Is the trans kids trend over? Aibu to wonder what happened to the kids caught up in it in the 2010s?

What made me different as a kid was the fact I never saw the need to conform to what everyone else was doing. I did not take drugs and sit in fields drinking like a lot of my peers, not that I was this amazing kid I just did not like the thoughts of it. I found out in later life I have Audhd so it makes sense now but I never did the dying of my hair or shaving it underneath my ponytail like a lot of my schoolfriends did, no tattoos till I was in my 40's! I got my nose pierced once and my dad told me it suited me so I removed it lol

My youngest just says people have gone back to default factory settings which while fairly amusing does seem to be correct.

I always wonders if (in addition to autism) some of the FtM was driven by the very girly/non natural aesthetic. The big lashes, fake tan etc.

I see far more girls embracing more of a 90s look at the moment and it's much less full on. Perhaps easier to fit with if you are not a girly girl without thinking you have to be something else.

I have worked in children's services for over 40 years in different roles but always with young people and families that needed support.

We had no children claiming to be trans until around until 2019 when we had 3 within 4 months on our case load. The following years it increased significantly. At one point out of a case load of 127 between the team we had 34 claiming to be trans. All but one were female claiming they were male.

From the moment the child said they were trans we had to refer to them with their new name, God forbid if we slipped up and used their 'dead name' and write our records up referring to them with their new name and gender even if the parents protested. We noticed the numbers we got of young people claiming they were trans started to decline around late 2024. We have no trans kids on our case load at the moment

All those that we had previously have reverted back to their original gender and name. Every single one. Most have kids of their own now.

These children were given every support to chahge their gender within the legal framework, their views were respected and so on.
We live in a mid size town. Most of the teens know each other, if not there is always a connection with the teens .
For me it seemed to be a fad. The only observation I can offer is all the children were either diagnosed with autism or adhd or they didnt quite fit in with their peers some how and were never quite in with the in crowd and were quite awkward with their behaviour.
I never specifically worked with children that had autism as such, all the children were in main stream or alternative provision.

I know on the feminist board the trans issue is still a live one and I am only speaking from personal expierence and not disputing other peoples views.

Incidentally we only had one furby,I think they're called. He had cat ears,cat collar and tail and meowed every time we spoke to him.The other kids couldn't quite comprehend it. The kids at his school erent bothered but at our place the children are from different schools in ghe area.His mother encouraged his behaviour. I think it started to stop when the children who stayed with us ( semi residential) took the piss and asked if he needed de fleaing when it was bath and shower time. This kid is doing ok and has now finished college and the cat kit has long hone!

Exactly. A child's body but over the age of consent.

Gosh, this is shocking. As the parent of a 21 year old with ASD and trauma who identifies as trans I am appalled that Mumsnet has a director who advocates for medical transition of young people, particularly when it is not backed by good evidence as acknowledged by NHS England. I would very much like if this person could explain their position.

It is also worth saying that The Good Law Project is losing all credibility.

To answer your question OP. It certainly seems to be on the way out in the schools around me in Greater London. But this is just from what I have noticed with my own children’s schools. Three or four years ago most schools had a small number of kids identifying as trans, all of them were probably neurodivergent. As I understand it, a couple of years ago it was no longer cool to be trans and the only kids left behind were the ones with autism 😞

I wish it had. This upcoming puberty blockers trial is going to damage a whole new cohort of children, and as per my previous post, the Chelsea and Westminster hospital is chopping off breasts and grafting forearm flesh onto abdomens at the tax payers' expense. They have had to employ tissue viability nurses to identify the inevitable tissue necrosis. It is like something out of Frankenstein's Monster.

Most have kids of their own now - how old are they? I thought teenage pregnancies were in the decline - are this group more likely to pregnant too?

The Cass Review recommended a data linkage study which would have followed up on the patients who were at the NHS Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS). This was delayed as the Adult gender services refused to cooperate but I believe it is taking place now. This study is a priority and the puberty blockers trial should be postponed until the data linkage study results are known.

Most have kids of their own now - how old are they? I thought teenage pregnancies were in the decline - are this group more likely to pregnant too?

The eldest is 22 with two kids. Im not sure who is the youngest to have children out of the ones that originally claimed they were teans but then decided they weren't.

However some of yhem have gone to uni, some have apprentices or at college
Also some of our other young people that haven't had teans issues are also parents.

To be fair 22 appears to be an average to have a couple of children in the area I live. I do understand this is against the national average.

I only work with them until they are about 17 and half but we still see most of our ex kids around so we know how they are doing.

We have had at least one male person with a transgender identity confirm on MN FWR that they received puberty blockers as an under 18 year old.

For those interested in this topic, but without firsthand experience of it, let me tell you that it is truly heartbreaking. We, who have known our children inside out since birth, have been dismissed by so-called gender experts who recommend medical transition on the basis of one or two 45 minute appointments – even when autism and trauma (including SA) are evident. It is without doubt the biggest medical scandal of our time and I think it says something that Nick Wallis, the Post Office scandal journalist, has been posting more and more about it in recent times.
If you want to understand gender dysphoria, look at anorexia. I have witnessed first hand both conditions and they are almost identical and for the life of me I cannot understand why their treatment is not also aligned.

I think years ago I used to see more older guys dressing as women, not often but when you did see am man in women's clothing out and about it would be an older man. I have two elderly male neighbours who started dressing as women fulltime during the pandemic and I see them about quite often. There is a younger trans identified man maybe early 20's locally to me I see about he seems to be quite mentally unwell though.

At the cinema the other day I saw a family; a woman, her child ( wee girl) and a man dressed almost identically to his wife and he was a massive lump of dude. It always seems to be the biggest blokes who want to be women for some reason. Anyway I did wonder when he sprung his "transition" on his poor wife, did he wait till she was pregnant or a new mum as they so often seem to?

However when I am out and about in the city I rarely see older men it's usually quite young guys.

OTOH MN has steered a very difficult course through allowing a discussion that has been banned from practically everywhere else and has seen women cancelled, losing their jobs, being dragged through employment tribunals, being threatened with rape and murder and in some cases actually assaulted by trans identifying men and even being charged with contempt of court by not referring to the man who raped them as "she".
They capitulated to the so called feminists who demanded a separate feminist board where the gender identity topic was banned. They did ban a poster who was an expert on safe guarding who raised safe guarding concerns. So it has been a bit tricky, but MN has generally facilitated discussion. Apart from Scotland, the UK is generally in a better place than Canada and Australia, for example.

I watch the documentary about Ruby Franke and was so shocked. The footage of her son at the doorbell made me cry.

I couldn't stand her DH either - he made out he had been brainwashed but he was awful and hugely creepy.

Not heard of the family you mentioned, but my DD used to watch a family vlog when she was fairly little and I was always asking her to switch it off. The parents seemed so fake and all they did was encourage hugely capitalist/ wasteful and polluting behaviour by opening tons of toys or making huge vats of slime. I agree there's likely to be some other shit that'll come out about families who (dys)function this way.

Funny you mention this, the odd MTF I’ve seen in my local shopping centre, late 40s or 50s, again, looking for attention. Behaving rather brash and then staring to see if anyone takes the bait.

I remember I worked with someone that I thought was a conspiracy theorist who insisted some people are paid to take on certain activist roles in society. Usually to illicit a negative reaction so that it can be used to paint everyone as a bigot etc. I was very dismissive but the more I see…

I think tolerated, rather than facilitated, is more accurate. I still think the decision to appoint him as a NED is wild.

I hear you re Canada et al, but the bar is in hell, it couldn't be any lower and I don't think the 'yeah but it could be worse...' is helpful. Of course this will depend on which side of the fence one sits 🤷‍♀️

Having lived with the T family member I can confirm it's mainly people wanting a fight who don't go about their business privately. My DD had a drag queen friend who under all the 'girlfriend shit' was actually quite nasty.
Nobody took any notice of cross dressing showbiz people. Danny la Rue, Lilly Savage etc.
Even my military father was very kind to the celebrity cross dresser who was from his village.
Personally I think the Stonewall input changed everything. Gays and lesbians were frequently assaulted and you all know the rest.

I suppose finding out about the Southern Poverty Law Centre scandal blew your mind!

I've just had to Google. I admit to not having heard of it, but I think you're referring to the Southern Poverty Law Center in the U.S., based on the Wikipedia article that came up?

We have had at least one male person with a transgender identity confirm on MN FWR that they received puberty blockers as an under 18 year old.

We have had at least one male person with a transgender identity claim on MN FWR that they received puberty blockers as an under 18 year old. There were many inconsistencies with his story. I didn't believe his claim about PBs.

Yes, I agree. The fact that we are slightly better here than in Australia and Canada is very small comfort. JW was appointed NED of MN in 2016 and of GLP in 2021. I know nothing else about him, but it does seem that there is a conflict of interest there.