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I'm a trans man and local trans activist, AMA

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Sideris · 05/01/2020 07:10

Hi there, folks.

As the title says, I'm here to respond to questions in good nature.

For a bit of background information, I'm 30 years old, a trans activist out of necessity (being the first 'out' trans person in numerous spaces, which didn't have any rules or regulations before, but have since been commended for ease of process by some new trans members or trans members who have been referred by me), have been 'passing' for about three years, now.

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Doyoumind · 05/01/2020 13:27

OP is not from the UK or in the UK so I don't know why they are talking about GPs etc as if they are.

HollowTalk · 05/01/2020 13:32

OP, you say, violence against trans men is considerably high

Trans women would also say that violence against them is high.

Violence against men is high.

Violence against women is high.

Yet in virtually all instances, this violence is caused by men. Why is it, do you think, OP, that women are those coming under the greatest fire in the trans issue?

Cwenthryth · 05/01/2020 13:33

Oh sorry I thought OP was in the UK but didn’t have English as a first language hence using foreign terms like Pap smear and 3rd grade. Perhaps you could clarify, OP, as this is a UK based forum so the majority of users assume a UK bias in discussions. It would be really shocking for a UK NHS GP to make this change as a result of an individual campaigning without any other input, but perhaps you’re operating in a different healthcare system.

Findumdum1 · 05/01/2020 13:36

Also, Im sorry, but "dressing part-time bas a man at 10" is one of the most ludicrous statements i have head on one of these threads and seems a very shaky foundation to base your entire identity on. Do you think its still the 1800s when little girls had to wear dresses every day? Are all the little girls out there part time dressing as men on the days they wear trousers and a top, even if it's sparkly and has unicorns on it, or what about when they wear tunics and leggings, a very common look nowadays? Are my young relatives who exclusively wear old dresses as tops with leggings or even trousers to save money/use them up destined to be men because their mother is on a budget? And what about me, I hate dresses and skirts and never wear them because a) I dont like my legs and b) I find that men use them to further oppress/put down women in the workplace. Does that mean I should transition? Even though I have experienced, in age order, sexual harrasment, pmt, more sexual harassment, periods, sexual discrimination, pregnancy, childbirth, post childbirth injuries, more sexual discrimination and more sexual harassment. I'm going to demand my pay rise and back pay on Monday.

MoltoAgitato · 05/01/2020 13:36

Somewhat of a paradox, isn’t it? Apparently trans women have been using female facilities for years. And I haven’t yet met a trans woman who passes. So where are all these trans women who pass? Or is that the point, to gaslight into thinking that they pass so well that actually the shouty women have been over reacting again?

I don’t care how well you pass - no natal males in female spaces. Stop destroying the rights cold others based on your own demands.

And yes, bad behaviour should be tackled no matter what the perpetrators identify as. But it’s a tad convenient to go down that route, when doing so removes the protection of an entire protected class for the benefit of the class doing the vast majority of the rapes and murders.

noblegiraffe · 05/01/2020 13:37

I’m trying really hard to understand this.

If you were never a biological woman but always a trans man, and that goes for all trans men, (and the male student who was never actually a male student) then what about the people who change their mind?

So a trans man (and there are some) who went through top and bottom surgery, so they were really committed to the idea that they were trans, who then realises it was a mistake and they’re actually a woman: were they always a biological woman and never a trans man?

And if so, at what point do you know someone is actually a trans man and not a biological woman who thinks they are a trans man?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/01/2020 13:38

I think you are right, @fuckitywhy.

Bluebutterfly90 · 05/01/2020 13:43

Hi OP, I'm not someone who follows this whole thing very closely, but I did want to ask:

Do you think everyone has a 'gender identity'?

Personally I don't think everyone does. I view it like religion: a strong belief that some people hold but not everyone, and it would be absurd to insist that everyone has a religion, but I do see people saying everyone has a gender identity.
I really dont think I do. I don't identify as anything. I don't agree to the stereotype that comes with 'woman', I just exist as female or 'a person with a womb', and I think a lot of people feel that way.

Trying to choose my words carefully because people get very upset by this sort of thing.

Doyoumind · 05/01/2020 13:44

This thread screams of one started for screen grabs.

WellErrr · 05/01/2020 13:45

I’m white but this very moment am self identifying as a black woman so your assumption is totally wrong about who is on this thread.

OP what do you think of this? Is race a construct? Can you identify in or out? If not why not?

Helmetbymidnight · 05/01/2020 13:55

what is it that makes you a man op? you must be able to put it in words after all this time.

In terms of the deciding factor for my GP, the sex indicated on all of my official records

ah this is interesting op. so all those years you felt like a man, you werent, but the official records made you a man? so people without records are clearly not men (ie those who self-id) and you yourself wouldnt be a man without those records?

hmm. im surprised.

so your answer to what is a man is 'official records'?? again, that doesn't really answer it, does it to you, seriously?

DeeZastris · 05/01/2020 13:59

It’s a religion. If you aren’t a believer none of it makes any sense. That’s why they are so keen to teach it in schools - like all religions over the globe - make sure they are brainwashed from an early age they’ll be a follower for life.

SophoclesTheFox · 05/01/2020 13:59

Hi sideris, you asked for th information about the poor scientific basis for the IOC rules on testosterone and natal males in women’s sport.

You’re not going to like the source, I can tell you that now Grin

fairplayforwomen.com/emma_hilton/

There is a transcript, please enjoy and let me know what you think.

I am honestly really saddened that you’ve had a hysterectomy so young. I also did, For different reasons of course and at quite a lot older than you. It has triggered in me a number of auto immune conditions that significantly impair my life. This is very common, due to the abrupt plunge into the menopause. I wonder if anyone made you aware of that beforehand, and if you would have considered that a price you were willing to pay?

I can’t work out if you had your records changed because you do or you don’t want called for a smear because you do or you don’t still have a cervix? It’s not even a simple as that, as depending on the reason for the hyst, a woman who has had a hysterectomy including the cervix May still need a smear on the vaginal vault. So a big slow hand clap to you for further muddying the waters there. If I don’t have a cervix any longer, do I get dispensation from being called a cervix haver now? Do I get to be just a woman?

SonEtLumiere · 05/01/2020 14:07

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howdisappointing · 05/01/2020 14:10

I've read quite a lot of thia thread and frankly I've got a bit bored of OPs inability to form a cohesive point of view. For someone banging on about how sex and gender are not important, they clearly actually see it all as the most important thing if they can only function if they are able to disguise their actual biological sex. If sex and gender were unimportant to them, they'd be cracking on with life regardless of how other people viewed them.

Cwenthryth · 05/01/2020 14:12

Very good insight and questions, SonEtLumiere, can you please respond to that post, OP? It would help us a lot in understanding what you’re saying.

QueenOfTheFae · 05/01/2020 14:13

So, if you dont want to be called for a smear test because you're now a man, do you want to be called in for a testicular cancer check? (If they have those)

Canadianpancake · 05/01/2020 14:20

AMA appears to be AMA as long as you fundamentally agree with me, otherwise I'll flounce.

midgebabe · 05/01/2020 14:25

So why can you appreciate the blue sky when other people see you as Male but you can't appreciate the blue sky when other people see you as female?

Why does other peoples opinions about you /your biological sex matter to you so much that it takes away your happiness?

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 05/01/2020 14:25

AMA appears to be AMA as long as you fundamentally agree with me, otherwise I'll flounce.

As ever with this belief system Hmm

Helmetbymidnight · 05/01/2020 14:30

For someone banging on about how sex and gender are not important, they clearly actually see it all as the most important thing if they can only function if they are able to disguise their actual biological sex.

Weird, right!

PlanDeRaccordement · 05/01/2020 14:31

I’m really trying to understand what made OP realise they/he are trans.

The OP has said both sex and gender are constructs which they/he reject. That gender stereotypes are meaningless to determine if you are a man or a woman.

If both sex and gender are constructs and rejected, then surely deciding you are a man or a woman is the opposite of rejecting sex and gender? You are literally buying into and affirming these construct by self identifying as a man and then conforming your body and mannerisms to match.

Rejecting sex and gender, I would think would lead to the logical conclusion you are simply a human being. In that case, there is no reason to change your body by hormones or surgery from woman to man. Because it’s all variations on being human.

So maybe the question is for someone who has rejected both sex and gender as constructs, why did you decide to transition? Did your body simply not match your sense of self as a human? Was it more to erase visible sex characteristics, to become essentially androgynous? Do you feel forced to have said you are a trans man to get those body modifications because society isn’t ready for the idea of humans with no visible sex or gender?
I’m speculating here. But my logical mind is having a does not compute moment.

mummmy2017 · 05/01/2020 14:36

But you can't change your DNA, if in 100 years your body was dug up and your DNA was taken you would be classed as female.

FagAsh · 05/01/2020 14:36

@Sideris
You are really coming across as obtuse, poorly informed and unable to answer your questions!

You're still a woman BTW

Thatagain · 05/01/2020 14:53

Maybe op found it hard work being a woman (which it can be) or he just didn't have the bulls for it. Who knows ?