AIBU to believe Charles Spencer after watching this BBC clip?

She can post where she likes. Just hide the thread
and get a grip.

YABU to care. Both Charles are immoral hypocrites. CS has had many affairs so not sure about judging CW. Two toffs arguing about something from 30 years ago is pathetic, off with both their heads.

I think you can believe he’s telling the truth, but also think he’s a shit for saying it publicly to sell his book. Both sides can be shitty and unlikeable.

Maybe he did maybe he didn’t but it’s a shit thing to do to bring this up after all these decades just to make some cash

No I don't. I do believe that Charles Spencer is totally obnoxious though. He's been trading on Diana forever.

Charles X would have more sense than to be brutally honest with Charles Spencer.

Now this I agree with completely.

There are no winners here. Spencer wants to make money with a book and wasn't a great brother. Charles was an awful husband, so who knows what he said. Let the woman rest in peace, she wasn't perfect either. I don't know many people, especially younger ones, who are that interested in all this, which is probably the biggest problem for the royals.

@hardshoulderr "He unceremoniously threw his dads wife out of their home when he died. Stuff in bin bags"

It was a joint decision by Charles Spencer and Princess Diana to evict their stepmother (Raine McCorquodale) following their father's death in 1992. They disliked her with a passion and nicknamed her "Acid Raine". Raine was wealthy (and very well connected) in her own right and went to live in her Mayfair town house, so she was hardly destitute.

He sounds beleivable but he is trying to sell a book. Quite frankly even if he did say it. She was his ex wife and they had a very acrimonious split. There was no love lost there,and it’s been nearly 30 years.and the moment was very emotionally charged, who the hell can remember what was said 30 years ago

and what’s the upshot. Charles didn’t like his ex. Plenty don’t.

I expect he did say it, and probably worse about her over the years. He is far from the first cheating bastard to hate his victim.

I have no love of the monarchy . But I can't believe that Charles would be so indiscreet by saying such a thing to Spencer . He would be so cautious about what he said or how he handled this , knowing how hostile people were to him regarding Diana . And how popular she was . Why would he be so foolish as to say such negative things to Diana's brother who was no friends of his .

If he did feel any satisfaction about Diana's death he would have kept it to himself or only confided in Camilla.

Charles Spencer is trying to portray himself as some kind of reasonable decent guy . But his divorces were hostile and some of his children don't speak to him . He wasn't invited to his daughter's wedding.
Another disgruntled aristo betraying his family to make money from a book .

Whether KC did or didn’t, publishing it 30 years on is deliberately unpleasant to Spencer’s ‘blood family’ his nephews.

Even if KC did say those things, it was the worst period of his life and it was a private call. How would we all fare if our worst moments were made public for everyone to judge?

IMO CS comes out of this looking bad. What is to be gained from this book, other than make money?

I think they're both hideous men who've treated women terribly, but yes, I believe him. To be honest, I can't see how Diana's death would have been a shock to Charles Windsor.

Ffs, it’s been nearly 30 years and this guy is still dining out on his dead sister.
I wonder why Spencer, who has I believe three ex wives and seven children to support in the lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed, would be writing s scandalous book with various media deals on top after all this time? It’s mystifying. 😐

The thing is we all kind of know everything there was / is to know about Charles and Diana, her death, the funeral, aftermath etc. Those of us old enough. So a book about that, 30 years after, ain't gonna sell unless there's new gossip. Spencer has therefore added a few fibs.

Are you serious ?

We only know what the Windsors want us to know.

We wouldn’t know about Andrew and Epstein if it weren’t for the partial release of the Epstein files in the USA . The Windsors only acted once we knew some of Andrew’s activities . They been covering up for decades. Epstein was first convicted of soliciting a minor in 2008.

They'd still be covering up now if they could.

We’ve had 30 years of the Windsors PR working against Diana in order to try to boost Camilla.

I think you are wrong that there will be little interest in the book.

Is there anyone who has gone through a messy and acrimonious divorce who would not be happy with the demise of their ex?

I don't believe LDS was the innocent unaware naive child we are and or were sold. "What attracted you to the immensely wealthy and future king?"

Why do I think of Jane Seymour and the Norfolk's in Henry 8th time when I think of the Spencers?

All those divorces must have been costly and now he has a new wife to fork out for, he probably needs the money - what else is a profligate to do?

100%. I absolutely believe that this happened as Charles Spencer described. I was really unimpressed by the Palace statement with its insinuation that CS's grief must have caused him to misremember - without stating outright that he was wrong. If what CS said was false why not just say that?

They must be really upset that the decades of gaslighting and undermining Diana and boosting their own popularity has been set back by CS accusations. The cold fury shows in this statement.

But the default RF position is to protect its principals, either by covering up the truth or by outright lying. When the accusations against Andrew first came to light, the palace statement was that these were 'false and without foundation'. So they - the spokespersons of our Head of State - were happy to smear a sex trafficking victim as a liar in order to protect Andrew (and are protecting him to this day).

Yes it will be hurting Diana's children, which in turn will affect their own children, as they will pick up on the stress being caused to their parents, over this. It is wrong what Charles Spencer has done.

Good grief , this thread, it’s been 30 years, I doubt either can remember accurately what was said, and both believe their own truth

the only thing that would hurt William and Harry is Charles writing a salacious novel and trying to profit from her. Harry probably feels vindicated he’s not the only one who behaves so poorly and William raises an eyebrow

charles and Diana were divorced. They disliked each other intensely. Her dying didn’t change that. It’s hardly news to her children.

And all that described above is far worse than having divorces .

The attempt to paint Spencer as unreliable because he’s been divorced several times is pathetic .

We have solid proof that the Windsors lie and cover up far more serious issues than Charles’s very shocking remark about his deceased ex wife.

I’m not convinced that the palace is particularly worried about that remark though. They know Diana is favoured over Charles .
There’s more there in that book that is panicking them .