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DP has invited his ex wife for Christmas dinner and says I’m being petty

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IcyPortal · Yesterday 19:29

Me and DP are having a bit of an argument about Christmas and I’m starting to wonder if I’m being unreasonable here.

We’ve been together 3 years and live together. I have a DS13 and DD8 from my previous relationship and he has two DDs, 15 and 10, from his marriage. His girls are with us alternate weekends and some of the school holidays. They are coming to us Christmas Eve and staying until Boxing Day this year.

We’d agreed we would have everyone here for Christmas dinner. His brother and my sister were invited as well, so its already going to be quite a full house. I don’t mind that, I like having people round for Christmas and the kids all get on well enough. I am the one who does most of the organising though, sorting food, presents, making sure everyone has got what they need etc. DP will help if I ask him but he isn’t the sort to think ahead about things.

Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner? Apparently he’d invited her because she would otherwise be on her own.

For context she has recently split up with her boyfriend and doesn’t have much family nearby. I do feel sorry for her in that respect and I’m not saying she should have to sit on her own all day if there is another option. But DP had already invited her before even mentioning it to me. I had no idea he was planning this and we hadn’t discussed it at all.

He said he thought it was the right thing to do and the girls would be happy having both their parents there. Which they are, his eldest especially was really pleased when she found out. I haven’t said anything to them about it and wouldn’t want to spoil their Christmas or make them feel like they have to choose between us.

But I don’t really understand why he couldn’t have asked me first? It’s my home as well and I’m going to be doing most of the work on the day. I finish work late on Christmas Eve so there is already going to be a lot to get sorted in a short space of time. I know having one extra person isn’t the end of the world but it isn’t really about the food or having enough chairs. I just feel like he’s made a decision that affects all of us and told me afterwards as though it’s already settled.

When I said I wasn’t comfortable with it he got quite annoyed and said I was being petty and making something nice into an issue. He said it was for the children. I said that I wasn’t stopping his girls seeing their mum. They could see her earlier in the day or he could take them to see her, or she could come over for a bit. I just hadn’t agreed to having her here for the whole dinner.

He then said it would be awkward if she only came for an hour and that the girls wanted her there. I do get that. They are old enough to understand their parents aren’t together but obviously it would be nice for them to have a Christmas where everyone can be in the same room and get along. I am not trying to make things difficult for them.

I don’t think she has done anything wrong either. We are civil when we see each other but we aren’t friends and we don’t socialise together. She’s never been rude to me and I have no reason to think anything is going on between them. They were married for a long time and have children together so obviously they will always have a connection. I’m not asking him to cut her out of their lives.

It is just that he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards. Usually it’s small things and I let it go, but this feels different because Christmas dinner is happening in our house and I’m the one who will be getting everything ready. I feel like if I had invited my ex to spend the day with us without discussing it with him, DP would have something to say about that.

My sister thinks he should have asked me first but says now that the girls are excited I should probably just let it happen. My friend says she wouldn’t have her partner’s ex wife sitting at her Christmas table at all, but I think that’s a bit harsh when she’s recently split up and would be alone otherwise.

I haven’t told DP she can’t come. I just said I wasn’t happy that he had invited her without even asking me, and now he’s acting like I’ve got a problem with his ex when that’s not what I said.

AIBU to think he should have spoken to me before inviting her, or am I making too much of it and should just get on with Christmas?

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LadyHexham · Today 19:58

If the ex-wife is in any way reasonable she could say she would love to come for a coffee / drink before lunch but not stay

Then if things go well she might stay longer.

Let's assume she also has feelings.

But you shouldn't be expected to wait on everyone.

(Like my mum did)

CharlotteByrde · Today 19:58

Please just go along with this with a smile on your face. It will mean so much to your step children for so many years. Sweet, but what about OP's own kids? Think how weird Christmas Day is going to be for them, sitting with someone else's happy family while their mum slaves in the kitchen?

Tangit · Today 20:01

IcyPortal · Today 10:29

If I’m honest I do most of the day to day stuff. I do the laundry, cooking and most of the cleaning, sorting the kids things out and all that. He does more of the outside bits and will do jobs that need doing around the house, bins, garden etc. He will help if I ask but I tend to be the one who notices what needs doing in the first place if that makes sense.

I know you said you don't want to invite your ex (fair enough) but you could play along with this a little. Don't actually invite him but tell your DP you have to give him a taste of his own medicine. You can tell him later it was just a wind up. If he wants petty, he'll get it!

Beryl92 · Today 20:07

PrettyPickle · Today 18:17

@IcyPortal I think there are actually two separate issues here:
Should the ex-wife be invited? Should he have consulted his partner before inviting her?

On the first point, I think his decision is understandable and potentially quite kind. His daughters are 15 and 10, their mum has recently split up with someone, she'd otherwise be alone, and the girls are clearly delighted at the prospect of both parents being together for part of Christmas Day. If everyone is civil and there isn't a history of drama and it appears you weren't the reason for their divorce, it could be a really positive memory for the children and set a good precedent for future graduations, weddings, grandchildren and other family events.

On the second point, I think you have a legitimate complaint. Christmas dinner in a shared home isn't like inviting someone for a quick coffee. It's a significant event, and you are the person doing most of the planning, cooking and hosting. No matter who the invitation was issued too, he should have asked if they were benefitting from your hard work and hostess skills. The fact that you weren't asked first would irritate many people, even those who would ultimately have agreed as I think you may well have done although I feel you probably would have to be encourage as the idea is a bot daunting.

What strikes me is that your objection doesn't actually seem to be "I don't want the ex there." You repeatedly say: you feel sorry for her, you doesn't think anything is going on, you understand the girls' feelings, you haven't forbidden it. Your real complaint is: "Why did you decide this without me?" That's quite different.

The bit that would concern me more than the invitation itself is this sentence:
"He does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards."

That suggests a pattern. If every decision involving his ex-wife or children gets made first and discussed with his current partner afterwards, then the Christmas dinner argument is really about feeling like a passenger in your own household.

I think you should probably let the invitation stand because the children are excited and the ex-wife sounds harmless. However, after Christmas I'd be having a calm conversation about decisions being made jointly in future.
In other words: The ex-wife coming to dinner = probably a good thing.
Inviting her without asking = not so good.

I suspect many Mumsnetters will focus on the ex being there at all, but to me the bigger issue is the lack of consultation rather than the guest herself.

I feel that your partner shoud have asked, acknowledged the strange ask and the extra work and that you would have probably said yes, aware it may initially seem a bit strange. By not giving you the opportunity to say yes, because he was afraid you would say no, he has turned what could have been a very nice joint gesture for her to join you at Christmas into a slightly disconcerting experience.

For me, if he didn't ask you as he felt you would say no, then he was willing to risk your discomfort for her inclusion. That would be the problem for me, he didn't give you a chance to agree beforehand and her loneliness trumped your discomfort.

And I agree with earlier posters that now the invitation has been issued and the kids know, its not an invitation that could be revoked without major upsets. But I suspect you do not want to revoke it, you want to know what was behind your partners decision to invite her without trusting you enough to discuss it with you beforehand.

This sounds a lot like chatGPT wrote it, but it's also quite sensible. I was pretty livid when my husband invited his own dad to xmas lunch without consulting me first, and of course he was welcome, I'd just have appreciated it being a joint decision.

Mackerelfillets · Today 20:09

I wouldnt want anyone alone at xmas but he absolutely should have asked you first. It was really cheeky of him, who the hell does he think he is???

PrettyPickle · Today 20:22

Beryl92 · Today 20:07

This sounds a lot like chatGPT wrote it, but it's also quite sensible. I was pretty livid when my husband invited his own dad to xmas lunch without consulting me first, and of course he was welcome, I'd just have appreciated it being a joint decision.

Never used chatGPT in my life and if I had it would get 0/10 for all the spelling mistakes.

Rhaidimiddim · Today 20:26

Rhubarb24 · Today 18:41

On a serious note, the problem isn't just that he didn't ask you, it's that he doesn't feel that he has to. And he probably never will. That's the problem. You need to decide whether you are happy to put up with that for the rest of your life.

He doesn't ask you because your opinion isn't important. He does what he wants and if you are inconvenienced, he doesn't care. He sees that as your problem.

Edited

I agree that this is the bigger issue. He is an ass for pulling this on you.

In your position I'd be reorganising Christmas so that you have it elswhere and leave him and his ex and daughters to source their own lovely day.

Then think about why I'd want to spend 2027 with him.

MeridianB · Today 20:27

CharlotteByrde · Today 19:58

Please just go along with this with a smile on your face. It will mean so much to your step children for so many years. Sweet, but what about OP's own kids? Think how weird Christmas Day is going to be for them, sitting with someone else's happy family while their mum slaves in the kitchen?

This. At the centre of it all is selfish DP.

WallaceinAnderland · Today 21:32

He will help if I ask but I tend to be the one who notices what needs doing in the first place if that makes sense.

😂

AnotherAnnie · Today 21:34

It sounds as though it wasnt the invite, it is that he didnt either talk it through first or apologise for not asking you first for any big celebration.

Maybe agree to go through invites and even who to try not to invite when planning , discuss if to trust each other and have each others back when put on the spot for an invite...I suggest make it a rule that if someone invites someone without the other knowing they will explain and apologise. even if they dont think they should have to.I am a woman but my defensiveness is why we did this.

My family had some fun working out silly exceptions- no same day tea parties in the rain unless <fill in the blank> and the like.

5128gap · Today 21:49

I'm never keen on men who want to appear a good person on the back of a woman's work.
He gets to please his daughters, have his ex think he's a great guy and do absolutely nothing other than sit back and bask in the goodwill. And to add insult to injury he took it so much for granted that you'd enable him, he didn't even ask.
I'd be telling him that if he's so comfortable as host to decide on the guests, he can step up and co host. Divide the tasks and tell him he's doing his.

Treehorns · Today 21:52

undergroundandoverground · Today 19:44

So HIS kids get both parents for xmas day.
Your kids get to see this. But despite you also being on good terms with your ex, you won't consider inviting him too and making it fair for YOUR own children so as not to upset him. Have I read that right?!

Do your kids know about the new invitee??

Also: Does his ex have no shame? There is no way I'd accept this invite in her shoes. (Though TBH if my ex had my kids so little he'd not be getting to enjoy xmas day and me being sat on my own anyway).

My ex sees the kids regularly, I have had him in my house for part of xmas day before but it was my choice, it was because kids were so tiny, and I'm single so no new partner or blended family dynamics to consider. Plus we only did it the first year. We now have a different xmas arrangement.

This isn't just about xmas day though is it OP. He's not coming off great tbh in general. You're like his skivvy. He's not thought of your feelings, your kids feelings, thought to ask, doesn't pull his weight in the house or with the kids, the physical or mental load. I'd be doing some wider thinking in your shoes.

Edited

Great post.
His children have both parents.
Yours see you, the skivvy.
Appalling modelling and parenting IMO.
What a message to be sending them about who matters.

PinkBottle75 · Today 21:54

OP you sound a bit passive. Keeping the peace, tit for tat, don't want to rock the boat... keep it all swept under the carpet...

Tell him that you're upset. Tell him he's made you think he's being a bit of a dictator, just announcing things and then catching you up after.

He needs to discuss his plans with YOU first, then his ex-wife. Not the other way around.

Where are his priorities?

He's got a good deal going there. You catering for his entire family... and you working up until Xmas Eve...

Something isn't quite right OP and you can feel it yourself. So lean into it.

RindyCella · Today 22:11

YANBU to think that he should have asked or be upset that you’re doing all the work.

But my SIL has divorced parents who spend most Christmases together with their kids/extended family, and it really is much nicer that my husband’s divorced parents who wouldn’t even consider being in the same room for their grandchild’s birthday or any other event at all.

Littlejellyuk · Today 22:11

IcyPortal · Yesterday 19:29

Me and DP are having a bit of an argument about Christmas and I’m starting to wonder if I’m being unreasonable here.

We’ve been together 3 years and live together. I have a DS13 and DD8 from my previous relationship and he has two DDs, 15 and 10, from his marriage. His girls are with us alternate weekends and some of the school holidays. They are coming to us Christmas Eve and staying until Boxing Day this year.

We’d agreed we would have everyone here for Christmas dinner. His brother and my sister were invited as well, so its already going to be quite a full house. I don’t mind that, I like having people round for Christmas and the kids all get on well enough. I am the one who does most of the organising though, sorting food, presents, making sure everyone has got what they need etc. DP will help if I ask him but he isn’t the sort to think ahead about things.

Anyway a few days ago he mentioned that his ex wife would be coming for Christmas dinner as well. I actually thought he was joking at first and said what do you mean coming for dinner? Apparently he’d invited her because she would otherwise be on her own.

For context she has recently split up with her boyfriend and doesn’t have much family nearby. I do feel sorry for her in that respect and I’m not saying she should have to sit on her own all day if there is another option. But DP had already invited her before even mentioning it to me. I had no idea he was planning this and we hadn’t discussed it at all.

He said he thought it was the right thing to do and the girls would be happy having both their parents there. Which they are, his eldest especially was really pleased when she found out. I haven’t said anything to them about it and wouldn’t want to spoil their Christmas or make them feel like they have to choose between us.

But I don’t really understand why he couldn’t have asked me first? It’s my home as well and I’m going to be doing most of the work on the day. I finish work late on Christmas Eve so there is already going to be a lot to get sorted in a short space of time. I know having one extra person isn’t the end of the world but it isn’t really about the food or having enough chairs. I just feel like he’s made a decision that affects all of us and told me afterwards as though it’s already settled.

When I said I wasn’t comfortable with it he got quite annoyed and said I was being petty and making something nice into an issue. He said it was for the children. I said that I wasn’t stopping his girls seeing their mum. They could see her earlier in the day or he could take them to see her, or she could come over for a bit. I just hadn’t agreed to having her here for the whole dinner.

He then said it would be awkward if she only came for an hour and that the girls wanted her there. I do get that. They are old enough to understand their parents aren’t together but obviously it would be nice for them to have a Christmas where everyone can be in the same room and get along. I am not trying to make things difficult for them.

I don’t think she has done anything wrong either. We are civil when we see each other but we aren’t friends and we don’t socialise together. She’s never been rude to me and I have no reason to think anything is going on between them. They were married for a long time and have children together so obviously they will always have a connection. I’m not asking him to cut her out of their lives.

It is just that he does sometimes agree to things with her or the girls and then tell me afterwards. Usually it’s small things and I let it go, but this feels different because Christmas dinner is happening in our house and I’m the one who will be getting everything ready. I feel like if I had invited my ex to spend the day with us without discussing it with him, DP would have something to say about that.

My sister thinks he should have asked me first but says now that the girls are excited I should probably just let it happen. My friend says she wouldn’t have her partner’s ex wife sitting at her Christmas table at all, but I think that’s a bit harsh when she’s recently split up and would be alone otherwise.

I haven’t told DP she can’t come. I just said I wasn’t happy that he had invited her without even asking me, and now he’s acting like I’ve got a problem with his ex when that’s not what I said.

AIBU to think he should have spoken to me before inviting her, or am I making too much of it and should just get on with Christmas?

I would be livid in your shoes if DH decided to invite a guest without discussing first- as you are the one who sorts out the whole of Christmas day. 😠

He didn't discuss it with you. He TOLD you/informed you that HE decided to add an extra guest.
Forget that its his ex wife, that is NOT the issue. The issue is the disrespect of just adding another person onto your plate to consider/cook for/entertain. 💯

You have 2 options:
Petty = ask your Ex hubby to come to xmas dinner and give him a taste of his own medicine. 😉
Or... tell him he can sort xmas day/dinner /gifts and all the other jobs this year 👍

ETA: He wants to be big balls and make the decisions without your input?
Sound! 😎
Then let him take the reins, crack on and sort all of xmas!🖕
@IcyPortal

nomas · Today 22:14

It’s crazy to me that you raised your children and divorced one man, got freedom and then got with a man who doesn’t see housework as his responsibility and thinks he can get you to cook for his ex wife.

You had freedom and you threw it away! For what?

KatyAnnwillsaveus · Today 22:14

So in the space of just 3 years, you've met him, introduced your children to him, given up your perfectly good home for him and his children, moved in with him, become his household drudge and the recipient of his repeated disrespect and disregard for your opinion. This is not a good man or a good relationship. The invitation of the ex is a by-product of his disrespect for you, but it is also trivial compared to your other problem - having chosen a shit man you are now tied down to.

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