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A Man in a dress- how would you feel?

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Wooopdiedoo · 16/10/2026 12:30

I'm fairly new here and have only read through a couple of posts, but I wanted to ask a question.

How would you feel if a man you knew wanted to wear "Female" (heavy on the quotation marks) clothing?

I'm specifically talking about a male whose only intention is to wear the dress because they like the dress, nothing else — no statement, no 'changing' of pronouns or wanting to be treated or referred to in any particular way, no mockery, no discussion or intention of 'becoming' a woman (again, quote unquote, not saying it's possible).

Would you genuinely be okay with this, say if your husband/friend/ colleague wearing a dress out in public? Would you have any thoughts or feelings about it, and would these affect what you say to them or how you would act?

I'm not sure how I would respond, honestly, and I know that's probably (definitely) due to my internalisation of 'gendered' norms (by that I man sex based). I think I my knee jerk reaction might be to feel inclined that its somehow not right or looks silly, before reminding myself that its just a piece of fabric and if someone likes what they like on their body, thats kindof the end of it.

On the other hand, I definitely wouldn't have the same reaction to seeing women in any clothing, and my response would always be neutral to positive.

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user293948849167 · 16/10/2026 15:46

I wouldn’t be that bothered tbh, unless it was sexualised clothing not appropriate to the occasion.
I wouldn’t be too keen on my DH doing it however as I would find it very unattractive in a sexual partner.

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/10/2026 15:47

Waitingfordoggo · 16/10/2026 15:43

@Shortshriftandlethal , you’ve just reminded me that I saw a teenage lad in Brighton wearing a skirt recently. Obviously seeing men wearing women’s clothes isn’t at all unusual in Brighton, but what was more unusual about this was that he didn’t seem to be trying to look like or pass as a woman. He had on a skirt, but everything else about his presentation was masculine or neutral. So, stereotypically male hairstyle, shoes, top and jacket, not wearing make up etc. I quite admired that because it seemed artistic rather than fetishistic.

Yes, just a young man showboating and daring to be a little bit subversive - but without excessive ego or performance attached.

Damiano David ( formerly of Maneskin) regularly wore make up and 'feminine' coded clothing but always came across as incredibly masculine at the same time ( ...and very sexy.....)

Velvetgoldmine · 16/10/2026 15:47

I love a man in a dress - it takes guts and individuality to go out like that, think David Bowie vibes, creative and fearless.

Forester1 · 16/10/2026 15:51

I remember seeing a Ben Fogle programme a while back and he stayed with a guy who lived in an alternative community in the states. The majority of the time he wore men’s clothes but occasionally wore women’s clothes. He explained that’d he’d had a difficult childhood and wearing these clothes were a comfort / link back to his mum. But he didn’t seem that he ever considered himself to be a woman etc so I thought it was fine.

But I’d also have an issue if it was my DH!

brownbootsandhats · 16/10/2026 15:53

It’s sad really that it’s a thing - that clothes are so restrictive

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/10/2026 15:55

Forgetting the arty types who get away with it I would imagine that in the current climate a man who wanted to start dressing in women’s clothes would be dipping a toe in the water. I would assume he would then go on to adopt the rest of the ideology in time.

Wooopdiedoo · 16/10/2026 15:56

CostcoFanofThree · 16/10/2026 15:42

a man wearing a dress IS a statement depending on the dress a fairly major one (exception here for kilts).
a woman wearing a men’s suit (not a feminine version) is equally a statement.
btw I call BS on being new, only read a few posts etc. MN is very well known for GC views especially in the FS&G section.

I mean I got that there’s a strong gender critical view on here, but why would that mean I’m lying about being new😅
I’m not trying to catch anyone saying anything or whatever people are thinking, I’m not arguing with anyone, I’m not challenging gender critical views (which I basically agree with ) I’m just trying to hear perspectives and understand (mostly my own thoughts)

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Monty36 · 16/10/2026 15:58

Not bother me at all.

SillyPiccalilli · 16/10/2026 16:03

At my old job the guy I used to sit next to wore skirts and blouses and carried a handbag. He was lovely, and good at his job.

I didn't have any particular feelings about the way he chose to dress, aside from mild surprise at first.

lovemelongtime · 16/10/2026 16:06

Grayson Perry springs to mind and much as I love his art, his programmes, I just think he looks a bit "wrong" when he wears a dress. Like you, I accept it's his choice but that's how I feel

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/10/2026 16:06

It’s just natural suspicion- if you haven’t been here long you probably wouldn’t appreciate the amount of abuse we get here including posters turning up just to try and get people banned or to prove how transphobic mumsnet is. It really is a problem so don’t take the scepticism personally. You haven’t done anything wrong but many of the troll posts start with apparent innocence!

CostcoFanofThree · 16/10/2026 16:07

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Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 16/10/2026 16:07

Wooopdiedoo · 16/10/2026 12:30

I'm fairly new here and have only read through a couple of posts, but I wanted to ask a question.

How would you feel if a man you knew wanted to wear "Female" (heavy on the quotation marks) clothing?

I'm specifically talking about a male whose only intention is to wear the dress because they like the dress, nothing else — no statement, no 'changing' of pronouns or wanting to be treated or referred to in any particular way, no mockery, no discussion or intention of 'becoming' a woman (again, quote unquote, not saying it's possible).

Would you genuinely be okay with this, say if your husband/friend/ colleague wearing a dress out in public? Would you have any thoughts or feelings about it, and would these affect what you say to them or how you would act?

I'm not sure how I would respond, honestly, and I know that's probably (definitely) due to my internalisation of 'gendered' norms (by that I man sex based). I think I my knee jerk reaction might be to feel inclined that its somehow not right or looks silly, before reminding myself that its just a piece of fabric and if someone likes what they like on their body, thats kindof the end of it.

On the other hand, I definitely wouldn't have the same reaction to seeing women in any clothing, and my response would always be neutral to positive.

While I suspect you're angling at internalised misogyny because gender non conforming men in presentation are a no no but women aren't even in these gender critical parts of the world the fact that many here are only comfortable if the female coded attire isn't sexualised/overly feminine points to something else. And that something is still internalised misogyny but as it to pertains to feminine aesthetic expression. I would put my house on most of these same people are 'uncomfortable' with females expressing overt sexuality in presentation as well.

The demeaning of feminine expression AKA femmephobia has a long history rooted in the systemic devaluation of traits, behaviours and aesthetics associated with women and femininity. Historically, patriarchal structures have positioned masculinity as the universal human standard leaving femininity to be viewed as inferior, superficial, or manipulative.

Describing feminine traits, behaviours and aesthetics as purely an indoctrinated 'stereotype' or a sexual perversion is simply another form of femmephobia which is regularly expressed on this forum.

That they can't conceive of an inclination towards feminine expression being just a simple innate preference no different to preferring vanilla ice cream to chocolate rather than some pathology ought to tell you something.

Soontobe60 · 16/10/2026 16:08

Wooopdiedoo · 16/10/2026 12:48

Can I ask why? Couldn’t they just genuinely like how it looks and feels and want to wear it because of this, and it have nothing to do with ‘fettish’ at all?

I love seeing a man in a kilt, would think nothing about a priest in his robes or a Muslim man wearing a shalwar kameez, dishdasha or djelabba. That’s because those are items of clothing that are made for males. It’s disingenuous to say people can wear whatever they feel comfortable in and their sex shouldn’t come into it, because we do wear clothes for particular sexes generally. Women wear trousers in many forms now, but those trousers are designed for the female form which is different than the male form. My DH and I are wearing almost identical outfits today, because our items are unisex.
If a man decided that he was going to wear a dress made for a woman he would be making a point, because it’s occupied that men in many societies don’t wear dresses. We used to call those men transvestites but we’re not allowed to do that now because of ‘progress’. Transvestitism has a sexual motivation.

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/10/2026 16:08

There is a picture of Grayson Perry wearing a skirt and a black codpiece to a children’s charity event. I am never accepting that as a reasonable choice. Keep the fetish away from others please.

brownbootsandhats · 16/10/2026 16:10

But calling a dress a “feminine expression “
is only that within the boundaries of current western society

it’s a pity men can’t be allowed to wear dresses. Without it being seen as expression of fenininity

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/10/2026 16:13

Well it might be a pity but that is where we are at present. A man putting on a dress is a statement. If a man just wanted to wear something that feels different there are robes and kilts which are definitely for men.

CostcoFanofThree · 16/10/2026 16:19

@brownbootsandhats why? Why is it a pity that males can’t wear dresses?
There are many versions of male appropriate loose dress like options?
Why the pity that they are ostracized for wearing certain types of dress style associated with women?

ginasevern · 16/10/2026 16:21

If he didn't want to be called a woman and if he didn't want to invade women's spaces/sports/first prize for literature or whatever then in theory I'd be fine with it. But I still couldn't help but think it was a fetish. Grayson Perry noted in interview that 80% of men in dresses are doing so for arousal, including him. So given that I don't trust men any further than I can throw them when it comes to purely innocent motivation, that would be my instinct.

brownbootsandhats · 16/10/2026 16:23

Why should there be male appropriate clothing that excludes ( some styles of ) dresses?

why should we put artificial sex restrictions on people ? Surely the only things where sex should matter are things where sex actually matters

anything else is stereotypes and gender caging

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 16/10/2026 16:23

ginasevern · 16/10/2026 16:21

If he didn't want to be called a woman and if he didn't want to invade women's spaces/sports/first prize for literature or whatever then in theory I'd be fine with it. But I still couldn't help but think it was a fetish. Grayson Perry noted in interview that 80% of men in dresses are doing so for arousal, including him. So given that I don't trust men any further than I can throw them when it comes to purely innocent motivation, that would be my instinct.

And does Grayson have any evidence of this other than attempting to normalise himself?

CostcoFanofThree · 16/10/2026 16:25

who the fuck pity’s men? they can pretty much do whatever they want when ever they want.
wear a dress do as they please but don’t expect me to not spot mental ill health.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 16/10/2026 16:25

I'd definitely regard it as a sexual fetish and I'd seek a divorce.

brownbootsandhats · 16/10/2026 16:27

No men can’t do whatever they want
clearly they can’t just wear a dresses because they like the feel of them
patriarchy does put expectations on them too

and if they want to wear a dress why not?

I will also pity a man who is a victim of assault. Or is in a car crash. Or has an allergic reaction to nuts. My pity allocation is not restricted to one sex only

CostcoFanofThree · 16/10/2026 16:29

Legally a man can wear a dress and some do there is zero stopping them.

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