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"We" can always tell

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PollyNomial · 14/10/2026 20:07

Except when "we" can't:
https://x.com/CountDeadWomen/status/2110284296388739454

Note the weasel words of the thread don't actually apologise for allowing terrible people to decide the victim wasn't female because she wasn't sufficiently meeting a stereotypical view of how women should look in their bigoted opinions. The fault for behaving in a bigoted fashion is only that of the bigots and no-one else.

OP posts:
Shortshriftandlethal · 15/10/2026 08:13

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

Because at least one poster from here shared the post here to get people to go and harass the victim.

I've not even seen or been aware of this thread. Where is it?

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:13

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 08:10

Jesus Christ. Someone genuinely thinks it's reasonable to shut down an entire site of women's conversions about a malicious social movement that seeks to undefine us politically, legally and socially because one post was written about a mistake that had also lead some other people, somewhere else, to act like shits.

One cannot help but wonder why they are so much more exercised by the one post here than the creeds of misogynist bile on reddit and other places leading to young men developing deeply disturbing attitudes and behaviour towards women.

One might, indeed, think it's not about that one post at all, but simply another excuse to carry on an existing vendetta.

I dont think all conversations need to be shut down, I think MN need to rethink what it allows to stand and what users it allows to stay.

I have to go to work now. I'll be back this afternoon.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 08:13

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

Because at least one poster from here shared the post here to get people to go and harass the victim.

That is a wild accusation. You should be reported but I'm letting it stand to show just how far gone you are. You have lost all proportion on this subject.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/10/2026 08:15

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:13

I dont think all conversations need to be shut down, I think MN need to rethink what it allows to stand and what users it allows to stay.

I have to go to work now. I'll be back this afternoon.

MN has always been very thorough in its moderation and years ago many people were banned. This was before the concept of free speech and a right to hold certain views was affirmed in law, though posts are still frequently removed when they really do infringe the rules.

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:16

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

The fact they started it shows what type of place this has become.

It's a bit like if someone shows up to your party with all the equipment to shoot up. At some point, you've given the impression that you're okay with recreational heroin to someone in attendance and you might want to rethink how you present yourself.

An Open Forum that anyone can join?

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:16

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:13

I dont think all conversations need to be shut down, I think MN need to rethink what it allows to stand and what users it allows to stay.

I have to go to work now. I'll be back this afternoon.

But they DIDN'T ALLOW IT TO STAND?

Right? Because it was deleted?

2021x · 15/10/2026 08:17

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:11

They should ban them. Of course. This isnt about who thinks what or who is right about trans people.

In summary your thoughts are;

"Note the weasel words of the thread don't actually apologise for allowing terrible people to decide the victim wasn't female because she wasn't sufficiently meeting a stereotypical view of how women should look in their bigoted opinions. The fault for behaving in a bigoted fashion is only that of the bigots and no-one else."

About a situation on X, which was corrected and apologised for.

You then claim that because there was a thread on MN, the family suffered harassment.

When it is pointed out that MN have nothing to do with that behaviour, you switch to saying MN should be more responsible.

You say you have engaged and haven't seen a response.

It turns out that the thread on MN had very little engagement and was also removed.

So what is your reason for starting this thread?

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/10/2026 08:18

This is not a club that people can join, as such. It has long been the main, often only, place where people could discuss a subject that is deeply important to them. That is why there is a general consensus on key issues related to it. Beyond that - it is a free and open forum and I, for example, are not responsibile for what other people post - only for my own content.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 08:19

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

The fact they started it shows what type of place this has become.

It's a bit like if someone shows up to your party with all the equipment to shoot up. At some point, you've given the impression that you're okay with recreational heroin to someone in attendance and you might want to rethink how you present yourself.

Or they have no idea of what is and isn’t acceptable.

Soontobe60 · 15/10/2026 08:19

alcovecupboards · 14/10/2026 20:27

The account was attacked by GC people because they believed the murdered woman was trans. Members on this board shared it to amplify the attacks. They didn't care about this woman - they just saw a trans person being murdered and decided it was fair game. The fact that she wasn't trans didn't matter to them - she wasn't sufficiently feminine enough for their liking. The hypocrisy is vile.

How do you know they were ‘GC’? Are you just presuming?

Soontobe60 · 15/10/2026 08:22

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 07:54

That MN rethink whether they want to be a hub for behaviour that includes going off site to harass the family of a murder victim and write awful posts about the victim herself because they think she is trans.

Luckily that’s not what happened here. I’m amazed you’re positing on such a den of vipers; forum!

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:22

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 08:19

Or they have no idea of what is and isn’t acceptable.

We know full well people start threads on here for spurious reasons, and as it was deleted possibly nobody knows who started it let alone why.

Fortuity · 15/10/2026 08:23

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/10/2026 08:15

MN has always been very thorough in its moderation and years ago many people were banned. This was before the concept of free speech and a right to hold certain views was affirmed in law, though posts are still frequently removed when they really do infringe the rules.

The concept of free speech and the right to hold view was affirmed in law a long, long time before MN was even set up.

Coatsoff42 · 15/10/2026 08:23

wow, some social media stories are not posted here quick enough, others are posted too quickly. It’s hard to keep up. What would be the correct time frame? Clarity would be appreciated, not just nagging and complaining.

2021x · 15/10/2026 08:24

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:22

We know full well people start threads on here for spurious reasons, and as it was deleted possibly nobody knows who started it let alone why.

Woudl you concur that it is entirely possible that

a) the original "transinvestigation" was started by TRAs on X

b) any harassment was stoked up by TRAs on X towards the family.

c) the MN post this poster is talking about was actually posted by the lovely OP of this thread.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 08:24

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

Because at least one poster from here shared the post here to get people to go and harass the victim.

Well that’s projection.

I saw the post, you didn’t.

Beowulfa · 15/10/2026 08:25

Let me summarise: it's all women's fault, most particularly the women who post on FWR. And it's always women's fault, and JK Rowling made us all do it?

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 08:27

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:22

We know full well people start threads on here for spurious reasons, and as it was deleted possibly nobody knows who started it let alone why.

I saw it. It was someone who had posted before. Yes, I looked because it seemed goady. Not a particularly familiar name, but no reason to think it was a TRA. Just a dickhead. All groups have them.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 08:30

This should go without saying, but given the people out there and indeed on this thread who take utter delight in finding any way to narrate events to malign gebder critical feminists:

The people who harassed the victim's family because they thought the victim was trans were behaving like shits. The fact in this case the victim wasn't trans isn't the reason it's shitty behaviour, it was shitty behaviour all along.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 08:30

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:13

I dont think all conversations need to be shut down, I think MN need to rethink what it allows to stand and what users it allows to stay.

I have to go to work now. I'll be back this afternoon.

It wasn’t allowed to stand, so the system works.

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 08:31

2021x · 15/10/2026 08:24

Woudl you concur that it is entirely possible that

a) the original "transinvestigation" was started by TRAs on X

b) any harassment was stoked up by TRAs on X towards the family.

c) the MN post this poster is talking about was actually posted by the lovely OP of this thread.

Indeedaroonie.

Icedvanillacoffee · 15/10/2026 08:33

Omg Ive just gone onto the counting dead women twitter account to try to work out what this thread is about, I dont think im easily shocked, but I was aghast at the number of women being murdered by men. I have read the statistics before and I am aware of what femicide means, but reading each account is simply something else.
The repetition , the constant presence of hatred of women often by men who are apparently close intimate partners. The sheer level of violence, Im not a religious person really but that twitter feed to me seems to be evidence of actual evil. This thread is focused on the wrong point about this issue.

DialSquare · 15/10/2026 08:34

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

Because at least one poster from here shared the post here to get people to go and harass the victim.

No, not at least one. It was only one. I saw it when it was first posted and the first post was a regular on this board saying it was a horrible thread and should be taken down. I personally didn’t recognise the OP as a regular so can’t comment on their motivation.
So why are you making accusations based on the OP rather than the first reply?

2021x · 15/10/2026 08:35

Icedvanillacoffee · 15/10/2026 08:33

Omg Ive just gone onto the counting dead women twitter account to try to work out what this thread is about, I dont think im easily shocked, but I was aghast at the number of women being murdered by men. I have read the statistics before and I am aware of what femicide means, but reading each account is simply something else.
The repetition , the constant presence of hatred of women often by men who are apparently close intimate partners. The sheer level of violence, Im not a religious person really but that twitter feed to me seems to be evidence of actual evil. This thread is focused on the wrong point about this issue.

One thing that might come out of this ridiculous situation is that this X account might get some more traction.

I didn't know about it before; I know about it now, and I will tell others about it in the future.

Thanks OP :)

Datun · 15/10/2026 08:37

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 08:10

The fact they started it shows what type of place this has become.

It's a bit like if someone shows up to your party with all the equipment to shoot up. At some point, you've given the impression that you're okay with recreational heroin to someone in attendance and you might want to rethink how you present yourself.

Oh please, please tell me you told HQ that allowing women to talk here is like someone shooting up heroin.