FOUR out of FIVE new jobs went to foreigners in the past decade, new report reveals

Indeed. That's without looking at where the vacancies lie and the lack of skills/geographical match between job seekers and available roles. Its not much help to Dave who's been laid off from his factory in Hull that there are vacancies in slough for dental hygienists.

I can tell you that it is completely impossible to get ethnic British people to work as fruit pickers. When I worked for a farm, they all laughed when I asked where they advertised in Britain. Once, in 2014-2016, I can't remember when, they contacted a job centre that informed the farm that they would send 45 people for an interview. 7 turned up. Only 4:were physically capable of doing the job. Ie. only 4 were not obese. The farm had a bus and was willing to pick up people several places in the city centre each day and drive them home in the afternoon.

It is beneath Brits apparently. A lot of them have the same reaction to jobs like cleaners and carers.

I remember reading on Facebook that a non-British woman who was a manager got told by the company receptionist, that she ( the receptionist) had voted for Brexit because she hoped she could then get the manager's job. The manager had a Master's degree and spoke several languages. The receptionist had her GCSEs and only spoke English.

I also heard from a science professor at a British university that the majority of his team was foreign because most of the Brits with an education in science simply didn't know maths on a sufficiently high level. It was also a problem to find Brits who can do large scale programming. Ie. they cannot handle large data sets. He felt that the problem is that they students pay for their education and therefore the universities have a tendency to let students pass who really really shouldn't pass or to lower the level of the exam so that everyone can pass.

My point here is that the problem isn't the foreigners.

Quite we need the foreigners! So many Brits just don't have the work ethic or any skills.

And the 'locals' don't want to do the so called 'low skilled' job you are describing.

Yet brits go over to Australia and pick fruit there

So maybe we just need to put a few wooden Kangeroos in the fields and people will be putting their playstations down and running to the fields.

They are going to experience Australia, and the fruit picking finances their stay. They are not going because they have ran out of job prospects in the UK.

Young, generally middle-class Brits go backpacking around Australia and do fruit picking/seasonal work to help fund their trip.

If you cannot see the difference between a young, middle-class Brit taking a gap year and a working-class parent who needs to be home to do the school run and isn't allowed to leave their HA house empty, I don't know how to help explain it to you.

Yes, this. I saw this yesterday on the Telegraph website and you can imagine the frothing.

But there is something very wrong when we have a million unemployed youngsters (and that doesn't include the ones on disability benefits who could work, given some adjustments) and the ones not signing on at all. Nobody should be getting a visa unless they have skills that we cannot find ourselves.

I realise there is some work that British born/resident people don't want to do like care work, so there have to be some sectors which have some special rules but why do we need so many foreign nurses? Or postpeople? Or rail workers? Or even office cleaners? And then there are the skilled areas like tech/IT work. Do we really need to import people to work on IT helpdesks? Can we really not train some of our own intelligent graduates/school leavers?

And then there are people who were here and working but couldn't get their visa extended and had to leave! Why do they have to leave when they were already contributing and paying tax - and yet we then allow in other immigrants.

I agree employers want deferential people who won't argue.

Well I think they are going because they ran out of job prospects in the UK. They go to Australia and hope they'll gain experiences there which will help with the job hunt when they return - or they'll find more meaningful work there.

Most jobs of this nature are bombarded with applications from graduates because nearly every job which could be entry level sticks a "needs 1-2 years experience" in to weed them out and try to stop themselves getting 500 applications.

There has to be a reason people didn't apply.

Of course. That's why graduates are applying for 200 jobs and only getting 2 interviews and no jobs. From retail to hospitality to actual graduate jobs in their field.

If immigrants are taking those jobs and our own graduates are unemployed as a consequence, something has to change fast.

It is not because they are lazy.

And it's no good saying "well they'll just have to do care work". Even if they did, that would only give jobs to some of them. And would you want a young male graduate wiping your arse when you're 90? I don't!

Yes I saw a job being advertised the other week where they wanted at least two years experience and the salary was £23K for full time! Correct me if I am wrong, but that's not minimum wage and so is unlawful!

Where on earth are you getting working class parents from? How about working class teens living nearby

Also that stat is from 2021 when the job market was very different.

That isn't the case now.

It's the working class people are we are worried about. It's the benefits class who need to get the jobs. You can't be working class if you don't fulfil the core part of the definition

According to many on here the unemployed are working class

No they don't. Do you know how much a flight to Oz costs? Do you really think that someone in the UK who is struggling to find work is using their paltry UC money to go to the other side of the world to get a fruit picking job to put on their CV?

There was a job advertised in my town... NMW retail job in a vape shop. They wanted 3 years of "vape experience" (whatever that means).

What is "benefits class"?
Many people work and also claim benefits.

They’d have to save every penny for about a year.

So there are statistics on how many of them are also claiming benefits, or is it just pure speculation??

Lots of defunct care companies..... If only we could get the government audited.

Yep, and somehow have to manage work search commitments and visit the job centre every 2 weeks... from Australia 🙄

My friend owns and runs a shop and does this. It's not because she wants or needs 3 years' experience; it is to put off the applicants who gaze gormlessly at you as if you're speaking an alien language when you ask them to mop the floor, or the ones you need to take 10 minutes to explain to them why tins should be put on the shelf label-forward.

She doesn't like employing young people with no experience, not because they're young or British, but because she's taken too many chances on them only to find out they have no life skills and very little in the way of common sense. They want to work; they apply in droves when she advertises, but she's very reluctant to give any more of them a chance, hence advertising for 3 years' experience.