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Both my dc bought their own houses at 23 AMA

495 replies

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 21:48

I hear a lot about this generation not getting on the property ladder and it is a big problem. I was amazed when both dc finished uni, got jobs and bought houses within 2 years of graduating.
To avoid drip feed
Yes they are mortgaged
They both bought with partners

OP posts:
Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 10:54

Differentforgirls · Today 10:49

Where do you think they want to live?

That depends entirely on the individual and their work/family ties amongst other factors.

Eg someone who wants to live in Harrogate might have to settle for a cheaper area outside of Harrogate. Someone who wants to live in Richmond might have to settle for more affordable Twickenham.

You only need to watch a few episodes of location x3 to see that people compromise on their dream area to buy something they can afford.

boringperson123 · Today 10:55

Me and my sister both did at 22/23 (both in past 5 yrs) after graduating, without any family financial contribution but we lived at home and paid a small token amount of board. My brother didn’t because he chose to rent a flat after uni so he was about 26.

It honestly wasn’t a struggle at all. Most of my friends did the same around the same time frame without family help and it’s actually the more ‘working class’ friends who have managed to buy houses and the ‘better off’ friends who are renting. I assume their parents will probably just give them a deposit when they need it

2chocolateoranges · Today 11:04

delicioussoo · Today 09:58

wages in London aren’t 4 or 6 times higher than up north, which is what you’re looking at when it comes to property prices.

this is the reason why many people commute into London rather than live there.

We all have a choice where we live, just don’t live in London.

Kebab85 · Today 11:05

You really can't figure this one out? You live in the north. Try buying anything on such low incomes as that in the south and those deposits are obviously much lower than you'd need to buy in the south too so it'd take substantially longer to save up.

SuziQuinto · Today 11:06

Kebab85 · Today 11:05

You really can't figure this one out? You live in the north. Try buying anything on such low incomes as that in the south and those deposits are obviously much lower than you'd need to buy in the south too so it'd take substantially longer to save up.

Or even other parts of Yorkshire.

Differentforgirls · Today 11:06

Kebab85 · Today 11:05

You really can't figure this one out? You live in the north. Try buying anything on such low incomes as that in the south and those deposits are obviously much lower than you'd need to buy in the south too so it'd take substantially longer to save up.

I think she might have considering how many people have posted the same thing?

BillieWiper · Today 11:08

They have half a property each. Are you concerned about what will happen when they spilt up from their partners? Assuming statistically people don't usually stay with their uni bf/gf for the rest of their lives.

Imaginingdragonsagain · Today 11:13

TooMatchaMatcha · Yesterday 22:34

This sounds incredibly depressing. Settled down with pretty much their first adult partner, living in a bleak northern town, earning slightly above the minimum wage. Not a life to aspire to.

Why be so bitchy? Everyone makes different choices. Hopefully they have lovely partners, and like where they live. You sound like you’re hoping for the opposite.

Soontobe60 · Today 11:14

So many scathing comments on here.
Both my DC bought their first homes within 12 months of leaving Uni. We gifted each of them £5K which they put in LISAs, both saved ruthlessly whilst at and after Uni. Both bought cheap houses in cheap areas. Both are now on their 3rd house having upgraded and moved to better areas each time. Both did their own home improvements and went without expensive holidays, cars, clothes etc in order to fund their homes.

Thumber · Today 11:14

A friend of mine bought a VERY run down house for £450,000 where we live. It’s a 3 bed house, but really it should be called a 2 bed with a cupboard that happens to have a window in it. They’ve been doing work on it for close to 10 years now, just to make it in a liveable condition, put in heating and hot water, rebuilding bits that are falling down, and doing god knows what else. That’s the reality of buying in some parts of this country and is why I’ll never be able to buy unless I were to move up north.

joezoealfiecasperoli · Today 11:23

scoopsahoooy · Yesterday 22:27

That's ace OP. Do you think they're happy having 'settled down' so young? Now I'm older and actually on the housing ladder I obviously wish I had more of my mortgage paid off already, but my house sharing years were also a life experience - do they feel like they missed out? Have they both stayed in their original houses or moved?

The eldest still travels loads as their mortgage is pretty low. They have a fun life
younger one likes holidays but is much more of a homebody

OP posts:
Hellohelga · Today 11:30

Yes properties in many areas are more expensive than Yorkshire but that doesn’t make buying impossible. A one bed flat around here is about £300k. But there is always a cheaper compromise available for first time buyers - buy on a main road, train line, above a shop, tatty neighbourhood, further from transport links. Then trade up for your second home. It annoys me when people living in a top dollar neighbourhood complain about house prices, saying my children can’t afford to buy here. Then your children must buy where they can afford and work up to living where you live. Well done OP your children have made wise choices.

FourCheese · Today 11:35

Imaginingdragonsagain · Today 11:13

Why be so bitchy? Everyone makes different choices. Hopefully they have lovely partners, and like where they live. You sound like you’re hoping for the opposite.

Edited

Honestly this is just how people are on here.

Young people can’t buy house = problem
Young people buy house and are happy = problem

Older adults slagging off young people’s (perfectly responsible) choices

Differentforgirls · Today 11:39

FourCheese · Today 11:35

Honestly this is just how people are on here.

Young people can’t buy house = problem
Young people buy house and are happy = problem

Older adults slagging off young people’s (perfectly responsible) choices

Says more about the slaggers than the slaggees

joezoealfiecasperoli · Today 11:42

Aluna · Today 09:42

OP i don’t want to be unkind but in what way did you think this would be in any way helpful outside your corner of Yorkshire?

A 1 bed flat round my way starts at 650k. I’m not sure 17k salary is even liveable in London.

It’s very unusual to buy with a partner at that age and it makes it much harder to split up. Make sure they have a legal contract drawn up regarding who owns what including all the furniture.

There’s a lot of talk on mn and generally about it being impossible to get on the property ladder I envisaged my children living with us for years so I was surprised they achieved it in such a short time on relatively low wages . It’s not a bragg I thought it might be helpful for some people worrying their kids may never own a property

OP posts:
Cherrytree86 · Today 11:42

WoollyandSarah · Yesterday 22:23

Yeah, but they have to live in Barnsley and Rotherham.

@WoollyandSarah

SNOB

Monty36 · Today 11:42

Kebab85 · Today 11:05

You really can't figure this one out? You live in the north. Try buying anything on such low incomes as that in the south and those deposits are obviously much lower than you'd need to buy in the south too so it'd take substantially longer to save up.

They don’t really live in the North. South Yorkshire is smack bang in the middle of the country. They live in the Midlands. But prefer to call themselves Northern.
Why they are ashamed to live in the Midlands I do not know.

C8H10N4O2 · Today 11:43

rainingsnoring · Today 10:29

It's not 'easy' and it's not just London and the SE. There are plenty of other parts of the UK where house prices are unaffordable for people in their 20s without lots of family family help.

Someone posted the map below earlier which is interesting. If you set the limit at £170k, the more expensive of the two properties bought by the OP's DC, and put 2 bedrooms, there are very few green areas and limited yellow. Bearing in mind that we are talking of young, FTBs here, the situation will obviously be much worse.
www.reallymoving.com/property-market-insights-trends/home-affordability-map

Well yes if you tweak this and tweak that and pretend a starter home is a two bed house you can make the numbers look terrible.

The reality is that in most of the country young couples can get on the property ladder and the timing will be affected by choices. Live at home for a while has always been the top way to save money (and its still an option for most), travel and live large and it takes longer to save up the deposit.

A starter home is traditionally a one bed or studio usually in a less popular area. That is what most people start with. Some move to cheaper areas further out to join the ladder a few rungs up.

For the bottom third it is tough- it always has been which is why talking in terms of generations is so stupid.

Young people from affluent homes get a leg up as they have always done. Young people from poor homes find it tougher. That is the group who should be targeted for better social housing. The bulk in the middle will get onto the ladder but it will require hard choices - as it always has.

C8H10N4O2 · Today 11:46

joezoealfiecasperoli · Today 11:42

There’s a lot of talk on mn and generally about it being impossible to get on the property ladder I envisaged my children living with us for years so I was surprised they achieved it in such a short time on relatively low wages . It’s not a bragg I thought it might be helpful for some people worrying their kids may never own a property

Its also a good point to make. Its never been easy to get on the ladder for those of us who had no bank of Mum and Dad. Its not easy now. However to read MN you would think the entire millennial and younger generation were living in a cardboard box at the bottom of their parents’ garden and this is just nonsense.

As with previous generations some things are better, some are worse and when it comes to buying property people start small, move further out, live with the parents etc to save a deposit.

Of course this is also MN where any thread talking about children sharing a bedroom gets responses suggesting that sharing a room is some kind of human rights violation.

In the real world people are just cracking on with it.

Skybluepinky · Today 11:47

I assumed from the bragging post you meant London.

Differentforgirls · Today 11:48

Skybluepinky · Today 11:47

I assumed from the bragging post you meant London.

London isn't the UK.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 11:51

joezoealfiecasperoli · Today 11:42

There’s a lot of talk on mn and generally about it being impossible to get on the property ladder I envisaged my children living with us for years so I was surprised they achieved it in such a short time on relatively low wages . It’s not a bragg I thought it might be helpful for some people worrying their kids may never own a property

But why were you surprised when the house prices are so incredibly low compared to most places?

Its really not surprising at all to be able get a mortgage of £117k on a £130k house with joint income over £50k.

Commonmum · Today 11:53

joezoealfiecasperoli · Today 11:42

There’s a lot of talk on mn and generally about it being impossible to get on the property ladder I envisaged my children living with us for years so I was surprised they achieved it in such a short time on relatively low wages . It’s not a bragg I thought it might be helpful for some people worrying their kids may never own a property

so your thread is about - do not worry, your kids can still own a property if they choose to leave in some of the cheapest areas of the uk.
However the majority of people live in the south and London, where wages are not much more than in the north and it is impossible to buy a flat without help.
thats why you hear/read a lot about it.

you should not be surprised your kids could do it, it does not mean everybody can or we would all move up north.

Rewis · Today 11:55

Good for them. Why the hell not if you have a permanent job, can split expenses and houses are affordable. Quite a few of my friends who are from up north got lovely new builds soon after graduation.

SuziQuinto · Today 11:59

I'm not sure why it's an AMA? I'm not having a go, I'm just wondering what questions you're expecting?
I think if you're able to live in Barnsley, Rotherham or similar, you do have the opportunity to buy a cheap property, and that's great if you can.