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(168 Posts)Yet another fantastic letter from Baroness Nicholson to La Leche League re their stance on “chest feeding”.
twitter.com/baroness_nichol/status/1334210792468717573?s=21
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I thought I couldn’t admire the baroness more...and then she did this...
That is wonderful.
‘I hope you will take my points as of overwhelming importance for the survival of your British Branch’
Amazing!
She is so good. I wouldn't want to try to win an argument against her.
Oh that is splendid work. She has a gift for clarity.
Fantastic letter. Thank you Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne 
I wish we had a Baroness Nicholson in my country!!
Beautifully written
She's very good at this
She's a wonderful writer, isn't she? Eloquent, just the right amount of stern, to the point.
Brilliant letter. LLL should hang their heads in shame, the utter embarrassment's.
Wow, she's just fantastic. What a woman 
She is awesome 
I love her very careful use of 'male chest liquid' rather than 'milk'.
I found breastfeeding hard and, when I eventually moved to formula, it was all about making sure that my babies were fed and happy and absolutely nothing to do with personal validation...
YAS. Legend.
This particular issue ("chestfeeding", appropriation of breastfeeding support, etc) really gets on my tits.
Pun intended obvs.
Nope that's not enough. She is truly and utterly magnificent. That letter is clear and concise and demonstrates how far La Ledge has fallen.
Bigger. La leche
I’ve seen this reference before and looked into it as I’d no idea that LLLGB had stopped using “breastfeeding” and started using “chestfeeding”, but that’s not actually what’s happened.
In all, bar none, of their literature they use “breastfeeding”, they have included (not substituted for) “chestfeeding” in their transgender and non binary information. For those who appreciate the inclusion of an alternative name.
I could see the issue if LLLGB had completely annihilated the term breastfeeding but they’ve not, they don’t even include “chestfeeding” in the vast, vast majority of their text, it’s only there if you’ve specifically sought that advice, information or support.
How does this negatively impact you?
I absolutely LOVE her.
Wonderful letter. Impossible for anyone with an ounce of sanity to disagree with her.
Male chest liquid is really giving me the ick. The thought of feeding it to a baby is horrendous.
PinkyU
I’ve seen this reference before and looked into it as I’d no idea that LLLGB had stopped using “breastfeeding” and started using “chestfeeding”, but that’s not actually what’s happened.
In all, bar none, of their literature they use “breastfeeding”, they have included (not substituted for) “chestfeeding” in their transgender and non binary information. For those who appreciate the inclusion of an alternative name.
I could see the issue if LLLGB had completely annihilated the term breastfeeding but they’ve not, they don’t even include “chestfeeding” in the vast, vast majority of their text, it’s only there if you’ve specifically sought that advice, information or support.
How does this negatively impact you?
It’s not just about the awful term “chest feeding” it’s about the fact that LLL are saying it’s perfectly fine for a male to pump himself full of artificial hormones in order to produce a synthetic “milk” and to feed that to an infant. No consideration for the infant and what effect said drugs might have on them, it’s all about the validation of the male ego.
And then of course there’s the issue of permitting Transwomen to attend breastfeeding support groups for women only.
PinkyU
I’ve seen this reference before and looked into it as I’d no idea that LLLGB had stopped using “breastfeeding” and started using “chestfeeding”, but that’s not actually what’s happened.
In all, bar none, of their literature they use “breastfeeding”, they have included (not substituted for) “chestfeeding” in their transgender and non binary information. For those who appreciate the inclusion of an alternative name.
I could see the issue if LLLGB had completely annihilated the term breastfeeding but they’ve not, they don’t even include “chestfeeding” in the vast, vast majority of their text, it’s only there if you’ve specifically sought that advice, information or support.
How does this negatively impact you?
So you’re saying that it’s ok to talk about natal males “chest feeding” a baby if you only mention it a few times?
The protocol used to induce lactation is the same that’s used for adoptive parents, same sex couples, parents seeking to relactate, those who have IGT or have undergone mastectomy’s.
Whilst not ideal (as in anything that requires outside influence in a natural event), it’s not unsafe provided any medications are monitored.
Do you have an issue with all of the above also?
PinkyU
I’ve seen this reference before and looked into it as I’d no idea that LLLGB had stopped using “breastfeeding” and started using “chestfeeding”, but that’s not actually what’s happened.
In all, bar none, of their literature they use “breastfeeding”, they have included (not substituted for) “chestfeeding” in their transgender and non binary information. For those who appreciate the inclusion of an alternative name.
I could see the issue if LLLGB had completely annihilated the term breastfeeding but they’ve not, they don’t even include “chestfeeding” in the vast, vast majority of their text, it’s only there if you’ve specifically sought that advice, information or support.
How does this negatively impact you?
It's all explained in Baroness Nicholson's letter, did you read it?
It's about males taking a drug that is forbidden for children, to create liquid to feed a baby. A drug that causes heart failure in men. How is that in the best interests of any baby?
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