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To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

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Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 00:44

I really liked her music and she seemed like a nice person: her Imagination Library came to my borough recently. I was very sad to hear she'd died.
But was very disappointed to read this. The statements she made about trans people deserving respect, no issue with those.
But minimising the reasonable concerns women have about being forced to let men in their toilets was wrong.
I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.
Parton had connections with drag queens and I wonder if that's the lens she saw transwomen through : not an excuse but might partially explain.

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 10:38

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 10:26

Easy. Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan …

Ah, if only the women of Afghanistan could just say they’re men and identify their way out of their oppression. Wonder why they can’t.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 10:45

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 10:26

Easy. Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan …

What a load of poppycock! TIM are men (the M part), and as they are men, they are most certainly prioritised over women and girls in those countries, and the others.

Add Iran too, when women and girls are brutalised, and even murdered when they dare shore a hair of their head.

What a load of weasel words, to tell women it’s raining when it is simply someone peeing down their backs.

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 10:47

Since are are going international:

“We have learned from so many mistakes in the past that women are at a greater risk for sexual assault and violence if they don’t have separate bathrooms,” says Amnesty International’s deputy director for Europe and Central Asia.
https://qz.com/692711/the-radically-simple-way-to-make-female-refugees-safer-from-sexual-assault-decent-bathrooms

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 10:49

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 10:32

UK

Hahaghahahahaha. UK unsafe for TIM. You’ll be saying Australia next….

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 10:49

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 10:38

Ah, if only the women of Afghanistan could just say they’re men and identify their way out of their oppression. Wonder why they can’t.

I don’t think many men are claiming to be women in Afghanistan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 10:55

Bit early...

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 10:56

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 10:45

What a load of poppycock! TIM are men (the M part), and as they are men, they are most certainly prioritised over women and girls in those countries, and the others.

Add Iran too, when women and girls are brutalised, and even murdered when they dare shore a hair of their head.

What a load of weasel words, to tell women it’s raining when it is simply someone peeing down their backs.

exactly.

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:39

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 10:38

Ah, if only the women of Afghanistan could just say they’re men and identify their way out of their oppression. Wonder why they can’t.

The question was about TIM, not women. Everyone knows women in Afghanistan are suffering.

But to suggest that TIM are prioritised everywhere is a ridiculous statement when that in some of the countries I mentioned being transgender is punishable by death. This is separate entirely from the crime of homosexuality, also punishable by death.

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:40

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 10:49

I don’t think many men are claiming to be women in Afghanistan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Um …

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 11:41

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:40

Um …

No other words for it really. Hilarious eh?

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:42

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 10:45

What a load of poppycock! TIM are men (the M part), and as they are men, they are most certainly prioritised over women and girls in those countries, and the others.

Add Iran too, when women and girls are brutalised, and even murdered when they dare shore a hair of their head.

What a load of weasel words, to tell women it’s raining when it is simply someone peeing down their backs.

Did I even mention Iran?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 11:50

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:39

The question was about TIM, not women. Everyone knows women in Afghanistan are suffering.

But to suggest that TIM are prioritised everywhere is a ridiculous statement when that in some of the countries I mentioned being transgender is punishable by death. This is separate entirely from the crime of homosexuality, also punishable by death.

It’s actually legal in Iran, as it’s seen as preferable to being homosexual which is obviously illegal and punishable by death as you say. So a lot of gay/gender non conforming men have been pressured into believing they are in the wrong body and gender reassignment as a ‘cure’. There’s human rights reports on it.

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:53

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 10:45

What a load of poppycock! TIM are men (the M part), and as they are men, they are most certainly prioritised over women and girls in those countries, and the others.

Add Iran too, when women and girls are brutalised, and even murdered when they dare shore a hair of their head.

What a load of weasel words, to tell women it’s raining when it is simply someone peeing down their backs.

Wait. You’re suggesting that just transgender men in these countries rank higher than women because they’re … men?

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 11:58

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

MNdrama · Yesterday 12:20

Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 13:53

You do realise that trans women are biologically men, whatever they'd prefer to be, and there have been cases of them attacking women in toilets? As well as going there for fetishistic reasons, shooting videos inside for that purpose?

Have you heard about what transwoman Katie Dolatowski tried to do in a female toilet?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/

Wow. "You do realise that trans women are biologically men, whatever they'd prefer to be"......

Wow. You really need to get yourself indoctrinated. "Whatever they'd prefer to be
..."

Fucking delusional statement. Who hurt you?

MNdrama · Yesterday 12:31

Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 18:04

How is it a 'despicable smear' to criticise one documented thing she said?

Seriously. How do you not understand that people are not criticising you because you're criticising someone who died. It's because you're being transphobic. It couldn't be more simple. Get help

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 13:30

MNdrama · Yesterday 12:31

Seriously. How do you not understand that people are not criticising you because you're criticising someone who died. It's because you're being transphobic. It couldn't be more simple. Get help

It’s not simple. Toilet design is actually very complicated. It’s difficult to get right. That’s why so many public toilets have closed.

This quote from a very good book about world sanitation stood out for me:

‘Anthropologists and sociologists should be infesting public toilets. There’s nothing else in human society quite like them. Not in society, not quite out of it. Needed but rarely demanded. A place where all sorts of human needs and habitats intersect: fear, disgust, conversation, grooming, sex. It’s an
ambiguous space that is not quite in the public eye, though the public uses it. A place of refuge and sociability: of necessity and criminality.’ Rose George, ‘The Big Necessity’ (2008)

The difference is the demanding! That’s off the scale now.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 14:01

MNdrama · Yesterday 12:20

Wow. "You do realise that trans women are biologically men, whatever they'd prefer to be"......

Wow. You really need to get yourself indoctrinated. "Whatever they'd prefer to be
..."

Fucking delusional statement. Who hurt you?

Well, we know that Katie Dolatowski hurt some young girl, or girls, when he was given the opportunity to do so. Physically and emotionally, probably in a way that will inflict life long damage to his victim/s.

One of many men who prey on women and girls where they are easily cornered, and vulnerable. I think the question is why some people seem to want to give men an easy opportunity to hurt women and girls. Why don’t some people care about women and girls? ‘Oh, he’s different all the other boys’ doesn’t quite cut it.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:04

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 14:01

Well, we know that Katie Dolatowski hurt some young girl, or girls, when he was given the opportunity to do so. Physically and emotionally, probably in a way that will inflict life long damage to his victim/s.

One of many men who prey on women and girls where they are easily cornered, and vulnerable. I think the question is why some people seem to want to give men an easy opportunity to hurt women and girls. Why don’t some people care about women and girls? ‘Oh, he’s different all the other boys’ doesn’t quite cut it.

Anyone can go into a supermarket toilet.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 14:28

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:04

Anyone can go into a supermarket toilet.

That’s your response to a sexual attack on a 10 year old? Jesus wept.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 14:46

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:04

Anyone can go into a supermarket toilet.

Before all this gender ideology, the police would probably have been called on any creepy man lying in wait in the women’s toilets, or following women or girls inside.

Men opportunistically lying in wait for or following female targets will certainly meet less pushback now as there has been a concerted effort to undermine the safety of women and girls. Those sinister claims that some man might regard himself as a woman. Clearly preposterous, but to what aim? Thankfully, I think one of KD’s (huge dude) victims was rescued by her dad.

Imagine all the self identified ‘kind’ and ‘good’ people not giving two hoots that men are being enabled to attack girls like this. Not so ‘kind’ and ‘good’ towards women and girls just wanting to navigate the public space in safety and comfort. They have their echoes throughout history.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 14:58

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:53

Wait. You’re suggesting that just transgender men in these countries rank higher than women because they’re … men?

Oh, dearie, dear, me. Trans identified men/males, TIM.

Interestingly, in Iran men ‘identifying’ as women are not recognised as being women on paper if they don’t do the whole shebang, inside out purse created from their meat, two veg etc. etc. Full cosmetic surgery jobbie on their male genitals. Still doesn’t turn those men into women of course.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 15:00

SpiderInMyShoe · Yesterday 11:42

Did I even mention Iran?

Well I did. When I wrote. ‘Add Iran too’… . It is quite simple really.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 15:24

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 14:46

Before all this gender ideology, the police would probably have been called on any creepy man lying in wait in the women’s toilets, or following women or girls inside.

Men opportunistically lying in wait for or following female targets will certainly meet less pushback now as there has been a concerted effort to undermine the safety of women and girls. Those sinister claims that some man might regard himself as a woman. Clearly preposterous, but to what aim? Thankfully, I think one of KD’s (huge dude) victims was rescued by her dad.

Imagine all the self identified ‘kind’ and ‘good’ people not giving two hoots that men are being enabled to attack girls like this. Not so ‘kind’ and ‘good’ towards women and girls just wanting to navigate the public space in safety and comfort. They have their echoes throughout history.

Staff in a supermarket don't have time to police toilets.

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 16:02

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 15:24

Staff in a supermarket don't have time to police toilets.

Computer says no, does it, when women and girls are mentioned?

Gosh, I know. Maybe they’d all be ever so busy intervening in a ‘misgendering’ of a man who wants all to act as if he is a woman. A string of blue lights on their way, with sirens abuzz. Not a surprise to see the female victims don’t matter to so many who cheer this bs along.

They have a name for this faux, selective responses that are not in good faith. Other than disingenuous.

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