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I'm a hijab wearing Muslim woman, ask me anything!

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hijabijabi · 12/07/2018 19:03

Happy to answer all questions, but most comfortable with questions about my experiences - I can try to answer questions about Islam but am no expert, and other Muslims may hold different opinions.
I'll only be checking the thread intermittenty, so my answers might not be immediate.

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GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 16:24

Also could you please explain why if that is the case, the Sharia law courts in most countries only count female testimony as worth half of male testimony? And why in some countries they don't allow women to testify at all?

www.unicef.org/gender/files/Qatar-Gender-Eqaulity-Profile-2011.pdf

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_Islamic_law_by_country

I find a comprehensive outline from sources such as UNICEF like this rather more convincing than a random YouTube video, perhaps you should look into them too.

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 16:53

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Aswad · 17/07/2018 17:15

@gorgonlondon
How utterly disgusting for an ignorant white British woman to blindly champion a system

I can't find any evidence of the OP doing such a thing.
You seem to have spent a significant amount of your day on this
What would make you happy?
Do you think you'll somehow convince the OP and other Muslim women to give up their religion?! I dont think anything will satisfy you. You'll continue to pick and choose what you please to justify hounding the poor woman.
Honestly, go run yourself a bath, have a nice cup of tea and maybe take up a few hobbies.
You sound very angry and bitter

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 17:27

aswad

Why don't you try to engage with the content of the posts that you object to, rather than trying and failing to demolish the personal qualities of those who posted them?

I cba to report your post but fyi personal attacks are against talk guidelines (as well as being a dead giveaway that you have nothing of substance to add).

Aswad · 17/07/2018 17:40

Oh my goodness you've reported me? Noooooo

Aswad · 17/07/2018 17:43

Trying to engage in any sort of dialogue with the likes of you would be completely worthless and very very draining.
I can only imagine you have a list of websites saved on your computer. When someone has rebuked one thing you'll pull out something else.
I'd rather watch paint dry then try and reason with you Wink

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 17:46

I see your reading skills are as strong as your debating skills aswad. I said I couldn't be bothered to report your post, and indeed I haven't.

I found all of those websites on my phone while cooking my kids' dinner. Sorry to disappoint you with your odd fantasies about my nonexistent list, but some of us can multitask, read, research and type fairly quickly.

Given that you've not been able to engage with a single point raised though, I assume this doesn't apply to you. Soz.

flashnaaz · 17/07/2018 17:58

This thread has turned nasty. Some ppl clearly have an axe to grind and need to take a chill pill.

Aswad · 17/07/2018 18:03

Clearly I don't spend as much time on line as you do so not as familiar with your acronyms
Clearly you must be very talented to have spent the majority of your day on here whilst being able to multi task. So why don't you run along and find something more useful to do with your time.
OP I commend you, I don't know how you're able to maintain such composure when dealing with these pests.
I don't want to hijack your thread by having a back and forth conversation with whats her name. Apologies OP

QuackPorridgeBacon · 17/07/2018 18:12

Aswad Why so petty and childish? You can engage without name calling and being silly... “what’s her name” I mean come on now, you can see her name written.

GorgonLondon · 17/07/2018 18:27

@Aswad I asked you to engage with the substance of my posts and to refrain from personal attacks. Unfortunately you've continued to make unpleasant personal attacks so I have now reported and won't engage with you again. The standard of discussion was quite high on this thread..what a shame when people set out to derail and turn it into a spiteful attack.

Aswad · 17/07/2018 18:37

@gorgonlondon
What personal attacks?!!
Please report away. The standard was certainly NOT high if anything you and your friends hijacked it a long time ago. The post started off with people genuinely wanting to learn. You clearly had a very different agenda so please don't try and fool us into thinking otherwise. Again please report away

flashnaaz · 17/07/2018 18:43

This thread stinks.

hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 20:00

The links I provided were to indicate that prevalent interpretations may be wrong. The YouTube clip is of a well respected Islamic scholar with no political agenda.
I agree that women in Muslim counties face oppression - but I also know that many want to solve those problems without rejecting Islam. And I believe whole heartedly that this can be done.
I have many friends who have grown up in Muslim countries where women face oppression. They are grateful for progress and working towards further changes in the position of women, but they are also extremely committed to their faith.
I think they would be amused at the thought that I am colluding in their oppression.
My husbands family are very rural and traditional. The older women over 40 are illiterate but policy has changed now.and they are happy that the younger women have the opportunity to get a good education. I remember an interesting evening where they were asking all sorts of questions about women's lives in the UK. They felt really sorry for us! They certainly wouldn't swap places. The situation really isn't black and white.

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Clionba · 17/07/2018 20:12

Why do they feel sorry for us in the UK?

hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 20:39

The idea of being a working mother without having extra help at home, especially as we don't tend to live in extended families which spreads the workload, and the general business of life. They also found it sad that women don't cover their bodies and heads, as they see this as a sign of dignity and women being highly valued. I said to them that UK women feel sorry for them for having to cover up, and they were quite confused about this.
I'm not saying all Muslim women feel like this. But I wanted to illustrate that some of the women you seem to want to liberate may not want to be liberated.

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BartholinsSister · 17/07/2018 21:43

Are angels real?

DayManChampionOfTheSun · 17/07/2018 22:00

Op thank you for being so open on this thread. I think you have responded with great dignity on this thread.

WhatThePuck · 17/07/2018 22:05

Hijabi

Do you think it may be the case that the older women are conditioned to not even know that there is a choice to be had (whether they are allowed to or want to is a different matter).

Although I honestly do believe that Islam (and other religions too) view men and women very differently, I also think not just men are conditioned (and brainwashed and not given an alternative) to treat women as inferior to them but that women also support this idea by passing it to the next generation.

Rainsim
“I expect my child to wear a hat when it's snowing but I don't force it. “

Do you not feel that in many cases ‘expectation’ is aligned with disappointment, pressure, acceptance....I could go on.
It’s not the same as wearing a hat in the cold. The result is that your child could catch a cold.
By not wearing a hijab there is no direct result. You may argue that it may for example displease Allah but isn’t that for each individual to be accept.
I really believe There are very few things you can mentally make someone believe. If your daughter was wearing a hijab because you expected them to that that says more about you than their belief in religion.

Clionba · 17/07/2018 22:13

I feel sorry for people that have never had the independence of earning their own money, or denied the status of a profession. I can't imagine a life where you can't walk out and feel a breeze through your hair, or the sunshine on your neck. I don't want to "liberate" people, but I will continue to challenge things.

DieAntword · 17/07/2018 22:16

WhatThePuck how would you feel if your child decided to go outside without anything on their lower half - ie trousers, shorts, skirt, pants - anything at all?

If it would be anything besides gleeful acceptance then do tell how that’s different than the hijab situation?

hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 23:00

dayman thank you

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hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 23:02

whathepuck I understand where you are coming from, but it seems a bit like the brainwashing argument, and ultimately a good excuse not to value another woman's point of view. We are all conditioned by the society we will in.it doesn't make our views invalid.

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hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 23:06

clionba the rural women I know consider themselves to be farmers. They are highly skilled despite being illiterate. I also know female engineers, doctors, teachers and academics from these countries. They are also hijab wearing Muslims with strong faith.

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hijabijabi · 17/07/2018 23:08

Bartholins yes.

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