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Whats the point of consent and asking permission if you get lied to

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · 08/08/2026 17:52

Whats the point of consent and permission ? friends meal and they cover the cost, they said here is x amount get what you want, so permission is asked what the limit is eg £20 and i can get whatever food / takeaway with it, the yes permission is given that i can buy what i want within the budget.

turns out a day or two after wards a sarcastic comment was made because i had 2 jacket potatoes with different toppings, so i said why is that an issue and it turns out that they still thought id get one instead of two ,

so i said i asked permission of what the budget was and i did ask what i could get then all i got was oh id still thought you would get 1 so i said why then say i can get x why not just say and be honest.

i guess this is more me moaning but why do people do this, say yes to x then they actually want you do to x instead its like why ?

before anyone asks we usually do a weekly meal out, and no they are fairly wealthy

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Woodfiresareamazing2 · Today 00:21

ImmortalSnowman · Yesterday 23:55

@Woodfiresareamazing2 Thank you, these children aren't mine but are family and it is definitely harder now than even 10 years ago to get anywhere, even if it is still easier here in Scotland than it would be in England. So many of us are diagnosed though, significant number diagnosed as adults (all of the women), that we are collectively managing through experience and luckily (mostly) supportive schools.

It is the case that girls successfully 'mask' better than boys, and so often aren't diagnosed until much older.

Autism is more prevalent in boys than girls, which is another reason why it might not be identified in girls.

None of it is easy, and it is very common for ND students to remark that people don't mean what they say, or say what they mean. Whether or not she is ND, OP shares that same confusion.

Firefly1987 · Today 00:25

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 23:39

what i want to know is why do humans have the social conventions of not saying what they mean ?

It's simply far too difficult to cover all eventualities-like being psychic and knowing you'd order two meals. Did you eat them both? Maybe she was more upset about potential food waste than the cost?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 00:27

ImmortalSnowman · Today 00:07

Assuming friend is NT @FourSevenFive

Multiple ND people on this thread have seen the logic from the friend's side. The friend has commented more than once on what @MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe has ordered as it wasn't logical to them to order extra food.

I am actively ignoring that fish does not go with sausage and garlic does not go with beans in my world to apply any logic.

I don’t think either person was wrong really, there is communication problems and I agree that the friend is also probably ND if she mentioned the extra food x 2.
Both of their decisions and reactions make sense in a ND conversation.
I hope you can both put it behind you. Pay for lunch next time if it won’t leave you penniless, if you can’t afford it then I would have a conversation with your friend about it, hopefully you can both move on.

GarlicAnywhere · Today 00:38

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · 08/08/2026 21:14

i dunno, im a strange fish

Oh, so you don't take everything literally?

It'd be a very strange fish that could read and type!

Millytante · Today 01:15

MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · Yesterday 20:15

yes indeed, im an arse but people should say what they mean and not leave it upto guessing

It is considered a useful social lubricant to NOT demand of others that they spell it out (or risk deliberate misapprehension by a determined literalist.)
Sometimes we speak in euphemism or circumlocution for reasons of embarrassment, trepidation, or any other kind of reluctance, and unless lives depend on it, we generally endeavour not to insist on an explicit exposition, but swiftly comprehend what is being said to us, out of kindness (or friendly affection, of course)

A person might be reluctant to tell her guest that she should limit what she selects as her meal, for reasons anyone could easily imagine, as it may embarrass one or both of them.
So the pleasant and grateful guest knows not to stick to the letter of what’s said, as this treat has been repeated weekly for a long time and she knows it ought to be at her expense, for once.
Similarly, if she made faint preparations to pay once or twice, but was assured it’s not necessary, she knows of course that her friend is hardly going to come out and admit that yes, paying would be a very good idea.
Her friend’s way may not be her own way of conversing (despite showing evidence of being at ease with elision and abstraction, in a very long ‘debate’) but she’ll gauge whether this is the perfect time to ignore what her friend says and just insist, by asking herself whether or not being deliberately obtuse just at that moment benefits her materially.

Toetouchingtitties · Today 01:40

Papster · Yesterday 22:01

Some posts have veered into exasperation at the relentless unwillingness of the OP to accept the advice/guidance she sought.

Perhaps she should claim a split personality to account for the double meals.

Cue torches and pitchforks for lighthearted remark about MH

Not going to write much, as I don't want to derail an already prolonged thread. But, I'm just calling you out for your 'lighthearted remark about MH'. Just as I would be for a 'lighthearted remark about racism' or 'lighthearted homophobic comments'.

I have Dissociative Identity Disorder. Look it up and learn something. There's nothing lighthearted about severe childhood abuse and a lifelong disorder that leaves me wanting to kill myself. (I have MH support, so don't worry).

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