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The double standards on here are getting out of hand

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SpunkyAmberReader · 30/01/2025 06:52

A male posts that is his wife is grumpy and complains and its immediately the man's fault: "you're not loving enough," "what do you when she complains," "she complains for a reason," "you don't appreciate her enough," "do you get her painkillers when she said she has a headache."

Yesterday I read a thread about a woman who was considering ending her affair because her husband had been diagnosed with cancer and a few posters told her to continue and not feel guilty.

Another poster wrote about her daughter complaining her father / posters husband was always miserable and lots of posters attacked a suggestion that the posters should try to cheer up her husband. The gist was a wife isn't responsible for trying to make her husband happy.

Therr is a really nasty double standard here and in society.

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TipsyPlumAnt · 30/01/2025 07:47

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Jellycatspyjamas · 30/01/2025 07:48

It seems mumsnet is based on opinions and judgements.

Its almost as if this site promotes discussion on a range of topics where a whole load of women, and men, can share their views. Imagine any of them having opinions or judgements.

FellowFallow · 30/01/2025 07:48

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/01/2025 07:49

Didimum · 30/01/2025 06:59

It’s a site for parents.

Yeah. Female ones.

RedRiverShore5 · 30/01/2025 07:49

Most posts on here are from a woman's point of view so will be against men

BunnyLake · 30/01/2025 07:49

I agree. I can understand that women on here might be more bias towards other women but the double standards over a same scenario situation can be ridiculous. Man unhappy in marriage is his fault, woman unhappy in marriage is his fault etc. Yes men can be arseholes but so can women.

AlisonDonut · 30/01/2025 07:49

JustAskingThisQ · 30/01/2025 07:21

Remember the recent thread where a woman pursued an ex that had told her he was partnered. She then got drunk, cornered him alone at a dinner party and tried to kiss him. At least half of responders told her it wasn't a big deal and we all do silly things when we are drunk and sad.

This suggests nearly half weren't? So not completely 'double standards' then?

On a different day a different mix of people would give a different percentage of responses.

KimberleyClark · 30/01/2025 07:49

bifurCAT · 30/01/2025 07:32

The fidelity posts really highlight this. Like the male strip club one where the woman licked cream off a penis. Half the posts were "forgive yourself, it was one mistake".

It was the same with the poster who got drunk and tried to kiss her ex while his new partner was in the next room,and then told said new partner she hated her. Loads of the responses were along the lines of there there, you’ve done nothing wrong, haven’t we all done something like this, forgive yourself,be kind to yourself, some even tried to make out the ex was to blame for breaking up with her. If a man had done this he would have had his arse handed to him.

Didimum · 30/01/2025 07:51

Deetelves · 30/01/2025 07:17

Sure….

Well it is. What more do you want?

A site is for whoever its creators say its for, not simply for what is its largest demographic.

DaisysChains · 30/01/2025 07:51

Therr is a really nasty double standard here and in society.

yes there is

and once the nasty double standard against women in society is addressed

I suspect there will be little need of the one against men here

bifurCAT · 30/01/2025 07:51

You said women are more likely to be low earners, can suffer domestic abuse, the primary carer... so it's only sensible to have a backup fund to help them should things go wrong.

A dowry is "a form of financial security for the wife, potentially providing her with a means of support in case of her husband's death or mistreatment"... whether the money comes from the family, from the husband's earnings (if a SAHW), or squirrelled away by the wife from her own savings, same result.

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/01/2025 07:51

spuddy4 · 30/01/2025 07:22

Completely agree. The step parents particularly get a rough time of it and I think that's from the women who are divorced and the ex husband has remarried.

I feel the opposite tbh. I'm constantly shocked at the level of vitriol some step parents show towards their stepchildren. The step parenting board is really an eye opener as to how bad some step mothers are.

Didimum · 30/01/2025 07:52

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/01/2025 07:49

Yeah. Female ones.

Do you want to pop Mumsnet an email to change their info banner then? They might not have spotted it.

mantaraya · 30/01/2025 07:53

Women encouraged to marry for security but when she has more than the husband she's told not to get married

I think context is key here. It's pretty rare that you have an instance where the man has been made financially vulnerable in the relationship due to childcare. It's also a lot less common for women to just get up and walk out on their families.

Normally when women are being advised not to get married on here it's because they're the breadwinner as well as doing the majority of the childcare/housework. In which case fair enough.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 30/01/2025 07:53

This isn't a hive mind. You get different responses because different posters reply to different threads.

JustAskingThisQ · 30/01/2025 07:53

AlisonDonut · 30/01/2025 07:49

This suggests nearly half weren't? So not completely 'double standards' then?

On a different day a different mix of people would give a different percentage of responses.

If it a man did that, nobody would say it's understandable because he's sad

bifurCAT · 30/01/2025 07:53

Sorry above post was for @Jellycatspyjamas

TheWorminLabyrinth · 30/01/2025 07:53

DUsername · 30/01/2025 07:19

I'm afraid I see the occasional double standard on here as far less of a problem than the behaviour of some men towards women.

I have read some truly horrific accounts of abuse from me against women on here. That kind of behaviour is far worse and more damaging.

I also think that you'd find the same sort of double standard on a male equivalent to Mumsnet. Whilst men can and do post on here it is mostly women so the perspective is going to be female. Do you think it would be different amongst men? Of course not.

I very much agree.

Every time one of these "I am here to stick up for the poor boys" threads appears, I wonder if the poster goes onto male dominated forums, reddit, pistonheads, for examples, and piles in to challenge the men about their attitudes and behaviours towards women. Highly doubt that.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 30/01/2025 07:57

GrannyWeasel · 30/01/2025 07:25

Perhaps it is just different people posting on different threads. It's not as if each post represents the thoughts of the whole group.

Absolutely.
This is more complicated than everyone being indulgent to women and critical of men every time.
Also I tend to reply more briefly and less sympathetically to some of the ‘man looking for a female perspective’ posts because I don’t quite believe them and suspect that they are intended to provoke women into insulting other women.

Dianapiano · 30/01/2025 07:57

I agree. It is frustrating to read similar subject threads and advice is so different iritis from a man or woman. I always think it is funny when a woman complains about her partner and everyone sides with her until she reveals that she is in a same sex marriage, when posters are suddenly flummoxed about who to side with.

EasyTouch · 30/01/2025 07:58

Take your cape off and let grown men fight their own battles.
As for Mumsnet "not being a site for women; it's a PARENTING website"......
No man posts on this site without the expectation and a lot of the time , entitlement to overwhelmingly female interaction or support.
The internet is overrun with male opinion and entitlement of mostly female sites.
It's bloody great that there is a place where they are not given priority, no matter how many of them and caping women seem to have interpreted the notion of Equality to mean "the exact same without no consideration whatsoever for the way society is set up to over promote even the most basic of men , of any race , once they perform the bare minimum of adult expectations."
Most women on Mumsnet regarding the Patriarchy and how it affects down to the minutae of interpersonal relationships....most of us are instinctively, even if not intellectually, "hip to game", thus come here in the expectation that the usual social purviews are not replicated here.
Public houses are legion if it's a typical "poor Fred" opinion that a man expects from a non invested audience.

Surf2Live · 30/01/2025 07:58

Didimum · 30/01/2025 06:59

It’s a site for parents.

It's MUMSnet

the clue is literally in the name

MUMS are women

sometimesmovingforwards · 30/01/2025 08:00

DreamyDog · 30/01/2025 07:15

This place is full of divorcees who hate men. They want everyone to be like them.

Agreed. A lot of short haircuts and clenched jawlines for sure.

poemsandwine · 30/01/2025 08:00

And when it's pointed out, we're accused of being incels. It's unhinged.

HardenYourHeart · 30/01/2025 08:00

So what?

You hone in on one thread with a few posters you disagree with and judge the whole of Mumsnet by these replies whether other posters may disagree or not?

Talk about selection bias.