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AIBU to refuse to cut short our holiday for childcare?

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UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:20

This is not our problem ???

We are on holiday currently with our 2 dc (2 and 4) (Disney Paris) due back home on Wednesday. Dh has 2 older dc from previous marriage (6 and 8).

He gave his ex money for holiday childcare which she ‘forgot’ to book the first week so I had to look after dc which was fine as dh had work. Next week her mum was going to have the dc but is now unwell. She is telling dh he needs to come home early to have the dc as she can’t take the time off.

She is constantly messaging and calling and we are considering just turning our phones off if she continues pestering us this way.

This seems to be a regular thing with her not arranging childcare and then expecting us to rescue the situation which we try to accomodate if we can but this is the first time we’ve said no.

OP posts:
ineedadehumidifier · Yesterday 18:07

Dontcallmescarface · Yesterday 17:38

Maybe read the OP's updates

She then moved really far away, we have been saving and looking to move nearer to them again so dh can see them more.

All the more reason to take them on holiday then, surely? Or actually not, since op posted that “they like to do things just their DC”??
As a step child and a step mum, no, I wouldn’t do that.

Velumental · Yesterday 18:08

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 18:06

Nobody is trying to say he's Dad of the year... not once did the OP mention that. She dis however say that her husband took his 2 eldest kids to Disney last year.

I've mentioned earlier that in the last 12 months we have done something similar. My SS is 14, our shared children are 2 and under. We did some weekends away (staycations or visiting family) with the babies while my SS was at his mums because he would have been bored stiff engaging in baby friendly activities. On the flipside, my DH has taken SS on 2 European breaks in 2026 so far that were age appropriate and geared towards his interests - trips that aren't suitable for the younger kids.

Certainly when I was younger (in a nuclear family) my older brothers went on trips that I didn't go on... and I went on some trips my brothers didn't.

Fair and equal aren't necessarily the same thing. They could get equal holidays but they might not be fair given a 1 yr old and a 7yr old have different needs and desires.

If his older kids were teenagers I'd agree, however these are 4 very close in age children

ThatLemonBee · Yesterday 18:11

That’s her problem . Sorry but no way in hell I would cut my kids holiday short for someone who hobos an adult and needs to sort out her life

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 18:11

Velumental · Yesterday 18:08

If his older kids were teenagers I'd agree, however these are 4 very close in age children

But a 2 yr old and an 8yr old won't be doing the same things on a trip like Disney.

I agree that on maybe a normal sun holiday going to the beach and swimming pool etc it'd be unjustifiable not bringing all the kids. But a trip like Disney which is so expensive, I personally think it makes sense to divide and conquer. Perhaps they all could have gone together on year but then the parents would likely be split the entire week going in opposite directions with different child groups.

isthisaplum · Yesterday 18:12

I think there is a massive difference between even six and two.

Potentially a holiday with an eight year old, six year old and four year old is manageable but not with a two year old in the mix.

Ehhhno · Yesterday 18:13

So the other children went on holiday with their mum and her partner, so they've had a holiday. God forbid OP wants a holiday with her own children alone. Considering the older kids get to have their's alone. I can't believe a mother would use her children's money given specifically for childcare on some shite for herself. Then get more for other things and again spends on herself. Don't be so bloody rude!

SummerDive · Yesterday 18:15

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 13:47

I’m not pissed off at all with dh.

I absolutely do like holidays without my stepchildren and I like holidays with them too. I can have both and why not !

We both want to turn phones off but both feel equally uneasy just in case there’s ever any kind of emergency.

You can switch your phone back in 3x a day (am, lunch, evening) to check so you’re not as worried about emergencies.

SummerDive · Yesterday 18:18

Fwiw I think you need to stop telling her what you’re doing re taking the dcs in hols early on.
It’s her time either way the dcs. She needed childcare organised anyway.

So don’t tell her ahead of time. Check how it works out with the older dcs (you don’t want to keep THEM in the dark! So you need a middle ground between not saying anything to anyone and telling everyone way ahead oyswim)

Dontcallmescarface · Yesterday 18:19

ojhdddhjs76 · Yesterday 18:02

Oh lord I’ve been part of military life FAR too long to have taken this at face value. Nothing is ever black and white. That’s why me and the other poster are raising our eyebrows at the simplistic and convenient story spouted out here. I have NO doubt your fella’s story was not black and white either. People are more complex than good and bad.

Edited

I didn't take it at face value.

twilightcafe · Yesterday 18:22

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Velumental · Yesterday 18:23

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 18:11

But a 2 yr old and an 8yr old won't be doing the same things on a trip like Disney.

I agree that on maybe a normal sun holiday going to the beach and swimming pool etc it'd be unjustifiable not bringing all the kids. But a trip like Disney which is so expensive, I personally think it makes sense to divide and conquer. Perhaps they all could have gone together on year but then the parents would likely be split the entire week going in opposite directions with different child groups.

There are 2 parents going, it's a perfectly ordinary age gap, I've an 8 yr old my sister has a 2 yr old, we do days out together and there's loads both can enjoy but also they can compromise and split up at points. He has 4 kids, when you have 4 kids that's how holidays work. Even with 2 kids it's how days out and holidays work. Realistically a 2 yr old will be doing minimal Disney activities other than smiling and waving at characters from a buggy, which she could do waiting for a rollercoaster.

itstooorangeyforcrows · Yesterday 18:25

JudgeJ · Yesterday 16:52

Did she return the extra money she demanded but then 'forgot' to book? In future were I your husband I would only pay any extra holidy money when she shows confirmed bookings. She a grasper.

Too true. This woman's got some nerve expecting her ex to disrupt his holiday because she can't get her shit together. I bet she hasn't returned the money either. This sounds like the kind of stunt my DSD's mum would have pulled back in the day.

BudgetBuster · Yesterday 18:25

Velumental · Yesterday 18:23

There are 2 parents going, it's a perfectly ordinary age gap, I've an 8 yr old my sister has a 2 yr old, we do days out together and there's loads both can enjoy but also they can compromise and split up at points. He has 4 kids, when you have 4 kids that's how holidays work. Even with 2 kids it's how days out and holidays work. Realistically a 2 yr old will be doing minimal Disney activities other than smiling and waving at characters from a buggy, which she could do waiting for a rollercoaster.

Yeah but maybe as a family they've decided this is best for them... like I said some things can be done with parents separating on the day, some can be done with activities for all or maybe like this scenario it's just 2 different trips.

MummyWillow1 · Yesterday 18:26

Has she returned the extra money for childcare that she didn’t book?

LilyOfTheValley25 · Yesterday 18:27

People saying the dh should holiday with all 4 kids are making a very big assumption that the children WANT to be blended. In practice usually, especially the first family, do not!!
The ex will have to sort it out.If she was seriously ill, it would be a different matter.

isthisaplum · Yesterday 18:27

Velumental · Yesterday 18:23

There are 2 parents going, it's a perfectly ordinary age gap, I've an 8 yr old my sister has a 2 yr old, we do days out together and there's loads both can enjoy but also they can compromise and split up at points. He has 4 kids, when you have 4 kids that's how holidays work. Even with 2 kids it's how days out and holidays work. Realistically a 2 yr old will be doing minimal Disney activities other than smiling and waving at characters from a buggy, which she could do waiting for a rollercoaster.

It depends on how close to three she is. But even thinking back to last summer (DD was three last month) I am not sure at all she would have sat quietly and waved and smiled from her buggy Hmm

I do sometimes think posters confuse two years with two months! Yes, < 18 months maybe but I don’t think many children older than that would sit happily in a buggy waving!

It’s also very different having one eight year old to one adult and one two year old and one adult to one two year old and three children to the other.

Velumental · Yesterday 18:34

isthisaplum · Yesterday 18:27

It depends on how close to three she is. But even thinking back to last summer (DD was three last month) I am not sure at all she would have sat quietly and waved and smiled from her buggy Hmm

I do sometimes think posters confuse two years with two months! Yes, < 18 months maybe but I don’t think many children older than that would sit happily in a buggy waving!

It’s also very different having one eight year old to one adult and one two year old and one adult to one two year old and three children to the other.

My youngest is 5, she was 2 not that long ago, at Disney there may be 1 or 2 things she could have gone on (she has always loved carousels and teacup type things) at 5 she's really into rollercoasters while my 8 yr old would rather have his hand chopped off) so it's not that I'm super old and didn't very recently have a toddler. We wouldn't have taken ours at 2 and 4 because it would have been lost on eldest who hates rides and youngest would literally have pottered about enjoying seeing the characters but that would have been about it.

Also with a 4 yr old child and 6 year old stepchild I wonder how big the difference is. You've made me think of that with your 'how close to 3' there could be just over a year's difference if stepchild has just turned 6 and eldest child is about to turn 5.

Velumental · Yesterday 18:35

isthisaplum · Yesterday 18:27

It depends on how close to three she is. But even thinking back to last summer (DD was three last month) I am not sure at all she would have sat quietly and waved and smiled from her buggy Hmm

I do sometimes think posters confuse two years with two months! Yes, < 18 months maybe but I don’t think many children older than that would sit happily in a buggy waving!

It’s also very different having one eight year old to one adult and one two year old and one adult to one two year old and three children to the other.

Well yes, I'd assume all children would go to a ride if 3)4 of them wanted to go on it with 1 parent not going on but staying beside the ride with the toddler.

isthisaplum · Yesterday 18:37

@Velumental I’m not suggesting for a moment you’re super old, but I know myself our memories are not reliable with these things. I have a five year old; it already seems light years since he was two and I know I’ve forgotten exactly what he was like; it merges with the one year old him and the three and four year old.

I can say that I don’t think many children bar babies would just sit in a pushchair while their siblings had fun, but I do accept children are different.

In any case the OP is there now with just two children, and that’s that.

Jessiesjammy · Yesterday 18:38

It’s fine to take your own children on holiday, the step kids got a solo holiday with DH last year and no doubt get trips with their mum.

Everyone get some solo time with dad and that’s fine. can’t believe you’d be expected to take everyone everywhere - madness.

JJMama · Yesterday 18:49

AndrewPreview · Yesterday 12:24

What are the custody arrangements like normally?

Why aren't his older children on holiday with you?

This, they’re barely older than yours with him. He didn’t leave much of a gap before he moved onto a new family!

Bookbears · Yesterday 19:09

Velumental · Yesterday 17:00

So I've been with my husband 20 years, we have 2 kids, I'm not a single mother bitter or otherwise.

My brother has 2 kids and 2 step kids. I can't imagine him taking just his step kids on holiday leaving his kids home and if they had kids together I can't imagine that either.

As a parent I can't imagine booking Disneyland, going and not taking my kids who are old enough to enjoy it.

Yes younger kids can enjoy a holiday obviously but why not with their older siblings there too?

Read the thread and you will have your answer

Velumental · Yesterday 19:12

Bookbears · Yesterday 19:09

Read the thread and you will have your answer

The answer appears to be 'we didn't want them there and thought that was reasonable' which is definitely nuts.

Bookbears · Yesterday 19:12

Sunnibee · Yesterday 17:09

i wonder how the kids feel about it when their dad takes his new family to Disney land and leaves them behind.

I wonder how the little ones felt when their daddy took their two older siblings to Disney without them last year…

Velumental · Yesterday 19:13

Jessiesjammy · Yesterday 18:38

It’s fine to take your own children on holiday, the step kids got a solo holiday with DH last year and no doubt get trips with their mum.

Everyone get some solo time with dad and that’s fine. can’t believe you’d be expected to take everyone everywhere - madness.

Would you go onliday to Disneyland with your 2 and 4 yr old leaving your 6 and 8 yr old at home?