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I just don’t want to do secret Santa!

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YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 12:06

Just a little rant!

SIL has asked again this year to do secret Santa for the whole family - third year in a row after being turned down the previous two years. The first year we said it wasn’t our thing thanks but no thanks, last year we just said oh well we’ve started buying presents already - I’m trying to be polite and non confrontational but she either will not get the message that we aren’t interested or simply doesn’t care and wants to push what she wants anyway. This year it was in a group chat so even more awkward.

I just don’t want to do it. It doesn’t fit in with your we finance Christmas, and I find the idea generally joyless and miserable. I enjoy choosing presents and wrapping them up nicely for people - I don’t want to select an item from an approved list and have everyone spend the same (may as well just buy something for yourself).

The thing is I could not give less of a shit if she and BIL don’t want to buy us Christmas presents because of money or laziness or whatever else, I just don’t want to be told who I can and can’t buy presents for and have the joy of choosing taken away from me. I’m really happy for people to just please themselves and spend whatever they feel
comfortable but it’s causing drama.

It’s not even like we are one of these massive families where some kind of arrangement (not secret Santa though please!) to keep costs down would make sense - it’s just 3 couples and a baby!

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Sunbringer · 17/10/2026 12:48

Just say ‘we don’t like SS’.

RiaOverTheRainbow · 17/10/2026 12:49

How about everyone lists a couple of things they'd like, with no obligation to stick to the lists? Then people who enjoy choosing presents can carry on, and SIL and anyone else who finds it stressful doesn't have to guess.

(I'm also the Scrooge who hates presents, I've yet to find a way to bow out that wouldn't spoil things for anyone else, but that would make things better if my family would only cooperate😅)

sherbetlemonade · 17/10/2026 12:49

I can see it both ways to be honest. In DH's family we did it for quite a few years as there were 7 adults and 6 teen/young adult offspring and it made sense, especially since we all lived a long way apart, with some overseas. Saved rather a lot on postage too. It has all petered out now, as now there's another generation of babies & pre-schoolers, so we just buy for the kids.

From my point of view though, it did mean that I got very few presents as I'm an only child, both parents long gone and no other family to speak of.

BandyUrnham · 17/10/2026 12:57

I do buy for some people, and enjoy giving, and don't really expect anything in return.

What I didn't like was the 'I'd like [expensive gift]' that was reciprocated with some back-of-the-drawer regifted but inappropriate items. Those people were crossed off.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 17/10/2026 14:31

Deadringer · 17/10/2026 12:30

We tried it in our family and it didn't work, but I think yabu, because when you give a gift its supposed to be for the pleasure of the receiver, not to give joy to the giver, I think you are being a bit selfish there but no one can force you to do it.

Only Mumsnet could accuse someone of being selfish because they WANT to buy gifts for people

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 17/10/2026 14:52

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 17/10/2026 14:31

Only Mumsnet could accuse someone of being selfish because they WANT to buy gifts for people

OP can still do that (and her husband and whoever else) without her poor attitude towards her SIL though. Look at OPs comments,

she either will not get the message that we aren’t interested or simply doesn’t care and wants to push what she wants anyway

I could not give less of a shit if she and BIL don’t want to buy us Christmas presents because of money or laziness or whatever else

I think it’s more cba to think of presents than money tbh!

Maybe the SIL is tired of buying stuff for the sake of it.

OP is an adult and can buy what she wants. SIL is an adult and can dip out of it if she wants. It would all be more pleasant without the passive aggressive comments though.

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 15:41

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 17/10/2026 14:52

OP can still do that (and her husband and whoever else) without her poor attitude towards her SIL though. Look at OPs comments,

she either will not get the message that we aren’t interested or simply doesn’t care and wants to push what she wants anyway

I could not give less of a shit if she and BIL don’t want to buy us Christmas presents because of money or laziness or whatever else

I think it’s more cba to think of presents than money tbh!

Maybe the SIL is tired of buying stuff for the sake of it.

OP is an adult and can buy what she wants. SIL is an adult and can dip out of it if she wants. It would all be more pleasant without the passive aggressive comments though.

What I find irksome is having previously said I don’t want to do something and then being repeatedly asked again. It’s rude.

It would be different if we were approached with a “hey we are struggling for money could we have a conversation about Xmas presents” and agreed from there (ideally between BIL and DH as it is their side of the family). I said the first year I was open to having a conversation about scaling back or setting a budget but I wasn’t interested in secret Santa - I don’t enjoy them.

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JustWalnut · 17/10/2026 15:49

I'd hazard a guess that she doesn't want whatever tat you all keep giving her. It's getting presents not giving them that she's objecting too. Most adults have way too much stuff. Why would you insist on adding to it just because buying and wrapping gifts makes you feel good.

Airconfan · 17/10/2026 15:52

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 12:12

Possibly apart from they are free to do token gifts or no gifts at all. We don’t spend a lot of money.

This doesn’t work for most people. I couldn’t not buy someone a present knowing they were getting me something.

A compromise would be you agree not to buy them presents and you don’t buy them one, if you both have kids you do kids only etc

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 17/10/2026 16:01

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 15:41

What I find irksome is having previously said I don’t want to do something and then being repeatedly asked again. It’s rude.

It would be different if we were approached with a “hey we are struggling for money could we have a conversation about Xmas presents” and agreed from there (ideally between BIL and DH as it is their side of the family). I said the first year I was open to having a conversation about scaling back or setting a budget but I wasn’t interested in secret Santa - I don’t enjoy them.

So tell her and her husband to not buy anything.

You (and your husband and his parents (is that the right relationships?)) buy her and her husband presents, and they can give them away if they don’t like them, like you said upthread, ”Then she’s free to give them away isn’t she”.

Then everyone is happy, especially you as you’ve still had the opportunity to buy things, you said ”I enjoy choosing presents and wrapping them up nicely for people” and you can still do this.

I think this sounds like the perfect solution, what do you think?

latetothefisting · 17/10/2026 16:08

just say 'SIL, you've asked about SS for three years in a row now, and I think we've all been pretty consistent about not wanting to do it. If you want to stop gifts between the siblings/adults or keep to a set amount, happy to discuss that, but I don't see the point in asking about SS every year when we've made it pretty clear nobody is up for it."

Lsquiggles · 17/10/2026 16:10

Each time you've said no, what has she said? You'd think she'd get the message by now especially if the wider family also don't want to do it

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 16:14

latetothefisting · 17/10/2026 16:08

just say 'SIL, you've asked about SS for three years in a row now, and I think we've all been pretty consistent about not wanting to do it. If you want to stop gifts between the siblings/adults or keep to a set amount, happy to discuss that, but I don't see the point in asking about SS every year when we've made it pretty clear nobody is up for it."

Yes DH is going to pass this onto BIL now the immediate group chat situation has been dealt with. I can’t be dreading another message about it next October!

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Ohhelpwhatnow · 17/10/2026 16:16

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 12:22

Nothing - she is free not to get us a gift. In fact I would rather they say would be okay if we didn’t exchange gifts this year than do a secret Santa. We could still by for PILs and I’ll cut out the middle man and by the thing I want for myself

Good idea, just agree not to give or receive presents from that couple.

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 16:18

Lsquiggles · 17/10/2026 16:10

Each time you've said no, what has she said? You'd think she'd get the message by now especially if the wider family also don't want to do it

Well this is what is confusing because the first year I was very direct and said we aren’t into it and she said okay don’t worry about it! Last year DH posted we weren’t up for it and had already started shopping anyway in the group chat and she suggested doing it without us but MIL shut it down completely…and this year it’s just been passive aggressive when we said no followed by silence from everyone else. It’s extremely tiresome!

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arlequin · 17/10/2026 16:21

She’s not really free not to get you all a gift is she - it would feel really one sided. I’m absolutely team secret Santa I’m afraid, due to financial constraints. We’re always hard up. It’s not laziness

brownbootsandhats · 17/10/2026 16:21

I don’t want to do secret Santa , so will stop buying you gifts if that makes your life better

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 16:24

arlequin · 17/10/2026 16:21

She’s not really free not to get you all a gift is she - it would feel really one sided. I’m absolutely team secret Santa I’m afraid, due to financial constraints. We’re always hard up. It’s not laziness

I appreciate that but a limit of £50pp has been suggested. Between a couple that’s £100 which you could easily buy 4 presents for which is why I think money is a red herring.

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FancyKitten · 17/10/2026 16:27

She doesn’t want your carefully chosen gift.

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 16:28

FancyKitten · 17/10/2026 16:27

She doesn’t want your carefully chosen gift.

Fine but I don’t want to do secret Santa - why is what she wants more important than what I or everyone else wants?

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YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 16:29

brownbootsandhats · 17/10/2026 16:21

I don’t want to do secret Santa , so will stop buying you gifts if that makes your life better

This is probably the easiest way - I still think it’s pretty joyless and miserable though. It’s Christmas for gods sake!

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Coconutter24 · 17/10/2026 16:31

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 17/10/2026 12:16

Why I am creating obligation rather than she trying to force a new way of doing things that is not wanted?

Some people will not want to be bought a gift and not reciprocate. She would probably feel bad not buying you a gift if you were to buy her one so now she feels she has to buy for you.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 17/10/2026 16:31

Is her husband your PILs son? Where is he in all this? Does he leave all the present buying to her? Is that the issue do you think?

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 17/10/2026 16:34

arlequin · 17/10/2026 16:21

She’s not really free not to get you all a gift is she - it would feel really one sided. I’m absolutely team secret Santa I’m afraid, due to financial constraints. We’re always hard up. It’s not laziness

I’m team ‘buy your own shite’ and team ‘let’s set aside some time and have a fabulous meal and game of Monopoly (cheating allowed)’.

Team ‘no pressure’.

DelphiniumBlue · 17/10/2026 16:36

SiL and I have always enjoyed bargain hunting and years ago , when we were skint with young children, set a very low budget limit for adult presents. It was enough for a few books from a charity shop, or something pretty from a boot sale. It worked for us, we knew each other's tastes well enough, and meant we could pick something appropriate, and do the Christmassy thing of having something to wrap. We started extending it to the DC, they would get a pre-agreed amount of cash plus something inexpensive to open, maybe vintage comics for older ones or poseable figures or small bags of lego for younger ones. For pre-school children , it's really easy to find secondhand bargains in good condition, and they don't know or care .
So if it's possible that money is the issue, you could suggest something like that. If the issue is not money, then suggest she can get everyone giftcards and you can carry on choosing for people as you see fit.

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