To wonder if those in favour of the death penalty would be able to pass the sentence themselves?

I think it's one of the conditions Lowe stated for working with Reform.

Yes, I'd be alright with being an executioner if the death penalty was brought back for a limited array of crimes, and corruption was low. There would be difficult aspects, obviously, and I imagine it might wear at you, but there would also be job satisfaction when eliminating a person who inflicted torture on the vulnerable.

A grim job, but I've killed animals before either to put them out of their misery, or as food, and I generally like them much better than people.

I'd hope the pay was decent, though.

As for an option to 'avenge' a family member? Obviously, given my answer above. Where would I draw the line as to method? Well, something quick and clean would generally be preferable, in order to be both humane and protect my stomach, but if someone violated or killed my children or husband, it would be tempting to toss a match on them and walk away. I don't think I would though.

It is. I really can't see Restore getting enough votes for that to be an attractive proposition for Reform.

And hopefully neither party get enough votes for any kind of coalition to even be a relevance.

Wrong. You owe me an apology.

To not get this. Don't murder anyone else in cold blood.

Absolutely.

Yes

Absolutely I could.

I think this is what happens when people lose faith in the justice system. Jails and courts are overwhelmed. The police don’t seem to be able to monitor even known offenders effectively.

Todays tale of ineptitude
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jnrk4xlvdo

Rape reporting is an all time high, gangs of thieves seem to steal with impunity. Violent criminals getting released early. Society gets to a “fuck it” stage because what we are doing is not working. Applying the death penalty to those who do not deserve redemption seems like an easy fix.

I'm not convinced most supporters are advocating for setting people on fire or beheading. I don't think I'd have too much trouble shooting a scumbag in the head though tbh.

The guillotine is probably the best method. Very quick death.

Perhaps we need to lock 100 of these guys up forever to save 1 potential victim.

Interesting article here

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/03/britains-last-hangman-harry-allen

There was also a Timewatch programme broadcast I think in the mid 90's where they interviewed a number of people involved in executions including Sid Dernley hangman, a Bishop who had been a prison chaplain, a senior Home Office Civil Servant & a prison officer who had done death watch

At the time I lived in a road next to HMP Bristol - aged about 6 months but someone older recalled seeing a small group outside the prison late one night who he now thinks were anti death penalty protesters when an execution was taking place and someone I was at infants school with her father worked there presumably was there at the time the hanging took place.

BUT bear in mind that its all very well to have the Death Penalty but what about those who have to administer it and carry it out? There are a lot of people involved and it was said that in the days when we had the Death Penalty the Home Office was a bit of a strange place

The problem is that it isn't an easy fix. Prisoners with a death sentence spend loads of time on death row while litigation goes on in the courts trying to get the sentence removed. Human rights lawyers would make a fortune.

Would it be compatible with the Human Rights Act?

I'm not sure it's as straight forward as people think it would be. They wouldn't be sentenced and instantly executed.

I watched Pierrepoint, a film about Albert Pierrepoint who was Britain’s most prolific hangman. His last job was executing Ruth Ellis before he retired. Seems he took a lot of pride in his job but the film is anti death penalty and portrayed him as someone who ended up broken and disturbed by what he did (it’s a fictional depiction and I don’t think there’s any evidence he actually felt that way). Personally I couldn’t do it. Taking a murderer’s life would simply drag me down to their level. That said, I wouldn’t lose a moments sleep over a child killer being put to death.

I do think that in some ways the death penalty is an easy way out though and leaving murderers in prison, forced to live with what they’ve done is a greater punishment.

It seems that poster just refuses to understand what the word 'murder' means. It's very silly.

I’m not saying we need to lock people up forever but “low level” crime needs to be taken seriously. Groping / flashing can and does escalate.

Convicted sex offenders should be tagged and monitored in perpetuity and the they should have strict conditions imo

I’m sure the families of the dead victims would much rather we had a lower tolerance policy towards repeat offenders.

Interestingly, I find the deprivation of my liberty one of the most punishing things about my life. It’s not through crime and even I have a much better environment than any prisoner. I was just asking the question. Not trying to give answers but as I have seen inside various prisons and. As I have said, am deprived of my liberty to a great extent, I wondered how other people felt about that.

If you have such strong views on the prison/liberty subject, why are you content to leave the mechanism to others ?

I consider most of the execution methods used around the world to be barbaric and I presume you know most US States with the option have suspended the use of chemical execution ?

There are no rights and wrongs, just opinions. Trying to personalise the issues is a bad debating point. If any individual might be prepared to execute the perpetrator of a crime against their 'loved one' they would possibly draw the line at that so the next person who wasn't prepared to take revenge would create an imbalance.

Linda Carty is an interesting case. A Brit on death row, About to be executed in Texas.

As I thought, incompatible with the Human Rights Act:

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/human-rights/human-rights-act/article-1-protocol-13-abolition-death-penalty

Does everyone advocating for the death penalty want the HRA abolished?

It wouldn’t be compatible with the human rights act. We’d have to withdraw from ECHR which would mean Good Friday agreement will need renegotiated as well as current UK EU trade agreement. I don’t actually think we will reintroduce the death penalty in the foreseeable future if I’m honest but I understand why people would support it. It’ll continue to be raised as a political pressure point and also by some would rather we left ECHR as would allow much more stringent policies towards refugees / migrants.

Boil them ??? Steady on !

It doesn't have to be everything or nothing. Things can be amended. It was done before, or is abroad, it can be done again.

That's a technicality that's not really the issue.

Yes I would be in favour and make the decision without any issue. Sex offenders, those who desecrate and mutilate a person’s body after taking their life, child abuse.

The London Underground rapist and murderer would be at the top of my list. Second Levi Belfield, Mick Philpot, and many more.
I wouldn’t even grant them their last week, a bowl of porridge.

The last prisoner execution was 1954 Ireland, 1964 England. I would have stricter rules around it. it hasn’t been that long since it was normal.

An eye for an eye.

It’s pretty clear that capital punishment is forbidden under ECHR and derogations from this are also forbidden. As far as I know the only European country (not an EU member) who carries out capital punishment is Belarus where convicts have a bag put on their heads and are killed by a single gunshot to the back of head. Even Russia have a moratorium although given their propensity for recruiting their prison population to head to the front line to be shot by Ukrainians it seems a bit pointless.