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"We" can always tell

313 replies

PollyNomial · 14/10/2026 20:07

Except when "we" can't:
https://x.com/CountDeadWomen/status/2110284296388739454

Note the weasel words of the thread don't actually apologise for allowing terrible people to decide the victim wasn't female because she wasn't sufficiently meeting a stereotypical view of how women should look in their bigoted opinions. The fault for behaving in a bigoted fashion is only that of the bigots and no-one else.

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Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:54

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 12:52

The position of needing to have clear data to analyse to understand male violence against women?

One woman. Judged as a man because of the way she looked, is one too many.

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:56

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 12:53

It’s a list of dead women. Murdered by men. Sex is relevant.

Yes and it was a woman who was murdered. It's disgusting behaviour.

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 12:57

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:54

One woman. Judged as a man because of the way she looked, is one too many.

We don't know the reason(s) she was removed from the list and then added back.

We do know the reason that there was doubt - the courts and police have a history of providing inaccurate information which is then relayed by the media.

The solution is to report sex accurately.

murasaki · 15/10/2026 12:57

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:54

One woman. Judged as a man because of the way she looked, is one too many.

Then so is one male crime reported as having been committed by a woman. And that's being going on for years. Any opinions on that?

Or the woman who was forced to call the man who assulted her 'she' in court and had her compensation cut when she didn't?

Orangerowanberries · 15/10/2026 12:58

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 07:54

That MN rethink whether they want to be a hub for behaviour that includes going off site to harass the family of a murder victim and write awful posts about the victim herself because they think she is trans.

You seem awfully keen to exploit this poor woman rather than condemn those who have led up a situation where there must be doubt over the accuracy of reports.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 12:59

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:56

Yes and it was a woman who was murdered. It's disgusting behaviour.

Do you think they should check that the victims are women before they are put on the list?

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:00

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 12:57

We don't know the reason(s) she was removed from the list and then added back.

We do know the reason that there was doubt - the courts and police have a history of providing inaccurate information which is then relayed by the media.

The solution is to report sex accurately.

I've said my piece. I think this whole thread and the excuses about labelling that poor woman a man is awful. Won't be replying again. You know what I think of you all.

moto748e · 15/10/2026 13:01

It kinda blows my mind that anyone would have the sheer front to come on threads like this and actually try to claim the high moral ground, whilst lecturing women?

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 13:01

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:00

I've said my piece. I think this whole thread and the excuses about labelling that poor woman a man is awful. Won't be replying again. You know what I think of you all.

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I think you are very frustrated that we aren't following the script you would like us to use.

Orangerowanberries · 15/10/2026 13:02

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:00

I've said my piece. I think this whole thread and the excuses about labelling that poor woman a man is awful. Won't be replying again. You know what I think of you all.

Edited

But you have nothing to say about gender ideology which has directly led this situation by constantly misrepresenting men as women?

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:02

Removed from the "list", when we know how these kind of lists have gone in the past shows how far gone you all are. A list of the unworthy. Frightening.

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 13:03

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:02

Removed from the "list", when we know how these kind of lists have gone in the past shows how far gone you all are. A list of the unworthy. Frightening.

Edited

?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 13:05

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 12:53

If you do it, I'll judge you. It's that simple.

Darling, you judge me anyway. I've seen enough of your posts in the past to know your values are not ones I respect, nor does your opinion of me matter.

I post for fairness and clarity when Gender Critical Feminism is misrepresented, not because I am concerned that people who I already know sign up to the sexist ideas of Genderism might have a poor opinion of me.

And so, I judge you.

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:07

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 13:05

Darling, you judge me anyway. I've seen enough of your posts in the past to know your values are not ones I respect, nor does your opinion of me matter.

I post for fairness and clarity when Gender Critical Feminism is misrepresented, not because I am concerned that people who I already know sign up to the sexist ideas of Genderism might have a poor opinion of me.

And so, I judge you.

Sorry, I don't have a clue who you are.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 13:10

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:07

Sorry, I don't have a clue who you are.

No worries. I recognise your username and know your views about views like mine. You don't need to recognise my name.

murasaki · 15/10/2026 13:10

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:02

Removed from the "list", when we know how these kind of lists have gone in the past shows how far gone you all are. A list of the unworthy. Frightening.

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Is a list of women killed by men a list of the unworthy now? Because that's what you seem to be saying.

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 13:12

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:07

Sorry, I don't have a clue who you are.

So Rhinos is excluded from the 'all' in "You know what I think of you all"?

So confusing.

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:13

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/10/2026 13:10

No worries. I recognise your username and know your views about views like mine. You don't need to recognise my name.

Good, because I don't. But you do mine. Thanks!

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 13:14

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:02

Removed from the "list", when we know how these kind of lists have gone in the past shows how far gone you all are. A list of the unworthy. Frightening.

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You’d have been better off sticking to the ‘not replying’ line. This ^ is just nonsense.

akkakk · 15/10/2026 13:15

nicepotoftea · 15/10/2026 13:01

I think you are very frustrated that we aren't following the script you would like us to use.

I think it might be more frustration that not everyone is submissive and does what they are told 🤔

one of the issues we have in society at present is that people personalise everything...

they take their situation and extrapolate upwards to the general - of course individual situations are terribly sad - a child who is run over / a person who gets cancer / someone who loses their job - all terrible for the individuals and those around them - but we still need to also understand patterns at a national level - is a child being run over every day all over the country, or was it a one-off - changes traffic policy / only one person with cancer, or an increasing % nationally - changes NHS policy / just one job loss, or the start of entering a recession - might change government policy...

we can not as a society allow those who are close to someone who has suffered to effectively bully society in other areas - it is terribly sad, but we still need to understand national stats...

and when a woman is injured or killed by a man - that is a pattern we need to understand nationally - conceptually a simple statistic, made tricky by the insistance by a tiny minority that anyone can be a man or woman as they choose - this adds layers of complexity to understanding accurate stats, and it means that occasionally a mistake might be made...

the apology was issued, and details corrected, but we can't allow emotion at that one scenario to get out of hand and damage what we also need to understand nationally - and knowing these stats is important (more important would of course be to do something about it!).

So, yes it is sad for the family concerned, but it was an understandable mistake which only happened because of the cultural confusion instigated by those promote an alternative reality in which sex is changeable -so we must:

  • not make these mistakes where possible (and apologise if they happen)
  • continue to record violence against women
  • fight back for clarity and truth around sex being natal and immutable.
EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 13:16

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 12:53

It’s a list of dead women. Murdered by men. Sex is relevant.

Yes this is relevant. It’s part of why women ask for single sex spaces.

chirrupybird · 15/10/2026 13:17

And there was the woman beaten up standing in the queue for the ladies because some bloke though she wasn't feminine enough to be a woman and he was 'protecting' his wife who was also in the queue.

BackToLurk · 15/10/2026 13:17

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:13

Good, because I don't. But you do mine. Thanks!

I don’t think it was a compliment.

napody · 15/10/2026 13:17

Lexibletheflexible · 15/10/2026 07:51

You know the gender identity bollocks could exist but people draw the line at harassing a murder victim and their family.

Could you state anything any more obvious? This idea that people need to be seen to publicly condemn every single awful thing that other people do is ridiculous. OBVIOUSLY harassing bereaved family members is wrong. The word 'harassing' is a bit of a clue.

Shedmistress · 15/10/2026 13:18

Differentforgirls · 15/10/2026 13:02

Removed from the "list", when we know how these kind of lists have gone in the past shows how far gone you all are. A list of the unworthy. Frightening.

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This is a list of women killed by men.

What exactly are they 'unworthy' of?

Genuinely confused at what point it is you think you are making.