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to tell son NOT to post memes of black people

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mazxim · 17/08/2024 13:34

Please help me . Huge row with 11 year old.

His friend posted a meme of a black person with "bombastic side eye".

He wants to repost it to some silly comment.

I said it is wrong and not the right thing to do even if the person "bombastic side eye" posted it himself on tin tok.

Please give me your thoughts.

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Cattyisbatty · 17/08/2024 14:24

soupfiend · 17/08/2024 13:43

Mr Bombastic?

Showing my age there

So memes of any other ethnicity and taking the piss out of people period (of any ethnicity) is generally what people do, but not about black people?

Whats that about?

Whats racist about looking at someone suspiciously

I was thinking Mr Bombastic too 😆 and Mr Loverman - Shabba!

Irridescantshimmmer · 17/08/2024 14:25

Absolutely not ok to post racist memes and your are right to stop your son from reposting them, though I understand it was sent from his racist friend.

All blood is red.

Crunchymum · 17/08/2024 14:26

I have an 11yo.

We allow WhatsApp

BUT we have very strict provisos in place (only allowed to be on small group chats / we check phone daily / only allowed to share pictures with family / not allowed to use the status function / only allowed to be on WhatsApp with established friends etc) . If he breaks any rules then WhatsApp is gone.

If my DC was arguing with me about something I've told him not to post then WhatsApp is deleted. End of.

LoneHydrangea · 17/08/2024 14:26

I can’t fathom how it’s racist?

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/08/2024 14:27

mazxim · 17/08/2024 13:45

Thank you . I totally agree. He is only allowed WhatsApp 15 min x 2 a week during the summer holidays. A lot of his friends are overseas travelling. And the entire year group is on it. I already have the accusations from him that I am trying to isolate him from his friends.

You totally agree he shouldn't be on WhatsApp... yet you allow him on WhatsApp...

Coconutter24 · 17/08/2024 14:27

Overtheatlantic · 17/08/2024 13:37

It’s racist. Black people don’t exist for the amusement of others.

In what way is it racist? Because it’s a black person? Because there is plenty of white people in pics doing this also. Or is there some meaning behind it I’m unaware of? I thought it meant look of disapproval, disgust or judgement.

rocky5001 · 17/08/2024 14:31

He said what if I posted a white person. I said you need to understand the history of black people, and you shouldn't post just because others do.

Why didn't you answer his question?

hepsitemiz · 17/08/2024 14:34

mazxim · 17/08/2024 13:43

Backstory: He himself reported someone on the chat for using the N word when it was used against him. So for him to then post the meme, I think is not appropriate.

Sorry, you say, of your son: "he himself reported someone for using the N word when it was used against him".

The N word was used against your son?

DiscontentedPig · 17/08/2024 14:38

As a parent of mixed-race kids, I find this notion that white people basically shouldn't get involved in anything to do with any non-white culture one of the most concerning developments of the last 20 years.

soupfiend · 17/08/2024 14:39

GreyTS · 17/08/2024 13:56

Gotta love white people, always jumping in to tell people shit is not racist 🙄 my friend is black and she doesn't find that racist.....same on a thread the other day, Irish people explaining calmly why a saying was offensive but no you all know better, your Irish grandmother/ friend/partner think it's hilarious. Honestly you Brits are literally violently racist, just say you don't give a shit and stop trying to justify yourselves and your language towards minorities

Are you able to explain it then, because OP isnt making any sense at all, her responses dont make any sense.

HollyKnight · 17/08/2024 14:40

The meme is the side-eye, not the black person. If anyone is being racist it is you by "othering".

Combattingthemoaners · 17/08/2024 14:42

I genuinely don’t understand how that is racist. There may be some memes that are racist but not that one, surely?

Ilovelurchers · 17/08/2024 14:42

Demonhunter · 17/08/2024 14:20

No it's not. It was originally said by a black woman about giving the best dirty looks as a jokey reel. It's used by all races and even species! Gets used on animal short reels when they're pulling a funny face. Are black people not allowed to set social media trends that everyone can use now? That's racist!

"it's not" what?

I am not suggesting that the concept of "side eye" is inherently a racist one. I am saying that maybe OP feels this particular meme plays into a stereotype about black people being aggressive - so a joke about black people giving particularly potent (bombastic) side-eye could, potentially, be seen as racist/offensive?

I don't know. It wouldn't have immediately struck me as racist I must admit. But I am not black, so I am not one of the people most likely to be sensitive to, and offended by, racism, and am therefore happy to take my cues regarding the matter from those who are.

Is there anybody on here who is willing to say they are black (I know not everybody likes sharing details about themselves - that's understandable) and tell us whether or not they would find it racist personally? As those are the opinions I am most interested in really.... I think white people debating whether a meme about black people is offensive to black people is a bit of a racist concept in itself! And admittedly I am currently part of it....

Of course I have no idea whether you are all white. I perhaps erroneously assume that at least some of you are

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Eyf · 17/08/2024 14:46

Absolutely ridiculous.

WhereDoWeGoFromHereBill · 17/08/2024 14:47

BunsHun · 17/08/2024 14:06

As a 25 year old of mixed heritage, this is not racist at all. It's literally a meme. The joke would remain the same even if the person in the meme was White or Asian.

Edit: It's pretty exhausting watching people get offended FOR black people. If black people themselves aren't offended, why are you? This whole race thing is getting ridiculous imo.

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Yet GreyTS said · Today 13:56

Gotta love white people, always jumping in to tell people shit is not racist 🙄 my friend is black and she doesn't find that racist.....same on a thread the other day, Irish people explaining calmly why a saying was offensive but no you all know better, your Irish grandmother/ friend/partner think it's hilarious. Honestly you Brits are literally violently racist, just say you don't give a shit and stop trying to justify yourselves and your language towards minorities

So which is it? Should white people get offended for black people and "jump in" or not??!

Or should they just shut up and not have an opinion? Either way appears wrong

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 17/08/2024 14:49

mazxim · 17/08/2024 13:41

its a meme of a black guy giving the side eye

OP, don't you sound a bit racist?

'Meme of a Black person and bombastic side eye, MUST be racist' - people can post memes of people of others ethnicities and skin colours.

There's a great one of that kid doing the unimpressed face - been around for years (as has the bombastic side eye one, if I am right about the one you are referring to). Are you telling us that the only people who have unimpressed faces are white people and therefore only white children can post that meme (by the logic you are displaying on this thread).

TBH I feel quite sorry for your kid. It's Summer. All his friends are travelling so he's alone and his mum gives him 15 minutes twice a week to talk to his friends. He's 11 ffs. Imagine how isolating that is. Poor kid.

Ivyy · 17/08/2024 14:50

The bombastic side-eye meme isn't racist, can be used for anyone and indeed even animals like pp have shown, dd used to like taking pics of our dog giving the side eye look and making them into gifs etc, that was a while ago now, Seem to hear / see more about giving the side eye now rather than the bombastic part being used.

Op I wouldn't have a problem with this one, but I would have a big issue with him having friends who use the n word, I'd have a heart to heart about that with him. Had this with dd's a while ago, sadly it's all over their sm and so many kids using the word. She asked me why it was ok to say if you're black but not if you're white. She understood enough to get how offensive it is, she can't stop others using it unfortunately, I was really shocked and felt like we've taken a huge step back with kids and casual but obvs not casual racism, slurs etc in recent years. It's all over Tiktok Snapchat etc and in their day to day lives with other young people. We can ban or limit access to apps, but when it comes to friends and generally other young people they come into contact with, we can't control what others say or do. All I could do was have a big heart to heart and discussion with dd about it, and the other popular slur at the time to call anyone behaving in a weird or geeky way Autistic. I'm autistic and so is dd btb. Hate the way some of this language is being used and always seems to stem from the sm apps and platforms. Then some kids see it as the norm. Wish we could go back in time sometimes. But that's a different topic!

TheGander · 17/08/2024 14:53

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/08/2024 14:27

You totally agree he shouldn't be on WhatsApp... yet you allow him on WhatsApp...

He’s already accused her of trying to separate him from his friends . Tweens and teens can be incredibly forceful and manipulative in their quest to be on social media. I wouldn’t kick the OP for that.

fuckingbastard · 17/08/2024 14:53

Giving the side eye as a black person is not racist it is cultural and exceptionally funny. Your son got it right.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 17/08/2024 14:56

GreyTS · 17/08/2024 13:56

Gotta love white people, always jumping in to tell people shit is not racist 🙄 my friend is black and she doesn't find that racist.....same on a thread the other day, Irish people explaining calmly why a saying was offensive but no you all know better, your Irish grandmother/ friend/partner think it's hilarious. Honestly you Brits are literally violently racist, just say you don't give a shit and stop trying to justify yourselves and your language towards minorities

And what about the black people saying it's not racist?

*some Brits are violently racist. They are massively condemned as we have seen

"You Brits" is bordering on Xenophobia

fuckingbastard · 17/08/2024 14:56

Never use the n word though. It would get you expelled from school before you finished saying the world. It could get you cancelled in 50 years times. Who knows.

Nowordsformethanks · 17/08/2024 14:58

Firstly, continuing to interact with people who think it's okay to use the N word showing a black person dancing is a problem. No wonder the water is muddled when those people are still tolerated or "friends" afterwards. If he's tolerating it, he's accepting it. I'd teach your son the phrase "Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are".

Secondly, using the side eye meme isn't racist if you're using it like every other meme or gif to convey what you're doing. In this case, to convey that you're giving someone the side eye. It doesn't matter the race of the person in the meme/gif.

Using the side eye meme is only racist if you're using the image of that person as a joke because of their race.

whyNotaNice · 17/08/2024 15:03

Are you yourselves black? My Black fb friends chose memes and things only with Black people on them. They like it

whyNotaNice · 17/08/2024 15:04

I have ladies post inspirational images on fb and they are black or mixed. So they carefully curate what they post so it is only mixed race or black women on them