Aibu feeling uneasy about men taking little girls to the toilet in the womens toilet?

It’s selfish and entitled is what it is . My father managed perfectly with me and my sister bringing us to men’s when we were kids . What the hell do you think goes on in men’s toilets that is so traumatic ? Even if they catch a glimpse of a mans body that is not traumatic

This would be solved by getting rid or urinals. Men don't need them, they don't have them at home.

Unless the woman is pissing in the sink, she doesn't need any more privacy than the lockable cubicle door.

But do keep clutching at straws, it's getting quite amusing.

I love this... and may steal it (sorry)

"Good men stay out, so bad men stand out"

That is it exactly for me. Can't send our girls to the women's toilet any more. We wouldn't send them into the men's toilet, because of men... now we can't send them into the women's, because of men. Their independent world gets smaller, they stay "infantilised" for longer.

Make men's toilets more like women's. Make men's toilets safe for all. Stop providing "solutions" for men that use women's spaces.

He should take her to the men’s - she’s with him so she’s safe.

@stillhiding1990

Creepy as hell a woman thinking little girls should be in a male toilet - disgusting

there fixed that for you

…and the problem with that is? Nobody is waving them around, you see the back of them and then (horrors) might hear someone urinating. It’s hardly the end of days.

"Parenting in the most appropriate toilet"? Lol.
By that logic, that would be mean a little girl is safest in the women's toilet instead of going into the gents, with multiple men pissing at the urinals for instance.

Men's. She will be with her father.
Young children can go with their parent to use facilities based on the parent's sex.

Time for the what about women washing moon cups in the sink comments.

Are you disabled? Because I am and I still think a man with a female child should use them rather than impose himself on the ladies loos. Ideally of course, there should be a single user option that isn't disabled access. But there often isn't.

When I was very little, I am going to guess about five, my dad took my brother and I swimming and used the men's changing rooms, and I saw an adult stranger's penis. It actually did quite disturb and upset me for a while. I am obviously fine now, but it wasn't nice at the time (and we are a family who are fairly comfortable with nudity, so I had glimpsed brother and dad naked before and understood men had different bodies).

Because of the nature of men's toilets, with urinals, I don't think it's OK to take little girls in there and risk them being exposed to full frontal male nudity. It's OK if the gents is cubicle only - that's different.

I also agree that guys shouldn't be in the women's toilets unless there is absolutely no alternative.

Therefore the least worst outcome in this situation is to use the disabled loo (I understand the objections to this, but there is no ideal solution sometimes) . Obviously in many cases this doubles as a family room so that's it's exact purpose! Even when it doesn't, I think using it is the least worst option.

And demand more safe, gender neutral toilets and changing spaces, to acknowledge the fact that dads have daughters, women have sons, people have opposite sex partners who require assistance with toileting, etc etc.

Are you suggesting mothers should take their young sons to the gents? In the end, it is the boy who is using the toilet.

But what is the big deal about men pissing in urinals ? Who bloody cares . A little boy will be exposed to the same sight going in. A few men’s backs facing a urinal . So what ? It’s not that different .

So what right's does the young girl have? Does she have the right to use a woman's toilet? Does she have the right to have the help that she requires from her parent? I don't think men taking their daughters to a women's toilet are using the opportunity to enforce their perceived rights. I think most men would rather not encounter a mob of hostile women, but it's the lesser of two evils of taking the kid to a men's toilet. I think this has become such an issue as it's somehow merged with women objecting to men identifying as women using women only spaces. That I can understand but I see the scenario that OP raised as totally different.

No man should be in a women's toilet. Tells you a lot about the entitlement of some men. I've only come across it once and I told him to get out. He tried to argue with me but I could see he wasn't 100% he was right anyway and he got out.

His little girl bursting for a pee takes precedence over some nosy toilet user wanting to make both father and daughter feel bad.

Or at least it will if he's a decent, caring father.

You’re not answering my question at all. Why do you think little girls in the men’s toilets is less traumatic than a fully clothed dad with his little girl in the women’s? What end of days are you afraid of?

I think it’s really naive to think all the strange men in the men’s toilets are good guys. Surely the odds are better if an adult sees 1 clothed dad with a child than he isn’t a predator versus a little girl being forced to use the toilet in the men’s toilets with potentially half a dozen men lingering about?

It's grown women putting their wishes above that of young children.

No young girl should have to go into a adult male toliet if she doesn't want to.

It's a wise mum that doesn't let her young pboy go into a male tolet in his own and brings him to the ladies instead.

Shocked that so many grown put their own needs above that of a child.

When my DH takes DD out he will generally use a disabled loo where possible, but if not then the men’s loo. He’d feel really uncomfortable taking her to the women’s loo. And not sure what anyone thinks is going to happen to her in the men’s loo - it’s not like he’s dangling her over the communal urinal for a wee, there are cubicles.

The women in the toilet don’t know who this man is . He is a strange man and that’s that . Adult men should never ever be in female only spaces .

Which is a whole other level of disgusting anyway.

Not to mention a health risk.

I’m saying that girls have rights too. She has been hardly considered but she’s the one that needs a safe, private toilet.

And they don't know who the women are either.

They could be drugged up psychos for all anyone knows 🤷‍♂️

Nosy toilet user?

its a women,s space. He doesn't belong there.