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Both my dc bought their own houses at 23 AMA

495 replies

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 21:48

I hear a lot about this generation not getting on the property ladder and it is a big problem. I was amazed when both dc finished uni, got jobs and bought houses within 2 years of graduating.
To avoid drip feed
Yes they are mortgaged
They both bought with partners

OP posts:
Mustbeloveinthe90s · Today 10:07

Wtaaaaf · Today 09:41

It all depends on what you value and think is important.
On the kne hand, gaining that security early on is excellent and to be commended.
On the other hand, life is short and your 20s are for experimenting.

I belong to the second school and in fact continued bouncing around, messing up and living a pretty damn colourful life into my early 40s.
It put me behind asset wise. But I dont think i could have faced rooting myself the way your kids did that early. There's a lot of time to spend sitting in your house and mulling over mortgage repayments and what you'd like to do with your kitchen next. I dont think I would have been happy with the prospect of 6 long decades of that vibe.

I purchased a flat age 25 with my boyfriend, now husband. I was out every other night, lots of friends, experiences having a laugh. Took extended periods of leave went backpacking to South America and Africa for 3 weeks each time while both working. I was living my best life- not worrying about mortgage payments because our incomes meant we could afford it and it was much cheaper than rent. I lived near the city so could walk in.

Money was still tight but I prioritised it on experiences rather than clothes, tech etc. I’ve moved jobs many times and worked in different places. Much later we went onto buy two houses and have a family.

I’m not sure what your point is? I lived the exact same free lifestyle when in my 20s/30s you describe without paying astronomical rent and built my asset base. I’m on track for a very comfortable retirement lifestyle (apparently in top 7% according to the report earlier this week) so I’ll be living my best life again when I take early retirement. If I’m blessed with good health of course.

I think you can settle down young and still have a great fun-filled life.

Nogreenskittles · Today 10:07

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 22:18

dc 1
deposit 10% 13k
income 51k combined
Rotherham

dc2
deposit 10% 17k
income 52k combined
Barnsley

There you are. It’s because they live in Rotherham and Barnsley.

They’d never be able to buy in London with those tiny deposits and low combined incomes. And that’s where a lot of young people need to be for work.

Morphingirl · Today 10:12

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 22:50

Because all I’d read was first time buyers can’t get on the property ladder. Plus 15 (ish) k seemed a fortune to me . My first house was 0% deposit and my second house (four bed detached) required a 13.5 k deposit which we only afforded due to equity from previous house

They are very lucky kids - this isn't the norm . I've been renting for 4 years and have 2 jobs and I don't have a deposit at all. I also have a masters and chronic illnesses but it's the renting that causes me issues

Britainisgreat · Today 10:12

Lolamorte · Yesterday 22:25

Another reason to bloody love Yorkshire.

Left Barnsley to live in London....bought house 230k and it's worth 540k now..
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Differentforgirls · Today 10:13

Nogreenskittles · Today 10:07

There you are. It’s because they live in Rotherham and Barnsley.

They’d never be able to buy in London with those tiny deposits and low combined incomes. And that’s where a lot of young people need to be for work.

Then, as this thread shows, it’s easy for young people to buy houses unless they live in London or the SE. So it’s not a UK wide problem.

Also, there’s been people posting they would rather travel than buy a home.

Personal choice.

rainingsnoring · Today 10:18

5128gap · Today 08:33

Yes, so did mine at a similar age. They started work at 18 rather than uni, and have been ahead of the game in terms of promotions, plus the 3 years extra earnings and no debt, so were well placed financially at a time their peers were just leaving uni. They saved a lot from living at home, and starter homes round here at the time could be bought for £130k.
It's getting harder now as the same homes 4 years on are £200k. They are still being purchased by young people who have been working for some time though.
So imo if there's no parental help on offer you need to start work early, live in a cheap area and live at home and save if you want to get on the property ladder at a young age.

Living at home is most definitely parental help. Many people don't have this advantage.

Nogreenskittles · Today 10:18

Differentforgirls · Today 10:13

Then, as this thread shows, it’s easy for young people to buy houses unless they live in London or the SE. So it’s not a UK wide problem.

Also, there’s been people posting they would rather travel than buy a home.

Personal choice.

Of course its personal choice, but the thread is a bit bizarre.

theres no magic formula, or neat or extreme way her kids did this. It wasn’t through saving their entire wage.

and I’ve never got the have mortgage or go travelling dilemma- especially if you’re buying outside London. A 13k deposit gets about 2 holidays.

its usually cheaper to have a mortgage and rent.

As a young person with a mortgage, I travelled widely and let out my property

user1492757084 · Today 10:19

Good on them.
They will not be wasting money on rent so it is a great start.

Ilikeanimalsmorethanpeople · Today 10:21

Morphingirl · Today 10:12

They are very lucky kids - this isn't the norm . I've been renting for 4 years and have 2 jobs and I don't have a deposit at all. I also have a masters and chronic illnesses but it's the renting that causes me issues

Skipton 0% deposit mortgage it tracks your rent payments xx

EnoughRain · Today 10:22

Wow, those prices are so low! You’d not a get a tiny 1 bed flat for less than 250k where we are. My son (25) and his gf rent in London. They have saved a big deposit (60k) and have good incomes. They think they’re years off being able to buy. Plus, they want to travel first.

Differentforgirls · Today 10:22

Nogreenskittles · Today 10:18

Of course its personal choice, but the thread is a bit bizarre.

theres no magic formula, or neat or extreme way her kids did this. It wasn’t through saving their entire wage.

and I’ve never got the have mortgage or go travelling dilemma- especially if you’re buying outside London. A 13k deposit gets about 2 holidays.

its usually cheaper to have a mortgage and rent.

As a young person with a mortgage, I travelled widely and let out my property

My son and his fiancee bought at 23, still live there and have also travelled extensively. They're off to Australia for a month in September. Some people do both!

Nogreenskittles · Today 10:25

Differentforgirls · Today 10:22

My son and his fiancee bought at 23, still live there and have also travelled extensively. They're off to Australia for a month in September. Some people do both!

It’s also easier to do both - mortgage repayments tend to be cheaper than rent.

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 10:29

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 22:18

dc 1
deposit 10% 13k
income 51k combined
Rotherham

dc2
deposit 10% 17k
income 52k combined
Barnsley

Not many want to live in those areas though.

rainingsnoring · Today 10:29

Differentforgirls · Today 10:13

Then, as this thread shows, it’s easy for young people to buy houses unless they live in London or the SE. So it’s not a UK wide problem.

Also, there’s been people posting they would rather travel than buy a home.

Personal choice.

It's not 'easy' and it's not just London and the SE. There are plenty of other parts of the UK where house prices are unaffordable for people in their 20s without lots of family family help.

Someone posted the map below earlier which is interesting. If you set the limit at £170k, the more expensive of the two properties bought by the OP's DC, and put 2 bedrooms, there are very few green areas and limited yellow. Bearing in mind that we are talking of young, FTBs here, the situation will obviously be much worse.
www.reallymoving.com/property-market-insights-trends/home-affordability-map

5128gap · Today 10:31

rainingsnoring · Today 10:18

Living at home is most definitely parental help. Many people don't have this advantage.

True enough.

Differentforgirls · Today 10:31

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 10:29

Not many want to live in those areas though.

Except all the people who live in them...

Differentforgirls · Today 10:33

rainingsnoring · Today 10:29

It's not 'easy' and it's not just London and the SE. There are plenty of other parts of the UK where house prices are unaffordable for people in their 20s without lots of family family help.

Someone posted the map below earlier which is interesting. If you set the limit at £170k, the more expensive of the two properties bought by the OP's DC, and put 2 bedrooms, there are very few green areas and limited yellow. Bearing in mind that we are talking of young, FTBs here, the situation will obviously be much worse.
www.reallymoving.com/property-market-insights-trends/home-affordability-map

Must be my part of the UK then because my sons and their friends all bought in their 20s.

Easterchicken · Today 10:38

I'll organise them a parade to celebrate

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:39

Differentforgirls · Today 10:31

Except all the people who live in them...

Which is a tiny % of the population.

Arguably not all the people who live there, want to live there.

Differentforgirls · Today 10:42

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:39

Which is a tiny % of the population.

Arguably not all the people who live there, want to live there.

How would you know? 😂

Yetone · Today 10:45

delicioussoo · Today 09:58

wages in London aren’t 4 or 6 times higher than up north, which is what you’re looking at when it comes to property prices.

A lot of people who work in London commute in from more affordable areas.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:48

Differentforgirls · Today 10:42

How would you know? 😂

I think it would be a fair assumption about most areas for at least some of the population (especially cheaper ones as often people are priced out of their preferred area so settle for somewhere that wouldn’t be their choice but is affordable).

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:48

Yetone · Today 10:45

A lot of people who work in London commute in from more affordable areas.

Which is why commuter belt areas are also more expensive.

Differentforgirls · Today 10:49

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:48

I think it would be a fair assumption about most areas for at least some of the population (especially cheaper ones as often people are priced out of their preferred area so settle for somewhere that wouldn’t be their choice but is affordable).

Where do you think they want to live?

Yetone · Today 10:51

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:48

Which is why commuter belt areas are also more expensive.

There are some cheaper areas:
Medway
Luton