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To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

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Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 00:44

I really liked her music and she seemed like a nice person: her Imagination Library came to my borough recently. I was very sad to hear she'd died.
But was very disappointed to read this. The statements she made about trans people deserving respect, no issue with those.
But minimising the reasonable concerns women have about being forced to let men in their toilets was wrong.
I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.
Parton had connections with drag queens and I wonder if that's the lens she saw transwomen through : not an excuse but might partially explain.

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Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 23:30

over50andfab · Yesterday 21:54

So you’re saying trans people can still continue to exist, identifying as the gender they align with. Some people don’t think this.

But they can. They totally can wear whatever they like, as long as they use any facilities relevant to their sex.

Keeptoiletssafe · Today 01:15

Good things to come out of this is hopefully more places will invest in proper regulated accessible toilets. These should be the most well cared for and monitored toilets. Anyone can use these who needs to if they are for both sexes (they usually are to meet the needs of when the carer is a different sex to an adult non ambulant user). I would love to see a new accessible design in single sex accommodation as many non ambulant users would benefit from single sex toilet design too. Many non ambulant users are independent and can transfer themselves. This larger toilet compartment would be great for parents with pushchairs too.

Differentforgirls · Today 06:06

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 23:05

@Differentforgirls re prisons. Lots of men break the law in toilets. Look back at my posts. That’s why we have regulations, sexual offence law, legislation and standards that try and mitigate against harm in toilets. In prison you will find men who have committed the worst offences.

There’s not much appetite for prosecuting men having consensual sex with men in toilets like there was in the 80s and 90s when hundreds were prosecuted (in what would be unthinkable nowadays, police laid traps and even drilled holes in ceilings to photograph men), but it’s still illegal. The more modern answer to cottaging (Victorians built toilets to resemble cottages) is to close all the toilets down. This affects women, the elderly and disabled more. Estimates reckon we’ve lost more public toilets than we’ve retained from misuse (sex, drugs and vandalism) and the cost of maintaining them. The above isn’t homophobic, it’s factual.

Now provision in venues and businesses is relied on more for public sanitation. There are even certain community schemes run by the council for this. There’s still a lot of urinating in the streets (not something you can go to prison for unless there’s other factors, but you can be fined). But there always were men aiming at buildings (it’s why many buildings have urine deflectors like the Bank of England).

Now on to men in women’s toilets. I have so many examples. However I will concentrate on some examples that are relevant to this thread.
For example, this man who said he was a transwoman:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ian-wright-british-transport-police-birmingham-crown-court-b2286717.html
And this man who said he identified as a woman:
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/paedophile-secretly-filmed-women-public-28737673.amp

Since the Supreme Court made it clear women’s toilets were always for women, these men no longer can argue that being a transwoman (albeit for the time they are in the women’s toilets) means they have access to women’s toilets. Women are very reticent to speak out. It has made it much easier now - the amount of protesting has handily made it crystal clear to everybody. It makes it safer for everyone as single sex toilets can retain the safest designs.

Whose policing them?

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