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Both my dc bought their own houses at 23 AMA

512 replies

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 21:48

I hear a lot about this generation not getting on the property ladder and it is a big problem. I was amazed when both dc finished uni, got jobs and bought houses within 2 years of graduating.
To avoid drip feed
Yes they are mortgaged
They both bought with partners

OP posts:
Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 09:25

Katypp · Today 09:22

So you buy a less than perfect house in a not so good area. Then upgrade later.
Not being able to afford the perfect house as a ftb is not a new phenomena

I agree with you in principle but you know even the crappiest 1 bed flats in less desirable areas are out of reach in London and the south east? Ftb can’t all move to Rotherham.

tommyhoundmum · Today 09:25

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 09:14

Yes and these days you can get most things for free or practically free on freecycle/fb marketplace etc.

When we bought our first house in the early 00s we had no money for furniture but were given most things we needed second hand by various people who were upgrading/changing their furniture.

Trouble now is young people want the instagram lifestyle and won’t make do temporarily.

Edited

Yes, it's lovely that people can give working appliances etc to people just starting out. When I was starting out there were no freebie sites and no one had anything to give away.

IsItSnowing · Today 09:30

It's good to see your children are doing well. It's a lot easier in the North and in the East of the country where you can get a nice house for under £200k. In our area a 2 bed semi costs around £350k and we are still an hour from London on the commuter line. It makes it very difficult for a lot of young people to buy.
I did worry that mine would never be able to afford to move out but they are both now home owners and settled. Didn't happen at 23 though.

Mustbeloveinthe90s · Today 09:31

OMG so many rude people on this thread, grilling OP like she’s lying or being disingenuous while she’s just sharing her family experience. Attacking young adults for low salaries when that’s normal- they could be on the first rung of a lucrative career ladder for all they know!

Oh and Barnsley and Rotherham are full of great architecture, culture- that area is rich in stately homes and areas of outstanding natural beauty. It’s got great transport links to big cities. So you’re WRONG. I live in the South East. I’m a southerner but I recognise what a lovely region Yorkshire is to live in

Ignore the vipers OP!

labamba007 · Today 09:37

TooMatchaMatcha · Yesterday 22:34

This sounds incredibly depressing. Settled down with pretty much their first adult partner, living in a bleak northern town, earning slightly above the minimum wage. Not a life to aspire to.

How I started out and my life turned out great!

Yetone · Today 09:39

I did find this thread interesting.
If our grandparents and parents had wanted to not settle down straight away, travel. live in a flat ( instead staying at home or HMO ) before buying and live in an expensive area then they would have not been able to save up and buy house first either.

C8H10N4O2 · Today 09:40

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 09:22

It’s not even “some”, it’s most - 66% of the population live in the south or the midlands.

Three of my young end millennial DC got themselves on the property ladder in their 20s in the SE. The fourth lives abroad.

Our young graduates in the South and Midlands get onto the property ladder - in the Midlands they buy houses rather than flats.

They don’t live in the fanciest areas, or the fanciest properties and they accept commuting as part of the deal but its not the case that it is impossible. Some save by living at home for the first year or two of working - just as 20 somethings did when I was in my 20s.

KookyHen · Today 09:41

It’s commendable that both of your children are sensible enough to save steadily and invest in their futures by buying now. However, this was only one factor in them being able to achieve this in their early 20s. The other crucial factors were:

• having partners to share costs
• low rent post-graduation, as opposed to high private rent (and the fact their partners also benefited in this way)
• low-cost areas

You seem very out of touch with the realities of the housing market. A “nice” two-bed starter home where I am is £210k minimum.
You mentioned that your four-bed detached house is now worth £250k? The same here would be £350k - £400k, or perhaps even more, depending on area. I am aware prices become even more astronomical the further South you go.

Not knocking your children at all for having achieved home ownership. But not sure what the point of your post was? It’s not hard to see how they managed it? And how others of the same age, working just as hard, and being just as sensible, don’t 🤷‍♀️

(BTW, not an angry, jealous parent here - my child is 5. Keeping fingers crossed the country is not such a s*show when she comes of age🤞)

Wtaaaaf · Today 09:41

It all depends on what you value and think is important.
On the kne hand, gaining that security early on is excellent and to be commended.
On the other hand, life is short and your 20s are for experimenting.

I belong to the second school and in fact continued bouncing around, messing up and living a pretty damn colourful life into my early 40s.
It put me behind asset wise. But I dont think i could have faced rooting myself the way your kids did that early. There's a lot of time to spend sitting in your house and mulling over mortgage repayments and what you'd like to do with your kitchen next. I dont think I would have been happy with the prospect of 6 long decades of that vibe.

Aluna · Today 09:42

OP i don’t want to be unkind but in what way did you think this would be in any way helpful outside your corner of Yorkshire?

A 1 bed flat round my way starts at 650k. I’m not sure 17k salary is even liveable in London.

It’s very unusual to buy with a partner at that age and it makes it much harder to split up. Make sure they have a legal contract drawn up regarding who owns what including all the furniture.

labamba007 · Today 09:43

mindutopia · Today 08:55

When I was 23, I lived somewhere where the absolute cheapest shittiest flat would cost you £300k. I earned about £25k a year (no partner). My rent was £1000 pcm. I was was just managing to feed myself with some family help! But I needed to live where I lived for work opportunities. There was no chance of saving for a deposit at that age and there was no partner to purchase with. And Lord, I would not have wanted to buy with anyone I wasn’t married to anyway!

But this didn’t stop me saving and buying a beautiful house. I bought my first house at 40. For £800k, with a bit of inheritance and 10 years of savings, Dh and I had a deposit of £300k. We are in a very secure financial situation, will be mortgage free by 50 (within 10 years of buying). And we have a huge house with several acres.

It was absolutely the right thing to not saddle myself with a mortgage in my early 20s in a relationship I wasn’t committed to. I was out partying and getting a postgraduate degree and travelling and working abroad in my 20s and it was great.

And I got to the point I have with a house (in similar situation to you just without the inheritance) by doing it the way OPs children have - while still enjoying my 20s. There isn’t one way to do things.

Rocknrollstar · Today 09:44

You’ve answered everyone’s questions. Rotherham and Barnsley? Where we live in London you need to be earning £65000 to buy a property on your own. Flats are £500000 plus in our area.

C8H10N4O2 · Today 09:46

KookyHen · Today 09:41

It’s commendable that both of your children are sensible enough to save steadily and invest in their futures by buying now. However, this was only one factor in them being able to achieve this in their early 20s. The other crucial factors were:

• having partners to share costs
• low rent post-graduation, as opposed to high private rent (and the fact their partners also benefited in this way)
• low-cost areas

You seem very out of touch with the realities of the housing market. A “nice” two-bed starter home where I am is £210k minimum.
You mentioned that your four-bed detached house is now worth £250k? The same here would be £350k - £400k, or perhaps even more, depending on area. I am aware prices become even more astronomical the further South you go.

Not knocking your children at all for having achieved home ownership. But not sure what the point of your post was? It’s not hard to see how they managed it? And how others of the same age, working just as hard, and being just as sensible, don’t 🤷‍♀️

(BTW, not an angry, jealous parent here - my child is 5. Keeping fingers crossed the country is not such a s*show when she comes of age🤞)

When did a two bed house become a “starter home”? The classic starter used to be one bed flats or even a studio flat in a cheaper area. I didn’t know anyone who started out in a house unless they had family money.

2chocolateoranges · Today 09:46

Just read this thread and it’s just shown some peoples true colours.

young people can’t win, they don’t work, they get slated, they live off the bank of mum and dad, they get slated, they work hard and they save money and buy a house and get slated.

people should should realise that everyone is different, all have different ambitions and for anyone to be able to buy their own home no matter what area it’s in is an achievement!

we have just had our eldest buy a flat and the housing market across the UK is ridiculous, house prices are high and houses are going for way over the home report, meaning our young people need to have a lot of savings.

the majority of people on this site are parents and should act better rather than coming across condescending and bitter. Be kind.

Yetone · Today 09:46

Wtaaaaf · Today 09:41

It all depends on what you value and think is important.
On the kne hand, gaining that security early on is excellent and to be commended.
On the other hand, life is short and your 20s are for experimenting.

I belong to the second school and in fact continued bouncing around, messing up and living a pretty damn colourful life into my early 40s.
It put me behind asset wise. But I dont think i could have faced rooting myself the way your kids did that early. There's a lot of time to spend sitting in your house and mulling over mortgage repayments and what you'd like to do with your kitchen next. I dont think I would have been happy with the prospect of 6 long decades of that vibe.

That is entirely your choice. There are many people who like to have ‘fun’ when they are in their 20s. Just don’t complain how easy it was for previous generations to get on the property ladder.

2chocolateoranges · Today 09:50

Rocknrollstar · Today 09:44

You’ve answered everyone’s questions. Rotherham and Barnsley? Where we live in London you need to be earning £65000 to buy a property on your own. Flats are £500000 plus in our area.

But then again London wages are higher so obviously cost of living is higher.

My ds could earn 25-30k per annum more in his career if he moved to London, so we would expect house prices to be much more expensive there.

Monty36 · Today 09:51

Well people do buy houses all over the UK. I think it is the degree of difficulty to do so that can be an issue.
A job in the public sector is likely to pay much the same all over the country. So quids in if you live in the North. Work in London, or the West of England hard cheese.
The availability or pool of housing may differ too. Much of the areas outside London are commuter belt. Three bed semi’s. Fewer terraced options.
And the closer to the Capital the higher the price of property. The higher the cost of the land it sits on. Ditto some parts of the West too.
Yes people are buying houses but it is not at all easy for some to do.
I admire the saving ethic. Excellent.

Malinia · Today 09:51

Stressmummy12 · Yesterday 22:55

Can I ask what the point is in this thread

None.

The children had partners so a whole other income accessible to them plus they all had heavily subsided living costs (just £200 for rent and food for two people) while earning a combined income of £50k. And they bought very cheap property. It would be more surprising if they hadn't managed to save up and buy somewhere with all those advantages.

Monty36 · Today 09:52

Malinia · Today 09:51

None.

The children had partners so a whole other income accessible to them plus they all had heavily subsided living costs (just £200 for rent and food for two people) while earning a combined income of £50k. And they bought very cheap property. It would be more surprising if they hadn't managed to save up and buy somewhere with all those advantages.

Perhaps it is an anti southern thread. Or anti anywhere but the North thread.
Except South Yorkshire is really in the middle of the country. Although they will dislike that being said !

FourCheese · Today 09:53

Wtaaaaf · Today 09:41

It all depends on what you value and think is important.
On the kne hand, gaining that security early on is excellent and to be commended.
On the other hand, life is short and your 20s are for experimenting.

I belong to the second school and in fact continued bouncing around, messing up and living a pretty damn colourful life into my early 40s.
It put me behind asset wise. But I dont think i could have faced rooting myself the way your kids did that early. There's a lot of time to spend sitting in your house and mulling over mortgage repayments and what you'd like to do with your kitchen next. I dont think I would have been happy with the prospect of 6 long decades of that vibe.

I think I’m the opposite, I need stability before Im interested in excitement.

Whosthetabbynow · Today 09:54

joezoealfiecasperoli · Yesterday 22:18

dc 1
deposit 10% 13k
income 51k combined
Rotherham

dc2
deposit 10% 17k
income 52k combined
Barnsley

Barnsley? Come back to us when they’ve bought a place where I live in South London.

delicioussoo · Today 09:58

2chocolateoranges · Today 09:50

But then again London wages are higher so obviously cost of living is higher.

My ds could earn 25-30k per annum more in his career if he moved to London, so we would expect house prices to be much more expensive there.

wages in London aren’t 4 or 6 times higher than up north, which is what you’re looking at when it comes to property prices.

Ilikeanimalsmorethanpeople · Today 10:00

Bunny44 · Yesterday 23:36

Yes you don't get 0% deposits since a long time ago.

I bought my first house 13 years ago aged 25 with a partner. My half of the deposit was £50k on a house a bit over £400k in London. My parents helped me with £20k of that but the rest was savings - I'd been working since 14 (part time) and paying my own rent since 21. My partner at the time was older but had no family help. Both of us earned around £40-50k each if I remember rightly.

I'm now a single mum at 38 but I have £450k in equity in my house and savings. Apart from the £20k my parents first gave me the rest is entirely my own - I have always had well paid jobs though. I've never had help from anyone else or my child's father. Don't even get CMS. I think buying young is a good thing to do as it sets you up well for life if you can. I always saw renting as a waste and tried to keep it as cheap as possible so I could save.

Edited

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Monty36 · Today 10:02

delicioussoo · Today 09:58

wages in London aren’t 4 or 6 times higher than up north, which is what you’re looking at when it comes to property prices.

Indeed. No they are not.
You will find some extremes. But generally speaking they are not which is why so many people commute in from outside London for work.

Jellox · Today 10:04

Differentforgirls · Today 07:32

I don't know why they're sneering tbh. More fool them for living in a place they can't afford a house in.

Some people are just desperate to ‘keep up with the Jones’s’.

It’s all about appearances to them, which is a sign of insecurity.