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DS has been uninvited from a sleepover and I don’t know what to tell him

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TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:19

DS is in year 6, 10 but turns 11 next month. One of his closest friends is having a sleepover next weekend for her birthday and invited him along with 5 other girls. He’s the only boy.

He’s always got on better with girls really. He’s got a couple of boy mates but theyre more school friends if that makes sense, whereas the girls are who he actually wants to spend time with outside school. He’s been friends with this particular girl since year 3 and they’ve been to each others houses loads of times, so it’s not like they’ve only just started hanging about together.

Anyway he was invited last week. They were going to have pizza, watch films and all sleep in the living room.

Yesterday the mum messaged me saying she’d had a conversation with one of the other mums who wasnt comfortable with her DD staying overnight if a boy was there. Apparently she’d not really thought about it before but had decided she was going to make it girls only after all. So DS is no longer invited.

I do understand that its her house and she can have whatever rules she wants but I feel really uncomfortable about the way its happened. He was invited and now he’s been dropped because another parent has an issue with it. The birthday girl apparently still wants him there and they’ve not fallen out or anything.

I havent told him yet because I honestly dont know how to explain it without him thinking she’s changed her mind about being his friend. He doesnt get invited to that many sleepovers and he was genuinely excited about this one.

Part of me thinks I should just say the plans have changed and leave it at that, but then he’s going to find out at school when the other girls talk about it.

Would you tell him the actual reason or keep it vague? And would you say anything to the mum or just leave it now?

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GloryDias · Today 15:37

I agree that at that age it's not a good idea, it's safeguarding your son as much as anything - especially at Yr 6 age when everyone is hitting puberty. Yr 6 boys & girls usually don't get changed together at school for PE so there could be embarrasment etc, it also just takes one of the girls to accuse him of something inappropriate.

ScaredButUnavoidable · Today 15:37

You’re making this a unnecessary drama.

He’s perfectly old enough to understand that mixed sex sleepovers aren't considered appropriate for most parents.

Easytorecall · Today 15:38

TeenToTwenties · Today 15:35

The Mum invited and then disinvited leaving the OP in a difficult position.
In this case I therefore think it would be fine to ask, tough if it is a bit awkward for the Mum.

I have asked if the birthday girl verbally invited the DS without actually asking her mum

and no matter how difficult the position is, the mum should not be forced to invite him for any part of it and fact he hasn’t suggested would indicate she wasn’t told Dd was inviting him or… her DD also doesn’t want him to come for this bit

Easytorecall · Today 15:38

ScaredButUnavoidable · Today 15:37

You’re making this a unnecessary drama.

He’s perfectly old enough to understand that mixed sex sleepovers aren't considered appropriate for most parents.

Exactly.

SeniorSausage · Today 15:39

I definitely wouldnt have let my kids have mixed sex sleepovers at that age. They are approaching puberty and body changes become really evident.

BCSurvivor · Today 15:41

My son is 34 now, but I remember when he was in year 6 he was in a large, close group of friends, where only two were girls.
one of these girls came for a sleepover, it was just the two of them. and while it had seemed fine at the time, the reality was that it probably wasn't.
His friend had developed quite early, and wore a bra.
She was absolutely lovely, and far more mature than my son, who only saw her as his friend, but knowing she wore a bra definitely made me rethink mixed sex sleepovers.

TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:41

He was invited through the mum, she messaged me about it and then obviously DS and the girls have all been talking about it at school and getting excited.

He’s had sleepovers with some of the girls before but usually smaller ones with 2 or 3 girls, so it’s not completely new to him. I’ve never had any issues with it and neither have the other parents as far as I’m aware.

I dont think the girl whose mum has the issue is one of the birthday girls best friends tbh. They’re friends obviously but I dont think she has any particular priority over the others.

I did wonder about suggesting he goes for the pizza and films and then comes home before they go to sleep but I’m not sure if thats actually any better. He’d still know he was missing the sleepover bit and all the fun the girls will be having after he’s gone, and I think he’d probably be quite upset about that too. I’m a bit stuck really.

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pizzaHeart · Today 15:45

Of course it’s better. I think you need to use this opportunity calmly and realistically explain him the reality of differences between girls and boys.
I don’t think it’s about who has a priority he or this other friend, it looks for me like birthday parents haven’t thought it through in a way.

DrNo007 · Today 15:46

Re "I did wonder about suggesting he goes for the pizza and films and then comes home before they go to sleep but I’m not sure if thats actually any better. He’d still know he was missing the sleepover bit and all the fun the girls will be having after he’s gone, and I think he’d probably be quite upset about that too. I’m a bit stuck really." I think you are projecting here - don't spoil this option with your expectation that he would be disappointed. Give him the chance to enjoy what's on offer and not mind about what's not.

Blackandyellow65 · Today 15:47

I’ve got a 10 year old and I’d be really sad about this. Maybe I’ve just got a ‘young’ 10yo but this being an issue doesn’t cross my mind. I have two daughters and all of them had mixed sex sleepovers at that age. Maybe I’m just being naive?
Either way the truth is best op. As the birthday girls mum is fine with it, could you invite her to yours for a sleepover on another day and make the evening really special for them?

Bitzee · Today 15:47

Of course only if the mum is ok with it, but I would really encourage him to go for just pizza and the movie, because I’d want to encourage him to keep the friendship but with the caveat that now they’re getting older there are certain boundaries. And he should be told the truth of course. In fact this is a good opportunity to talk about how things are changing.

Walkerzoo · Today 15:48

I thought this would be about behaviours or something.

Tell him the truth. And ... I sort of understand it. I am not sure if I would be happy with it from either side. It also protects your DS. It is a difficult age, periods, puberty... Phones....

It will now be about navigating friendships and get togethers.

Easytorecall · Today 15:49

TryingNotToMakeItWorse · Today 15:41

He was invited through the mum, she messaged me about it and then obviously DS and the girls have all been talking about it at school and getting excited.

He’s had sleepovers with some of the girls before but usually smaller ones with 2 or 3 girls, so it’s not completely new to him. I’ve never had any issues with it and neither have the other parents as far as I’m aware.

I dont think the girl whose mum has the issue is one of the birthday girls best friends tbh. They’re friends obviously but I dont think she has any particular priority over the others.

I did wonder about suggesting he goes for the pizza and films and then comes home before they go to sleep but I’m not sure if thats actually any better. He’d still know he was missing the sleepover bit and all the fun the girls will be having after he’s gone, and I think he’d probably be quite upset about that too. I’m a bit stuck really.

Just say he can have a sleepover with one of his friends? Or is he only friends with this group?

And I can guarantee the birthday girl will be closer to some than others at this age

Alittlefrustrated · Today 15:49

Just ask OP and take it from there. We all have to deal with disappointments - it's a skill best learned well before adulthood. He may be more sensible and resilient than you give him credit for.

butterfliesandrainbows2022 · Today 15:50

Bitzee · Today 15:47

Of course only if the mum is ok with it, but I would really encourage him to go for just pizza and the movie, because I’d want to encourage him to keep the friendship but with the caveat that now they’re getting older there are certain boundaries. And he should be told the truth of course. In fact this is a good opportunity to talk about how things are changing.

As the other Mum hasn't mentioned that as a option i'd leave it. Asking might make the Mum feel awkward having to say No again

Bouncywaves · Today 15:50

If the mother hasn't suggested he attend just for the pizza and films, please don't propose this. Your son is certainly old enough to be told that he's aged out of mixed sex sleepovers. I wouldn't have agreed to this with my own sons at that age simply for their own protection from any accusation.

Fidgety31 · Today 15:50

Just tell him the truth . Being a boy - He’s gonna have a lifetime of having to be careful around females - this is just the start unfortunately.

LucieO · Today 15:51

I am probably being naive but what is the issue with mixed sleepovers at this age if they’re all friends? Other posters keep talking about the difference between boys and girls but how would you actually explain this to a child as justification for not allowing mixed sleepovers? Assuming everyone isn’t running around naked or getting changed in the same room and also assuming 10 year olds are aware they have different body parts.

Mischance · Today 15:51

How unfortunate. Bit of a storm in a teacup in my book and the complainant parent seems OTT to me.

How hard to explain this to him - to suddenly inject the received wisdom that males are a threat - a burden he will have to learn to live with.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · Today 15:51

Girliefriendlikespuppies · Today 15:25

Can he not just go for pizza and films and not sleep over? I’d tell him the truth.

This is a really good idea and one I’d suggest to the host mum…x

Easytorecall · Today 15:52

Some of those girls will have started their periods, developing breasts and I wonder whether this friend is one of them

throughtheseasons · Today 15:53

LucieO · Today 15:51

I am probably being naive but what is the issue with mixed sleepovers at this age if they’re all friends? Other posters keep talking about the difference between boys and girls but how would you actually explain this to a child as justification for not allowing mixed sleepovers? Assuming everyone isn’t running around naked or getting changed in the same room and also assuming 10 year olds are aware they have different body parts.

No one is running around naked in public toilets either but we still are mindful of a need for privacy and dignity, and the onset of puberty is a good age for that.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · Today 15:54

Bitzee · Today 15:47

Of course only if the mum is ok with it, but I would really encourage him to go for just pizza and the movie, because I’d want to encourage him to keep the friendship but with the caveat that now they’re getting older there are certain boundaries. And he should be told the truth of course. In fact this is a good opportunity to talk about how things are changing.

Brilliant suggestion and advice x

BillieWiper · Today 15:54

Yeah he doesn't need to sleep there. I'm sure once kids are hitting puberty/having periods it'll naturally become less accepted to have mixed sleepovers. At least to some people.

Gengha · Today 15:54

Redflagsabounded · Today 15:26

I would tell him the real reason - it's no longer appropriate for boys/girls to have mixed sex sleepovers at this age, it's not personal to him and he's done nothing wrong, but it's a decision the adults have made. Tell him you are sorry the decision was made after he was invited but it would have been the same result if the adults had thought about it in time. That you know he feels disappointed but it's part of growing up.

Don't make anyone the villain here. It's actually the right decision.

Absolutely this.

My son wanted to have sleepovers with female friends at similar ages, I just said it was not appropriate and they could still meet up/be friends but not stay over together.

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