this thread mode to comment on Cap Nancy's last post.

People on MN do call each other cunts
It might get deleted but (a) that's only if it's actually reported and (b) it's downright untrue to say it's not tolerated here any more than anywhere else

For a start, the word cunt just isn't allowed on other sites
Here it is used quite regularly - do a search and you'll find just under 500 posts with the word cunt in, many of them where posters are calling each other posts in jest (it's actually very funny reading)

As for MN not bringing feuds onto twitter - come on

MN people may not bully someone on twitter but they do mention the feud on twitter, is this not also fuelling the fire in some way?

I subscribe to a certain MN blogger's twitter feed. She made a generic comment about people getting uptight about this, and then she posted to an old blog post of hers about a time in the past when a famous blogger got her knickers in a twist about MNers. She absolutely wasn't bulling anyone though, she isn't like that of course, but she was commenting on it, as was other people. And frankly, i don't see anything wrong with that really, unless you are going to imply that MNers rarely bring MN stuff onto twitter

You are right, Mme. It is cruel and creepy, and very, very weird. I am embarrassed that I initially though it was a bit amusing.



I'm sorry some one is causing trouble for you 20somethingmum. I hope you are able together to the bottom of it soon.

I do think the link of the "Notanothermum" something something blog was quite amusing.

It reminds me of a child (spoilt and ill-disciplined) complaining to an adult who has said;

"Yes, ok, run along and stop telling tales"...and she's run away to gain support from elsewhere random people on Twitter. It's a very simple concept, if you hate the way this forum is run, go to NetMums where they often tell each other how wonderful they are, and use glitter and "fluff"; tbh, I doubt they even know what the word cunt means...plus they're regulated so I doubt you'll be told to quieten down when you become rather obtuse and irritating.

You can then bask in your self proclaimed greatness.

Yeah, that was crap. Think the OP was, at very best, a bit naive to make her entrance the way she did, but then it died down and in true MN style moved on to Shakespearean Chickens (how's the pun coming on CHNE?). It's crap that it started up again, whoever it was - not clever, not funny.

Slugger is right of course, we do carry our discussions onto Twitter and viceversa.

Sometimes because we wish for support, sometimes because we find something amusing or shocking, sometimes just for the hell of it.

I have linked to a thread where I felt that the OP was getting an unfair reception, simply because I know that many of those who follow me share (some of) my views. We tend to surround ourselves with those who do so, why would I follow people who I violently disagree with.

It is a dangerous game though, as it gives the impression that everyone agrees with your postings. When it is simply that your "online" friends agree, the odd dissenter will post but most just cannot be bothered. I have read a few of the MN-is-shit posts going around but haven't commented cause I cannot be bothered starting arguing again. Doesn't mean that I agree, but I have argument-fatigue.

I thought it was obvious that "20sometingmumUK" (without the H) was a jokey post. I did think it was funny, but then I haven't read the "real" 20 somethings blog so don't know what trouble has been caused elsewhere.

Good post, MmeL. It is hard, and doesn't always reflect well on you, to come in and argue when there is already an established posse of like-minded people on the other side of the fence to you.

obv when I say 'you' I mean as in 'one', rather than you specifically!

Jesus, is this still going on? I have been offline since Sunday as my youngest DS had a horrible accident at the beginning of the week. He's fine, broken bones heal. I spent the last 3 days on a children's ward with very worried parents of children suffering all sorts of awful conditions, and tomorrow I am going to the funeral of a friend's son - you may have heard recently in the news of the 18 year old that was stabbed through the heart in Greece. Sorry, but real life totally sucks sometimes and this petty online squabble is just utter bollocks. I am hiding this thread now, have no interest in it. Tried to help lighten it up before but if this is how it is going to continue then count me out. There are more important things in life. Going to check on my little boy now. Good luck and good night. xx

Pleb
Oh, what a horrible week you are having. I hope your little one recovers. And my condolences to you and your friend. How awful.

You are right. It is silly.

Yes, SuePurblybilt - the irony of that seems to have passed them entirely by.

As does the idea of reporting MN to Beat Bullies!

Sorry to hear about your situation, Pleb.

Pleb . You are right, this is silly. My thoughts are with your friend and I hope your DS recovers quickly.

Pleb, so sorry, hope your DS gets better soon. How awful for you.

I appreciated your (and others) attempts to lighten the mood (even if I don't share your taste in men ).

I think it is a great shame that Sue's post has been deleted. I'm guessing that it was because she named a specific poster, but the points that she was making were very valid.

Anyhoo, as they say on Dragons' Den - "I'm out"