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AIBU to refuse to cut short our holiday for childcare?

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UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:20

This is not our problem ???

We are on holiday currently with our 2 dc (2 and 4) (Disney Paris) due back home on Wednesday. Dh has 2 older dc from previous marriage (6 and 8).

He gave his ex money for holiday childcare which she ‘forgot’ to book the first week so I had to look after dc which was fine as dh had work. Next week her mum was going to have the dc but is now unwell. She is telling dh he needs to come home early to have the dc as she can’t take the time off.

She is constantly messaging and calling and we are considering just turning our phones off if she continues pestering us this way.

This seems to be a regular thing with her not arranging childcare and then expecting us to rescue the situation which we try to accomodate if we can but this is the first time we’ve said no.

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itsgettingweird · Today 07:27

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:18

I can’t help but read this alleged list this woman with two tiny babies apparently has committed (and now “demanding” the holiday ends, oh and the suggestion she basically has swiped the money given for childcare to spend on herself) and think…. Bull shit

Well yes.

There’s always a chance the thread is a work of fiction.

But based on the facts presented people are judging based on pre conceived bias.

I often think that’s what these threads are posted for. As a social experiment.

But it plays into people hands because it’s always the same script. Blame the SM and dad whatever facts are presented!

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 07:11

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 05:39

Why aren't his older children on holiday with you?

Yes, extremely shitty of their father if he doesn’t take them to Euro Disney as well.

Judging by the age gaps it didn’t take him long to meet and impregnate the OP after his youngest was born in his previous relationship so unless he plans to give his older children equal treatment I’d say he’s a prince and can see why his ex would be pissed off and happy to ruin their holiday

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Hi, sorry, I’ve reported my post to get it removed - I stupidly didn’t read the full thread from the OP, apologies

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:18

itsgettingweird · Today 06:12

If you read the thread

She cheated on him and it started before she conceived his 2nd child.

In fact his 2nd child’s parentage was in question until a dna check.

She left him while pregnant for the man she was having an affair with.

She moved away.

I don’t see why him getting on with his life is wrong.

Nor why the woman who left him, took his 2 children away and can’t organise childcare he paid for is somehow completely innocent here.

I can’t help but read this alleged list this woman with two tiny babies apparently has committed (and now “demanding” the holiday ends, oh and the suggestion she basically has swiped the money given for childcare to spend on herself) and think…. Bull shit

itsgettingweird · Today 06:12

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 05:39

Why aren't his older children on holiday with you?

Yes, extremely shitty of their father if he doesn’t take them to Euro Disney as well.

Judging by the age gaps it didn’t take him long to meet and impregnate the OP after his youngest was born in his previous relationship so unless he plans to give his older children equal treatment I’d say he’s a prince and can see why his ex would be pissed off and happy to ruin their holiday

Edited

If you read the thread

She cheated on him and it started before she conceived his 2nd child.

In fact his 2nd child’s parentage was in question until a dna check.

She left him while pregnant for the man she was having an affair with.

She moved away.

I don’t see why him getting on with his life is wrong.

Nor why the woman who left him, took his 2 children away and can’t organise childcare he paid for is somehow completely innocent here.

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:05

I can’t imagine meeting a man, on an app @UnhealthierWhy ?, finding out he has a very young baby and a young toddler with another woman and thinking…. “Yep, just the man I want to start dating”

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:03

Wowwhataworld · Yesterday 23:27

Step mothers always get a bashing on here no matter how nice they sound 🙈

If you read the thread… the vast majority are giving the DH, the father of all 4 children, a “bashing”.

And rightfully so IMO

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Today 05:39

AndrewPreview · Yesterday 12:24

What are the custody arrangements like normally?

Why aren't his older children on holiday with you?

Why aren't his older children on holiday with you?

Yes, extremely shitty of their father if he doesn’t take them to Euro Disney as well.

Judging by the age gaps it didn’t take him long to meet and impregnate the OP after his youngest was born in his previous relationship so unless he plans to give his older children equal treatment I’d say he’s a prince and can see why his ex would be pissed off and happy to ruin their holiday

itstooorangeyforcrows · Today 01:44

knottywig · Yesterday 19:50

Because it’s true. OP did know and she made a decision to continue in the relationship knowing that. The ex wife is being a douche, but it doesn’t mean that the op and her DH aren’t utter twats excluding 2 kids, whether they went the year before or not!

That's a matter of opinion.

itstooorangeyforcrows · Today 01:43

Velumental · Yesterday 19:45

She's gone to Disneyland leaving 2 if her husbands 4 children at home in childcare. That's what it's to do with being a step parent.

She's explained that, and imo it's reasonable.

Fleurdavril · Today 01:17

Ignore the nasty mumsnet anti-stepmum posse. You and DH are doing absolutely the right thing by:

  1. taking just the two younger children so that they enjoy age-appropriate offerings. And
  1. not cutting short your holiday to accommodate the ex who had all the time and money to organise child care.

Leave it to her and her partner to figure it out. Otherwise you will find yourselves bullied, manipulated and harassed every time she fails to get organised. Whether she did this deliberately to sabotage your holiday, who knows. But she's certainly causing drama and affecting your time in Paris. And if you keep giving way, she'll throw the same tantrum again. And again.

76evie · Today 01:08

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 13:47

I’m not pissed off at all with dh.

I absolutely do like holidays without my stepchildren and I like holidays with them too. I can have both and why not !

We both want to turn phones off but both feel equally uneasy just in case there’s ever any kind of emergency.

I hope you chose to turn of the phones and enjoy the rest of your trip. You have already helped her out the first week and it sounds like you would do this week if you was home. You’re not and her poor planning isn’t your problem, now would be a great time to say no as if you always say yes, she will continued to be entitled.

I also can’t believe some of the comments you have had on here. To me it sounds like you & DH wanted all 4 children to experience Disneyland Paris but took them separately so that the trip could be tailored to the individual ages! I don’t see anything wrong with that! Nothing wrong with enjoying holidays without the step kids and with them!

I would go as far as to say you are completely unreasonable if you DID go home early!

also I hope she returned the holiday club money!

Purplerubberducky · Today 00:53

Velumental · Yesterday 23:47

I'm not sure they do disagree

I agree they shouldn't cut their holiday short.

I also think it's horrible what they've done

This!

MiaKulper · Today 00:39

Velumental · Today 00:21

Read the thread, so many people saying don't cut the holiday short but not taking them is horrible. The vote is whether they cut the holiday short.

I agree don't cut the holiday short, however not taking them is horrible.

But they were taken there last year by their Dad, without their half-siblings.

InterIgnis · Today 00:32

placemats · Yesterday 20:38

A good step mum would expect her husband/partner to treat all his children equally. It's the measure of a good man and a good family.

It’s not the job of OP to police how her husband chooses to parent his oldest children. Whatever arrangements he wants to make are between him and his ex.

Drivingmissrangey · Today 00:30

TheJuryIsOut · Today 00:19

How he treated her? She cheated on him.

Thank you, I had missed that part. Makes it even all the more astounding that he jumped straight into having two more kids to be honest. His older kids need stability, not to feel like they are constantly a childcare issue to be resolved.

Velumental · Today 00:21

0Thatsplenty0 · Today 00:14

Haha, that is a very arrogant post. What makes you think people don't know what they're voting for?

Read the thread, so many people saying don't cut the holiday short but not taking them is horrible. The vote is whether they cut the holiday short.

I agree don't cut the holiday short, however not taking them is horrible.

TheJuryIsOut · Today 00:19

Drivingmissrangey · Today 00:17

No not really. My guess is she’s difficult because she’s so bitter about how he treated her.

How he treated her? She cheated on him.

Drivingmissrangey · Today 00:17

Woahtherehoney · Yesterday 22:45

any comment about the mum who can’t seem to look after the two kids she has, or just the dad?

No not really. My guess is she’s difficult because she’s so bitter about how he treated her.

0Thatsplenty0 · Today 00:14

Velumental · Yesterday 23:47

I'm not sure they do disagree

I agree they shouldn't cut their holiday short.

I also think it's horrible what they've done

Haha, that is a very arrogant post. What makes you think people don't know what they're voting for?

BrokenWingsCantFly · Today 00:10

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:15

The op claims that he prefers to have a few holidays JUST with his kids with the OP and not his other two.

Either he is a shit dad

or the OP is lying

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He also had a holiday with just his oldest. Then all together. He is giving them all equal over time. It is fare and it would be more enjoyable for all, having age appropriate holidays with their age group in mind and no boredom in between standing around waiting for things they are not interested in. There have been many on this thread saying they do the same with their biological children.

Also the step children get to go away with the mum each year, why should they have to hear about their half siblings extra holiday each year but never have anything for themselves. Or should the OP have to take them away on her own to match up? How fare can you go with fairness in a split family. There will always be 1 child experiencing something the other doesn't

Velumental · Today 00:01

TheJuryIsOut · Today 00:00

This really is a wild take. The 2 older children went to Disney last year, the 2 younger children are there now. It's perfectly fair and actually a great way of doing it because the children get more individual attention and can do more of what they like without having to cater for younger/older ones.

I took my oldest three children away this year without my youngest. We are taking my youngest and my step daughter to Disney later this year without my older three, we're lucky to be in a position to be able to do this but I hardly think we're terrible parents for it.

What ages are they?

TheJuryIsOut · Today 00:00

Velumental · Yesterday 23:47

I'm not sure they do disagree

I agree they shouldn't cut their holiday short.

I also think it's horrible what they've done

This really is a wild take. The 2 older children went to Disney last year, the 2 younger children are there now. It's perfectly fair and actually a great way of doing it because the children get more individual attention and can do more of what they like without having to cater for younger/older ones.

I took my oldest three children away this year without my youngest. We are taking my youngest and my step daughter to Disney later this year without my older three, we're lucky to be in a position to be able to do this but I hardly think we're terrible parents for it.

Velumental · Yesterday 23:47

0Thatsplenty0 · Yesterday 23:29

95% of people in the poll disagree with your view. You are seriously projecting.

I'm not sure they do disagree

I agree they shouldn't cut their holiday short.

I also think it's horrible what they've done

0Thatsplenty0 · Yesterday 23:29

Velumental · Yesterday 19:45

She's gone to Disneyland leaving 2 if her husbands 4 children at home in childcare. That's what it's to do with being a step parent.

95% of people in the poll disagree with your view. You are seriously projecting.

Wowwhataworld · Yesterday 23:27

Step mothers always get a bashing on here no matter how nice they sound 🙈

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