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Reddog1 · 22/09/2026 13:20

A long, interesting thread.

No fan of Charles Spencer but I suppose I can see why he might have waited.

His second etc wives knew what they were getting into following his behaviour towards the first one, but were probably keen to be royal adjacent - so I’ve not much sympathy for them tbh. That’s in response to the “he’s been married twenty times” posts.

I’m none too keen on the other Charles either and now that slug Piers Morgan has entered the chat. What a trio.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 22/09/2026 13:03

sesquipedalian · 19/09/2026 09:35

IF this is true, why has it only come out now? If the Earl of Spencer had said something at the time, the papers would have been all over it, and it would have been very damaging to the royal family, who were at a low ebb at the time. I’m sorry, but I think this is a convenient and sensationalist remembering to sell a few books. Let’s not forget, this is a man who wasn’t even invited to his own daughters’ weddings.

I can think of several reasons he wouldn't have said anything at the time, can't you?

For the sake of her poor children for one, probably a sense of duty towards the royal family / decorum, for it being seen as spiteful and strange to discuss it so soon after her death, to take the focus away from his anger towards the media which was his agenda at the time. He made some quite pointed anti RF comments at her funeral.

I'm not saying it's true or that he's even a credible source, but not saying anything public at the time is not a reason to disbelieve him.

XigDoop · 22/09/2026 12:26

Mark Bolland worked wonders rehabbing Charles and Camillas PR.

nomas · 22/09/2026 10:51

Sartre · 22/09/2026 09:58

I believed him all along and don’t even need to see the clip in order to. I also believe Harry.

Me too.

Sartre · 22/09/2026 09:58

I believed him all along and don’t even need to see the clip in order to. I also believe Harry.

RhannionKPSS · 22/09/2026 09:58

Interesting how Spencer has waited until both Queen Elizabeth and her private secretary Robert Fellows ( husband to Diana’s sister Jane ) died before bringing out his book

Goatsarebest · 21/09/2026 22:27

There is one pisitive thing to think about from this. If he is so desperate for money that he has to do this, then at least we can assume all those ex wives managed to get hold of a significant portion of his cash. Lets hope so.

Goatsarebest · 21/09/2026 22:12

Will she ever be permitted to Rest In Peace. Why is he bringing it all up now. And we have all formed our opinion on the Royals a long time ago. If you support them this is just an exaggerated mis remembered irrelevance. If you don't support them it just confirms what you think about them.
Will anyone actually buy the book.
Just leave her to RIP.

Helenbelena · 21/09/2026 22:06

mumumental · 21/09/2026 08:32

Gosh look at all the smearing going on of Spencer. I’m thinking Palace aides in here at times.

Lots of Palace employees on this thread!

Bitsostuff · 21/09/2026 10:07

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/09/2026 09:48

He said he’d protect the Princes. This is the opposite.

The princes are well into adulthood. Perhaps thats why this is coming out now rather than 30 years ago?

Ukisgaslit · 21/09/2026 10:04

mumumental · 21/09/2026 08:32

Gosh look at all the smearing going on of Spencer. I’m thinking Palace aides in here at times.

lol
If the tone is snide it rings a bell doesn’t it ?
They are certainly stupid enough to think that smearing will work - rather than digging a deeper hole .

hourglass2 · 21/09/2026 08:40

Reallyneedsaholiday · 20/09/2026 07:48

When there’s no “proof” people will simply believe the worst of someone they dislike, and the best of someone they do. No matter who they are. Personally I wouldn’t trust Earl Spencer to fart without shitting himself, let alone anything that comes out of his mouth. But more than that, even if it WAS true, it’s despicable to drag it all up again for those boys, 30 years later. The man is a charlatan and a vile piece of work.

Yep agreed.

Walkerzoo · 21/09/2026 08:37

Maybe once Spencer admits how many wives and affairs he has had (whilst one wife was pregnant), how his daughter didn't want him at her wedding ... I wonder what his wives would say about him....

He wasn't there for Diana when she was alive, so why now?

So Harry. Why don't you go and research after school clubs as that is another minefield in amongst the school drop chaos.

mumumental · 21/09/2026 08:32

Gosh look at all the smearing going on of Spencer. I’m thinking Palace aides in here at times.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 21/09/2026 07:05

rememberingthem · 19/09/2026 10:43

Earl spencer is as loose with the truth as his sister was and his nephew is!

Well exactly. For all of his talk at Diana's funeral of blood family and protecting his nephews, his own personal life is a car crash. Isn’t he on wife no 4, following 3 divorces? 2 of his ex wives have accused him of cruelty and emotional torture, his first wife became anorexic and claimed that he constantly accused her of being fat, having given birth to 4 children. 2 of those children have now married and he wasn’t even invited to their weddings. To not be invited to one of your children’s weddings would be unusual. To not be invited to two is extraordinary. Burrell and Spencer seem to be two of the most toxic people in Diana’s short life. None of which excuses the now King’s stupidity in marrying her in the first place… If this was being played out on the Jeremy Kyle show people would, rightly, be rolling their eyes :)

Constantrunner · 21/09/2026 00:39

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:56

Sell a Renoir or savage his sister ? Wow !

Honestly that poster is wrong. Charles Spencer has sold paintings before from his private art collection worth an estimated £85 million. He has an estimated £40 million in liquid assets. This is not about money.

He says as a historian, it's about setting the historical record straight. And yes I believe him.

Freshrain · 21/09/2026 00:22

BakeOut · 19/09/2026 22:46

Christ, I suddenly feel really bloody sad for William.
He had an emotionally unstable mother. I know she loved him, but she was not a stable mother. He's got one fucking shit of a brother. A sister in law whom he hates. He must find his father really very difficult, I think most of us can see that Charles would make a difficult father. He would have phenomenally conflicted feelings towards Camilla and I've always wondered how he has ever even managed to stand in the same room as her. His paternal uncle is a paedophile who has committed sex crimes. And now his maternal uncle has written a book that will surely deeply upset him.
I don't care that he has immense material wealth. He is a human being who never asked to be born in to the royal family. And no amount of wealth can buy peace in your heart.

I agree.
Add in to that he can never do anything without being filmed / photographed / or quoted. No possibility of retiring, or stepping down from the role, like a Prime Minister could, for example.

XigDoop · 21/09/2026 00:17

Its hard to believe but it's interesting that a couple of normally quite sycophantic journos have confirmed it.

CrazyMidget · 20/09/2026 22:58

shecanbe · 20/09/2026 19:08

I wonder if Charles said something like, " well one day we'll all move forward and all this will be forgotten," rather than, "We will soon forget her?" In an emotionally charged situation you could imagine how nuance could be misinterpreted. Also, CW was probably not the most adept at self-expression in emotional situations. I don't know.

It would be such a terrible thing to say that I did wonder if something was misheard or misinterpreted down the phone. I have to say, though, not only does Spencer seem very credible, Richard Kay says it chimes with his recollections at the time. It's also notable that although the Palace put out a statement, said statement did not deny that he said it.

If he did say it, then that is beyond appalling and he deserves to have it come out. It would be despicable enough to say it to a third-party, such as a courtier, say, or privately to his own family, but to say it to the deceased's BROTHER! 😱

If Charles did say it, I reckon Diana would be doing a happy dance wherever she is.

CrazyMidget · 20/09/2026 22:52

So many of the Royal Family and Diana's family are just awful. (Well, her brother and deceased parents.) William and Kate are blessedly normal. So many of the generation above them are just rotten. Apart from the obvious, like Prince Andrew, Princess Michael is a pure old-fasioned Nazi from another era, and I can't believe she wore a Blackamoor brooch to meet Meghan.

It will be a good day for the monarchy when William and Kate come to the throne.

Harry, of course, is the gift that keeps on giving.

BakeOut · 20/09/2026 22:40

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:56

Sell a Renoir or savage his sister ? Wow !

How is he savaging his sister?
I think Diana would be pleased to hear him exposing Charles in this way.

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TriciaA1991 · 20/09/2026 21:28

You are being unreasonable.
He is being unreasonable -
to his dead sister
to his nephews (that he promised to protect)
and if there was ANY truth in it, Spencer would have spouted it at the time.
He wants money for all the women HE has mistreated (four wives) and seven children plus his estate ......

LivingTheDreamish · 20/09/2026 19:58

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:56

Sell a Renoir or savage his sister ? Wow !

As I say, not a pleasant man...

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:56

LivingTheDreamish · 20/09/2026 19:34

I do believe him because why would he lie? And it does sound like the sort of thing King Charles would say in a fit of rage (I do like him BTW, just being realistic about his shortcomings).

Charles Spencer is not a pleasant man and has an expensive divorce to fund, so if the choice was between publishing this hurtful memoir or selling a Renoir, I can see why this was his choice.

Given the lineage, I suspect we have more reasons than we will ever know to be thankful to the current POW for her influence over our next two kings.

Sell a Renoir or savage his sister ? Wow !

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