Join the mixed-sex loo resistance movement!

[WomanBornNotWorn]

Ideas for what we can do:

Theatres etc - go up to box office loudly asking 'where are the ladies'?' again and again as loudly as you can so the representative has to keep repeating the answer - if you're in a group, take it in turns for variety.

Ring an offending restaurant and book a table for six. Then ask 'I assume you have separate men's and women's loos?' then when they say no, say 'ah no, that doesn't work for us. I'll cancel that and we'll book at (name bitterest rival restaurant that does have separate loos) instead'. Get everyone you know to do it. Make sure you've blocked your number.

Come out of cubicle with full moon cup and wash it out in front of any men present (just pray they're not menophiliac).

Stickers. Lots of stickers.

Learn the statistics so you can recite the evidence of sexual assaults in mixed space etc etc whenever you're contradicted. 'In fact, Home Office statistics show that xx% ... ' etc.

Train your daughters to understand why we are saying no and to have the confidence to speak out. And your sons, too.

Yeah, sure if you want us all to look like loons

Yeah, sure if you want us all to look like loons

Hahahahaha!!

Because it's loony to wash out your moon cup, enquire where the ladies is, and ask if men will be in there.

The only loony thing is you thinking it's loony 🤣

Who's us, Ringdonna? No one is expecting you to do anything, judging by your posts.

Yeah, sure if you want us all to look like loons

I do like my right to vote. Thank fuck you weren't at the first Suffragettes planning meeting.

Thank fuck you weren't at the first Suffragettes planning meeting

Made me laugh ... thank you

Good idea. (Mooncup at the ready)

Excellent ideas.

Also, if your company talks about making all toilets "gender neutral", correct their language to "mixed sex". Loudly and publicly ask them to confirm that there will be separate provision for women as per the Equality Act 2010.

It shows how far we've come when people actually think will be considered insane for exposing the reasons why women need sex segregated toilets and why we don't want men present while we rinse out our moon cup.

If people don't understand the concept of privacy, I assume they'd be okay with the public witnessing their prostate exam? Or why not dispense with toilet doors all together - we can all take a shit in a toilet in the middle of the room. Make it a feature.

*they will be considered insane...

"Loos by their very nature are gender neutral, they're inanimate objects. But provision should remain single sex, not mixed sex, in line with the Equality Act 2010. No, gender identity is not a protected characteristic. Really, it isn't. Go and check. No, you can't just rewrite an Act of Parliament because you feel like it. No, it hasn't been changed. Otherwise it wouldn't be dated 2010, would it?"

My work hate me

Loudly and publicly ask them to confirm that there will be separate provision for women as per the Equality Act 2010.

Doesn't this come under health and safety legislation where workplaces are concerned?

Defenestrator you rock

I'm post menopausal but may buy a moon cup, fill it with likely-looking red liquid just to wash out at the mixed-sex basins in the mixed-sex loos.

Loudly and publicly ask them to confirm that there will be separate provision for women as per the Equality Act 2010

Doesn't this come under health and safety legislation where workplaces are concerned?

Oh, I don't know. There was talk of making all the loos in my work building "gender-neutral". A few women raised the issue of the Equality Act around single sex provision but I didn't hear anyone talk of H&S

Doesn't this come under health and safety legislation where workplaces are concerned?

Yes. They are required to provide single room conveniences where there are not separate male and female facilities.

www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/toilets.htm

The relevant legislation is the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992. Regulation 20, Sanitary conveniences

If there are gender neutral toilets then anybody should be able to go into either toilet, end of. If a person who looks like e.g. Brian Blessed can use the ladies on the assertion of 'a feeling' then I can use the men's even though I'm wearing a dress, tights and heels. They're either all mixed sex or not. Anything else is discrimination, as is questioning me being a man. I'm a man because I say I am.

Except I wouldn't actually do this because I'm not a dick, and I think about the men in my life who would be rather embarrassed sharing a public toilet facility with a woman and also how the man at the next urinal might be a bit put off his flow by me using a she-wee next to him.

Can we get a list of places that have gone 'gender neutral', then any of us who are due to be near/in one of them can take up the task of being 'problematic'

Except I wouldn't actually do this because I'm not a dick, and I think about the men in my life who would be rather embarrassed sharing a public toilet facility with a woman and also how the man at the next urinal might be a bit put off his flow by me using a she-wee next to him.

Which is why the only people that this benefits is those who don't give a fuck if they're upsetting other people when they are in a vulnerable position.

I'm post menopausal but may buy a moon cup, fill it with likely-looking red liquid just to wash out at the mixed-sex basins in the mixed-sex loos.

Snap - I have two in the drawer, I also have a bottle of old red hair dye spare; I might pop them all in my bag for the opportunity that is bound to arise in the near future.

It does worry me especially when you consider that in many public separated women's toilets there was once a policy of having stickers that you could take off and hand to a member of staff if you were wanting to disclose DV or indicate that you needed help and the perpetrator was present. With mixed sex toilets your perpetrator can now follow you in without question.

Datun - sorry, I didn't mean anyone was a dick for wanting to do this! God knows I'm tempted some days though. I meant that I wished people who say 'it's just a toilet' and 'you can pee next to me' would consider why we have these provisions in the first place. It's not unreasonable to want privacy when you're engaging in personal care and/or are in a vulnerable position.

In this progressive new age your perpetrator just has a kink, silly!

And rapists gonna rape whatever so really why do we bother with any safeguarding at all?

(sorry all out of constructive comments in the face of the barrage of stupid thinking women are currently facing)

WhatsNextMrsLandingham

Datun - sorry, I didn't mean anyone was a dick for wanting to do this! God knows I'm tempted some days though

No no, I didn't mean that. Sorry, I expressed myself badly. I think this civil disobedience is an excellent way of highlighting the problem.

What I meant was, (in the normal course of events, outside a protest), decent people don't want to go into the opposite sex toilets because they don't want to make the occupants uncomfortable.

So who are you left with? Who does it actually benefit?

Historic Scotland has gone gender neutral and they admitted in their assesmen5 that it would be problem matic for some women

They didn’t give 2 fucks and went ahead anyway

Cowards historic Scotland

www.historicenvironment.scot/media/5912/eqia-site-visitor-toilets-refurbishment.pdf?hootPostID=31b1e9a97971699c13dd956a1c8aa7ca