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FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

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OpenScroller · 14/10/2026 16:48

Four in five jobs created over the past decade have been taken by migrants.

Of the 3.7million new roles recorded under the PAYE system since 2014, just 734,000 were taken by UK nationals, a think-tank has found.

EU citizens accounted for 408,000 jobs, while the vast majority – 2.5million – went to migrants from the rest of the world, the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ) said, with most of the surge coming since the pandemic.

The think-tank warned that while employers gained 'unprecedented access to overseas labour', taxpayers have been forced to absorb the cost of millions of Britons being 'written off' and left on benefits.

As the number of migrant workers soared by 2.1million from 2020, the number of people receiving out-of-work benefits across the UK rose by 2.3million.

More than one in four (29 per cent) of the jobs that went to migrant workers from outside Europe were in health and social work.

So much for British jobs for British people!

Do we think this is due to Brits being 'too lazy to work' or because of a combination of employers wanting to pay lower wages and offer worse working conditions to migrants/preferring to employ migrants/not wanting to invest in training Brits/diversity hire tick boxes etc.

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/CSJ-State_of_Dependency.pdf

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/CSJ-State_of_Dependency.pdf

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blacksax · Today 17:47

Did I just roll my eyes out loud?

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · Today 17:56

XenoBitch · Today 17:39

Totally different reasons though.

Back packing Brits do it in Australia to fund their trip. They are not there because they could not get a job here. No one unemployed with no money is spending the £1k+ for flights to Oz.
Those Brits are not the ones desperate for work here. They tend to be middle class and on a gap year.

Exactly. The young people who pay for a working holiday visa and flights are highly unlikely to be the same ones who are in receipt of benefits due to being unable to find suitable work.

JenniferBooth · Today 17:58

Frequency · Today 17:12

It's pretty obvious the poster wanted the teenage benefit claimants (young care leavers and young parents) and not the middle class uni students who go backpacking around Aus to go fruit picking on British farms for a pittance, so social housing rules are very much relevant.

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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timeforachange26 · Today 18:06

JenniferBooth · Today 17:58

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So why can't the unemployed teens do it

XenoBitch · Today 18:07

Timeforachange26 · Today 18:06

So why can't the unemployed teens do it

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

HelpMyBlackLabradorVotesReform · Today 18:23

XenoBitch · Today 18:07

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

They will be very different groups of teens. The ones motivated enough to go to Australia and get work to fund their trip are not going same ones that are unemployed They probably work in the UK to fund the trip also and will have got more life experience to get a job when they get back. Some teens just have the get up and go and other don't

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 18:23

XenoBitch · Today 18:07

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

😆

XenoBitch · Today 18:27

HelpMyBlackLabradorVotesReform · Today 18:23

They will be very different groups of teens. The ones motivated enough to go to Australia and get work to fund their trip are not going same ones that are unemployed They probably work in the UK to fund the trip also and will have got more life experience to get a job when they get back. Some teens just have the get up and go and other don't

Well yes, that was the point that me and @JenniferBooth were trying to make.

PP saying Brits go to Oz to fruit pick, so why can't Brits fruit pick here.. totally different groups and motivation.

If you want to buy a house and start a family, seasonal work is no good at all.

ToWhitToWhoo · Today 18:29

HelpMyBlackLabradorVotesReform · Today 18:23

They will be very different groups of teens. The ones motivated enough to go to Australia and get work to fund their trip are not going same ones that are unemployed They probably work in the UK to fund the trip also and will have got more life experience to get a job when they get back. Some teens just have the get up and go and other don't

And some teens have the Bank of Mum and Dad, and some don't..

Timeforachange26 · Today 19:07

XenoBitch · Today 18:07

Unemployed teens magic money out their arse and fly to Oz?

Oh FFS How thick are some people.? Unemployed teens living with parents and hopefully near the farm.

They won't be buying a house on seasonal work ( not that many teens but houses) 1 but they will have a couple of months work rather than languishing on under £100 a week universal credit while sat in their bedroom

XenoBitch · Today 19:11

Timeforachange26 · Today 19:07

Oh FFS How thick are some people.? Unemployed teens living with parents and hopefully near the farm.

They won't be buying a house on seasonal work ( not that many teens but houses) 1 but they will have a couple of months work rather than languishing on under £100 a week universal credit while sat in their bedroom

Yes, because everyone lives near a farm 🙄

We were not even on about teens here... just general unemployed which could be people in their 60s. Do you think people in their 60s would be doing fruit picking?

Timeforachange26 · Today 19:15

XenoBitch · Today 19:11

Yes, because everyone lives near a farm 🙄

We were not even on about teens here... just general unemployed which could be people in their 60s. Do you think people in their 60s would be doing fruit picking?

Not everyone no. But I'm sure there are some that do.

Fimofriend · Today 19:37

JenniferBooth · Today 16:25

The farm had a bus Is that singular or plural Do all the farms do it?

I haven't worked in that business for years but yes back then, approx. ten years ago I know of one other nearby farm who did the same and my coworkers all talked as if it was completely normal. I know that the farm I worked for still has at least one bus. I don't know if they had or have more than one. I only used it myself a couple of times when we had teambuilding and also for a Christmas party.

The thing is that a lot of farms are quite large these days. The farm I worked for used to be three farms, and they kept expanding both land wise and product wise, so it isn't really surprising that they own a bus.

Fimofriend · Today 19:45

Persephonia1966 · 15/10/2026 19:27

I would also question this
I also heard from a science professor at a British university that the majority of his team was foreign because most of the Brits with an education in science simply didn't know maths on a sufficiently high level.

Britains education results are actually pretty good compared to the rest of the world. The UK scores in the top ranks of the global Pisa ranking for maths (It's basically the UK, Estonia and all the rest are Asian countries in the top ten). At a higher education level the science training/research and the connections top universities have to businesses are usually cited by industry leaders as one of the things the UK has going for it for industry (countered by the high electricity costs, lack of space, Brexit etc). That doesn't mean that employers won't want to recruit from overseas as well because if you want someone who is the very best in a very specialist area you spread the net wide. The UK is also very attractive to very talented people from India/Asia. Partly because the pay is better. Partly because of the high regard its Universities are held in ironically. So UK graduates are competing against the very best of much more populous countries (who to be fair take maths very seriously and also do very well in the Pisa rankings). We have issues
But it is nonsense to suggest that science degrees from top UK universities are looked down on or providing substantially inferior graduates.

Noone is looking down on British education. There are just certain subjects that apparently don't interest that many British students and that is ok. People should study what interests them but it means that sometimes project leaders have to look abroad for someone with the skill set their research group needs.

Though, of course, this is much harder now because of Brexit and the large cost of moving a family to Britain.

GutsyBee · Today 19:47

Didn't know mumsnet had Russian bots!

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