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Stuck in Rhodes

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TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 08:47

I was just east of Gennadi, 5 minutes away, at Atlantica Dreams resort (Tui). All day yesterday there was a steady stream of evacuated guests from other hotels arriving.
The fire seemed to die down at around 3pm. But by 7 it was raging again.
We were told one of us needed to stay up all night to listen gif the evacuation siren.
There were hundreds of evacuees there by then.
Just before 10pm we were evacuated. We walked to the road where there was a coach and some cattle trucks. It was chaos and hard not to be separated from my DCs (23, 19, 17 & 17). We had no idea where we were going. I had to calm and keep company 2 distraught children (circa 14 and 8) who had got separated from their parents. I lost a shoe and one DC their phone. We had to jettison the one small cabin size suitcase we had brought our essentials in.
Our truck broke down and we walked about a mile, again not knowing where we were going, and were eventually directed onto Gennadi beach. There were around 2000 people there all crammed together. Small boats, capacity around 10, went back and forth between ferry boats and the shore. There was no Dunkirk spirit. People were tired, upset and frightened. Some had not slept for 2 nights.

It took 4 hours until we finally managed to get on one at around 2. It was bedlam with everyone shoving and barging. I was separated from the DCs several times. Nobody knew where we were going.

We were on the ferry around 4 hours before arriving in Rhodes Town at c6.30am. We sailed through ash clouds and people had towels tied round their faces. People were taken off in different buses. We ended up in a school with 150 others. But there was nothing there for us, no beds, mats, washing facilities or food and it was boiling hot.
There was no list so the authorities have no idea who has gone where. It is a total lie for Tui to say they have re accommodated everyone. They have not. They have no idea where I am and until their phone lines open I cannot contact them either. The only info we have been given is an FCO number for advice on travel and consular assistance (which we don't need).
Luckily I have 24 hour insurance access and when I'd re charged my phone was able to establish I am covered (was worried it would be an "act of God"). I have booked a hotel for 1 night, after a long search. I've just arrived - it's chaos with everyone sleeping on the floor.
Just before we left the school a band of volunteers arrived laden with food and one of them thinks our hotel may have been burned down and we are unlikely to get back to try to retrieve our stuff. She says Gennadi is mostly gone.

We leave on Wednesday. We can't check in here til 2 and need to go and buy clothes and essentials. All we have is what we are standing in.

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Mutinyonthecrunchie · 23/07/2023 18:44

Awful as it is for holiday makers, at least they will be able to leave. The locals on the other hand are stuck with it, their lives, homes and livihoods are going up in smoke literally.

Newshoess · 23/07/2023 18:47

Moodflump · 23/07/2023 09:16

When did you fly out? Were you not concerned by the numerous reports in the media about the adverse weather, and although the fires weren't until Wednesday did you not consider cancelling or moving it? What are you expecting people to do?

I'm assuming you don't travel and venture out much. You can't just cancel holidays unless there is a Government warning and the holiday company email you with options. People will loose thousands of pounds!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/07/2023 18:48

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 18:39

You have missed out on so much.

This thread isn't the place but it's been derailed so let me just say this - there are people who don't care about the climate and will never care no matter how much you preach at them. Then there are those who never fail to seize the opportunity to virtue signal and lecture people. Newsflash guys your preaching is never going to win you friends or influence people.

Then there's the rest of us doing our bit in our own way without shouting about it. Nothing will stop me using my tumble dryer but I am literally anal about recycling. I drive but not a gas guzzler (and there are plenty of older non-hybrid suvs!!) I have children - well let's face it, we will need them to support an ageing population in the future. My garden is a sanctuary for birds, bees and other insects.

The world I grew up in was far more eco-friendly. Your milk was in bottles which you returned. You didn't get handed a ream of plastic bags, you carried your own reuseable ones. Your fruit and veg if you had a bag for it, was paper. Yada yada yada. Cloth nappies.

And after all that - this tragedy is nothing to do with climate change. It seems it was arson so all your posturing and preaching is utterly irrelevant. So take your stupid arguments somewhere that people want to argue with you, and leave the rest of us to follow the OP's fascinating first hand account of the terrible situation in Rhodes!

It being arson (if it was- it’s not uncommon with big fires for people to seize on a supposed culprit who is later quietly exonerated) doesn’t mean it’s nothing to do with the weather ffs. It’s about the warm dry conditions allowing it to spread fast.

oi0Y0io · 23/07/2023 18:49

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Pinkitydrinkity · 23/07/2023 18:54

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 17:05

The whole thing is way more complex than some of the self-styled eco warriors would have us believe.

It's like, a hypothetical example, today's temperature is the highest in x location since 1973.

Now, to me, a simple soul, that implies that the temperature was just as high on an occasion 50 years ago. As for natural disasters - they have always been a feature of life on earth. Just musing!

The confusion is awful though and exactly what shouldn't be happening. The airlines/travel companies should have clear plans in place. It's not as if it was a totally unpredictable event is it?

@TooTrusting I wish there was something people could do to help. Might some clothing shops have opened up because there must be so many people needing to buy stuff?

I do know what you mean with this but if you look at the numbers, although the last highest recorded temp could be say 1985, most of the next highest temps tend to be in the last 5/10 years. That means we are seeing higher temperatures/more extreme weather more regularly which is the really bad thing.

letthemalldoone · 23/07/2023 18:56

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/07/2023 18:48

It being arson (if it was- it’s not uncommon with big fires for people to seize on a supposed culprit who is later quietly exonerated) doesn’t mean it’s nothing to do with the weather ffs. It’s about the warm dry conditions allowing it to spread fast.

And Rhodes is normally cool with no wind then? FFS!

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Ducksurprise · 23/07/2023 18:59

Mutinyonthecrunchie · 23/07/2023 18:44

Awful as it is for holiday makers, at least they will be able to leave. The locals on the other hand are stuck with it, their lives, homes and livihoods are going up in smoke literally.

This isnt really aimed at you but the endless posters that make out holidaymakers are unreasonable for being upset at the situation.
It isn't a race to the bottom, you could say at least the locals have homes to lose, so many live in tents, or the fact that they are part of a European country so will get help it goes on.

Yes of course the people whose actual full time lives have been affected are going to suffer the most and for the longest but being evacuated is terrifying.

Stravaig · 23/07/2023 19:01

Some people on this thread badly need to read The Minstry for The Future, by Kim Stanley Robinson. Better yet, everyone, everywhere.

TooTrusting · 23/07/2023 19:03

Ducksurprise · 23/07/2023 18:41

Firstly I'm sorry you are going through this, and thank you for helping the children that got stranded. That once happened to me and I'm eternally grateful to the family that tried to calm their fears.

Secondly, and as this is AMA I'm asking, if you had booked a hire car do you think you would have been able to drive away safely?

No I was told the police had closed the roads. And I would have been too scared.

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Personal attack?

Ducksurprise · 23/07/2023 19:11

Thanks @TooTrusting I thought as much .

Hope you manage to calm the adrenaline and get some rest

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Thank you!
Urggh reddit!
I agree that the thread is interesting😇

AnotherMalbecPlease · 23/07/2023 19:12

My son and his family have just got back home - it sounds like it was horrendous there -they stayed overnight in the airport - travelled back with very little - 2 were still in their swimwear but at least they are safe - said the locals were great

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EasterIssland · 23/07/2023 19:44

Easyjet os going to fly people home @TooTrusting

moreninfo here
https://twitter.com/easyJet/status/1683175053129572352

https://twitter.com/easyJet/status/1683175053129572352

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 19:53

Tessisme · 23/07/2023 16:12

Glad you're safe @H202020. The locals sound absolutely wonderful. It must have been very alarming and worrying for them too. Restores your faith in human nature.

Gosh yes, I just assumed the locals would laugh off a catastrophic fire and loss of livelihoods and possessions. But luckily they will probably be off on their hols soon, to get away from it all.

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Fallenangelofthenorth · 23/07/2023 20:02

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 19:53

Gosh yes, I just assumed the locals would laugh off a catastrophic fire and loss of livelihoods and possessions. But luckily they will probably be off on their hols soon, to get away from it all.

What are you on about?

Twitter is full of praise for the locals who gave a lot of their time to rescue people, distribute food and water and accommodate people. Are you saying people are wrong to express gratitude?

What is wrong with this place?

winterchills · 23/07/2023 20:06

Sounds so so awful!!

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 20:08

Fallenangelofthenorth · 23/07/2023 20:02

What are you on about?

Twitter is full of praise for the locals who gave a lot of their time to rescue people, distribute food and water and accommodate people. Are you saying people are wrong to express gratitude?

What is wrong with this place?

Woosh. Over your head….

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 20:11

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 20:08

Woosh. Over your head….

The point being, it is a lot more than alarming and worrying to have your livelihood destroyed. It is a catastrophe. Op and her fellow trippers will be home soon, but the islands inhabitants will suffer for years to come. Note: sarcasm is the lowest form of wit; noted.

Fallenangelofthenorth · 23/07/2023 20:15

Sirius3030 · 23/07/2023 20:11

The point being, it is a lot more than alarming and worrying to have your livelihood destroyed. It is a catastrophe. Op and her fellow trippers will be home soon, but the islands inhabitants will suffer for years to come. Note: sarcasm is the lowest form of wit; noted.

Not one single person has trivialised how this has affected the local population. No, it did not go over my head. You're a regular poster of nasty, sarky comments.