To wonder if those in favour of the death penalty would be able to pass the sentence themselves?

This is brought up every time the death penalty is discussed. It's almost as if those in favour are hypocrites unless they will administer the fatal injection etc. The thing is, most of us are hypocrite s in day to day life. I eat meat but wouldn't kill an animal. I want my bins emptied but wouldn't do that job. They will find many that would take on the job I am sure.

I'm torn on this issue because wrong-person error cannot be ruled out with obviously catastrophic consequences, but I absolutely would. It's the only way I could justify to myself fundamentally immoral (involving death) acts like eating meat/killing animals for food.

I'm very much against the death penalty. It's barbaric and there's no coming back from it. I've said this on countless threads.

But there are situations where I'd happily kill, those that hurt my kids for example.

Which is another reason that the death penalty should be out of the hands of family members and if it was ever to be reinstated should be the decision of unconnected, independent, neutral judiciary.

I'm against the death penalty. But if one of my family was murdered, I'm sure I'd want and be able to kill the perpetrator myself. It's why a logical argument can't be based on emotion.

I would happily do it. No problem at all, especially those bastards who have killed women and children.

Ah. So we are asking people if they could murder someone?

and people are saying yes easily? 🤔

Is execution after being found guilty in a court of law the same as murder?

Yes

People that believe in it probably would yes. Why would you think otherwise?

Some people obviously are full of shit and looking someone right in the eyes 10 mins before they pull the trigger or push the button or whatever might make them pull out but people who belive the state should be able to kill its citizens probably have no feelings about ending someones life like that.

I couldn’t be responsible for ending a life like that. Even if I felt good about it at the time, I know myself and it would plague me every night for the rest of my life.

Not legally, in countries where they practise it.

That's the point and the price any of us would have to pay. It would be part of the collateral consequences that any judiciary system has to manage (public interest vs the freedom of the individual/concept of debt paid).

A deeply disturbed man who has raped and killed several children - I would not lose sleep over becoming a murderer because of him.

Not a chance. I’m against the death penalty in all circumstances, even if (heaven forbid) my family member was the victim. In a society with the death penalty, it could equally be me or a member of my family being wrongfully executed. People are too quick to dismiss the notion that THEY could find themselves at the wrong end of that kind of justice.

I actually don’t base whether or not I kill people on legality but you do you

This applies both ways though. You have no idea what kind of blind rage and all consuming grief you'd feel if someone abused/murdered one of your family members.

Everyone is capable of murder given the right set of circumstances. Everyone.

I’ve already said I couldn’t execute anyone. But you seem to be confused on what murder is (an unlawful killing) and execution (state-authorised killing under a legal framework).

The two concepts differ in legality and morality.

I always think though- so few people do kill their child/mother/spouses murder do they? That’s what I base my belief that 99.99% of people would not kill their child’s killer, because the reality is 99.99% don’t.

I’m not confused at all. It makes no difference to my view. And you may think they differ morally but the thing about morals is, everyone’s are different.

I think there are reasons for that though 1. opportunity 2. fear of being locked away and therefore being unable to be there for your family that is left

I suspect if they had the means to do it and there would be zero consequences it would be very different

I’m stupefied that we’re having this discussion again. The same people who scream two-tier Keir and say the police in this country aren’t fair and competent now want to allow this same apparently broken system to kill people?

It’s fine if you feel that execution is akin to murder.

But often the families of victims of a murderer await news that the execution has taken place and feel relief.

What you’re saying is that they’re effectively murderers, which is wrong in my view.

but the blind rage - the driver- is the same no matter what. So if you don’t have that, you’re probably not going to beat a man to death.

and opportunity v prison is just your assumption. We don’t know why people don’t kill their children’s murderers, even when there is opportunity

Of course I’m not saying that. How can feeling relived someone was murdered make you a murderer? Where did you even get that idea from?