"We" can always tell

It was shared on here to recruit others to join in.

There we go. A fuck up, and an apology. Horrible for the family and another shitty consequence of gender identity bollocks.

Hopefully as editorial standards move away from the past decade of mis-sexing at will, accuracy will improve and people will be able to start taking reports at face value again.

You know the gender identity bollocks could exist but people draw the line at harassing a murder victim and their family.

The message board isn't responsible for the reprehensible behaviour of troglodytes on the internet because they are gender-critical.

A mistake was made; some arseholes took advantage of it; apologies were given by the people who reacted a little too early.

What exactly do you want to happen as a result of this?

That MN rethink whether they want to be a hub for behaviour that includes going off site to harass the family of a murder victim and write awful posts about the victim herself because they think she is trans.

Again, it is not the responsibility of the gender-critical person with the X account if grown-ups, kids and internet bots cannot act with decorum towards a murder victim.

How did you come to that conculsion?

It is the responsibility of the site if they allow posts and a general culture that nurture this type of behaviour. If people think they can come here and share a post like that about a murder victim, then the site is part of the problem here.

Did you ask MN about the thread?

Most decent people would conclude that this is a sign that things have gone too far

I have indeed

What was their response?

Waiting for it now.

So you could have some empathy with the author of the X thread in that you have written something inflammatory on the internet before getting the whole story.

What level of responsibility do you think Mumsnet/Reddit etc carries for the behaviour of anonymous internet users that post on their site?

People can start threads about pretty much anything.

Are you wanting all threads to be approved before they are posted?

Or all posts?

Quite a bit. Especially since they actualy don't have to follow laws and can kick anyone out for any reason. You don't have to have proof that would convince a jury or judge that someone is toxic for the culture of the site. You can jhst ban them because they say some toxic shit.

No, I want comments that encourage hate and harassment as well as their commenters to be removed as members

One person (not members plural) posted a link to the story on X. They were told - this time actually by members, plural - that it was a horrible thread to start. They got about five replies from memory (ie barely anyone engaged) all expressing distaste. The thread was taken down - presumably because it was reported. Of course there are some posters who are now suggesting that the only reason that members wanted it removed was to ‘hide the transphobia’ that is apparently rampant. Unfortunately for them the evidence doesn’t really support that claim.

Interesting.

On the r/transwomen Reddit thread, they consistently encourage violence towards women who don't comply with transgender ideology. What actions do you think Reddit should take about that?

What has content posted on twitter got to do with this forum, and why is there an expectation that MN should deal with it?

The fact they started it shows what type of place this has become.

It's a bit like if someone shows up to your party with all the equipment to shoot up. At some point, you've given the impression that you're okay with recreational heroin to someone in attendance and you might want to rethink how you present yourself.

Because at least one poster from here shared the post here to get people to go and harass the victim.

Jesus Christ. Someone genuinely thinks it's reasonable to shut down an entire site of women's conversions about a malicious social movement that seeks to undefine us politically, legally and socially because one post was written about a mistake that had also lead some other people, somewhere else, to act like shits.

One cannot help but wonder why they are so much more exercised by the one post here than the creeds of misogynist bile on reddit and other places leading to young men developing deeply disturbing attitudes and behaviour towards women.

One might, indeed, think it's not about that one post at all, but simply another excuse to carry on an existing vendetta.

They should ban them. Of course. This isnt about who thinks what or who is right about trans people.

I suggest whatever is posted here you won't like the content, the tone, or any of the general suppositions engaged with by the majority.