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BBC Bias - Collecting Examples here

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Wanderabout · 04/07/2018 06:56

The lack of representation of the impact on women's rights on Newsnight last night while the clear problems were dismissed was ridiculous.

This thread is collecting examples of BBC failing to provide balance in representing women's concerns.

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R0wantrees · 31/10/2018 15:28

Reminder of the letter by Fairplay for Women July 2018:

'Open letter to the BBC: Please uphold your duty for fairness and ensure women’s voices are heard'

Dear Tony Hall,
We are writing to ask you, as Director-General of the BBC, for reassurance that the BBC will uphold its responsibilities to provide balanced, fair coverage with regard to political and public debate about women’s rights in relation to transgender issues.

At the Westminster Social Policy Forum in June, a BBC executive revealed that the new BBC’s style guide for journalists is being revised to change the way BBC journalists approach transgender issues. These issues are receiving more and more coverage and the Government will be opening a public consultation on Gender Recognition Act on Tuesday 3rd July. This is now an urgent matter and the content of your style guide is of crucial importance.

We are writing to ask you to ensure that amid these developments, the updated BBC style guide ensures coverage is balanced and properly reflects the potential implications for women and their legal rights, and the concerns that many people feel about those implications.

We want to live in a world where transgender people can live freely and happily without discrimination. We also want our own rights and protections as women to remain workable.

To make sure that happens, we need to talk, as a nation, about some pretty big questions, such as:

At what point, if any, does society believe a man can actually become a woman?

How do we protect the group in society with female biology if society agrees ‘women’ no longer describes them exclusively?

The answers to these questions have unprecedented implications for women’s sex-based rights. If anyone can choose their sex based on how they feel, not biology, surgery or a medical diagnosis, rights women now take for granted become meaningless in law and practice.

Things like:

The right for all women and girls to choose single sex spaces in certain sensitive situations, such as when changing or showering, or sleeping in shared accommodation
The right for women to choose to compete in single sex sports at any level
The importance of statistics such as equal pay, crime statistics etc to be collected on the basis of biological sex as well as or instead of the gender people say they feel
That even voicing opinions on and demands for women’s rights not be labelled or even considered ‘hate speech’ or ‘discrimination’, even when they may conflict with the demands of some trans rights activists
The right to meet and organise politically with other women about issues that affect us on the basis of our female biology

“Transwomen are women” is opinion not fact
We do not feel the BBC has given due weight to such critical and far reaching issues that have the potential to affect every woman and girl in Britain today. And none of these questions can be even considered in a political debate if the conversation starts from the assumption that transwomen are exactly the same as biological women.

We understand this is a complicated and sensitive subject. We are firmly for respectful debate, and have no wish to unnecessarily offend. But too much is at stake here for too many women, and we must be able to have a full and frank debate as a nation. We cannot do that if assertions are presented as though they are fact, uncritically and without question.

The essence of our concern is that the BBC, consciously or otherwise, appears to be accepting and reporting as facts things that are in fact the subject of contention. The manner in which BBC content describes and reports aspects of the debate around transgender people and their legal rights means that the BBC is effectively taking a side in that debate, instead of upholding its commitment to neutrality and balance.

The manner in which BBC content describes and reports aspects of the debate around transgender people and their legal rights could mean the BBC is effectively taking a side in that debate, instead of upholding its commitment to neutrality and balance.

It is imperative that journalists and producers are given urgent and clear guidance from senior editorial management on how to report this issue.

Legally speaking, a male-born person who identifies as female is can only be said to be a woman if they hold a Gender Recognition Certificate under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. To present any other male-born transgender person to BBC audiences as a woman (either explicitly or by implication) is to make a judgement on an area of contention and controversy.

The new BBC style guide must ensure women’s voices are heard fairly and equally
The Government has announced its intention to consult on matters of law such as the Gender Recognition Act in the coming weeks. In a recent response to a Parliamentary petition requesting that women’s concerns and legal rights be respected in this process, the Government confirmed that it recognises women’s groups as legitimate stakeholder in this process. A similar position has been taken by the Office of the Leader of the Opposition, which has promised to consult women’s groups on Labour Party policy on transgender issues.

In short, the people who set policy on this area accept that women’s voices must be heard fairly and equally in debate about such policy. We are concerned that the BBC does not have policies and practices in place that ensure its own content ensures such balance.

Given the growing salience of gender issues in political debate and the imminent Government consultation, please provide the answers to the following questions, in the hope of allaying our concerns over your coverage of that debate:

As a matter of policy, what guidance is given to BBC editorial staff about how to ensure the voices of women concerned about the impact on their rights in relation to trans issues are fairly represented?
What is BBC policy on the introduction and presentation of self-identifying women to BBC audiences? What guidance is given to editorial staff about whether and how to explain the status of such speakers, their gender and the pronouns used in relation to them?
Have any external groups been consulted regarding your update of editorial style guidelines in relation to these issues, and if so who?
When will the updated style guide be published?

Yours, Fair Play for Women"
fairplayforwomen.com/open-letter-to-bbc/

arranfan · 03/11/2018 21:43

Thought provoking thread from Paul Bernal:

No-one expects the BBC to be perfect. Everyone makes mistakes - God knows I make plenty. The issue comes when there’s a pattern to the mistakes, when the mistakes generally point in the same direction. (Short thread)
...
Each of these mistakes/errors of judgment/dodgy calls is distinctly questionable - but when they are seen together, they make a picture that’s much more concerning. It looks like a pattern.

And the reaction of the BBC is perhaps even more disturbing. Not ‘OK, perhaps we should look at this again’, but ‘You’re wrong, how dare you question us,’ or words to that effect.

t’s not a good look - and it matters. The BBC matters - it has a unique role and a unique history and has a degree of respect that is pretty much unparalleled in media, not just in the UK but around the world. (continues and worth reading)

twitter.com/PaulbernalUK/status/1058682808103772161

R0wantrees · 15/11/2018 10:40

Interesting initiative by the BBC World Service:

'BBC launches huge new international anti-disinformation initiative'
(extract)
"The BBC will be launching the Beyond Fake News project on 12 November with the release of findings from original BBC research into how and why disinformation is shared.
The Beyond Fake News project launches on 12 November
Original research into what makes people share false stories
Major season of global documentaries, special reports and features on the BBC’s international networks across TV, radio and online
Roll out of media literacy programme and hackathons, conferences in India and Kenya
Around the globe, disinformation has been seen to cause social and political harm, with people having less trust in the news, or in some cases being subjected to violence or death as a result. The BBC’s Beyond Fake News project aims to fight back with a major focus on global media literacy, panel debates in India and Kenya, hackathons exploring tech solutions and a special season of programming across the BBC’s networks in Africa, India, Asia Pacific, Europe, and the Americas. The research to be released publicly on 12 November comes after users gave the BBC unprecedented access to their encrypted messaging apps in India, Kenya, and Nigeria.

The Beyond Fake News media literacy programme has already begun delivering workshops in India and Kenya. It draws on the BBC’s pioneering work to tackle disinformation in the UK, where digital literacy workshops have also been delivered to schools across the country.

Jamie Angus, Director of the BBC World Service Group, says: “In 2018 I pledged that the BBC World Service Group would move beyond just talking about the global ‘fake news’ threat, and take concrete steps to address it. Poor standards of global media literacy, and the ease with which malicious content can spread unchecked on digital platforms mean there’s never been a greater need for trustworthy news providers to take proactive steps.

"We have put our money where our mouth is and invested in real action on the ground in India and in Africa. From funding in-depth research into sharing behaviours online, to rolling out media literacy workshops globally, and by pledging to bring BBC Reality Check to some of the world’s most important upcoming elections, this year we’re carving our path as a leading global voice for spotting the problems, and setting out ambitious solutions.”

Follow on social media with #BeyondFakeNews" (continues)

www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/beyond-fake-news?

RedToothBrush · 16/11/2018 12:24

Private Eye Magazine @ privateeyenews
The BBC finally cracks down on the IEA, Taxpayers' Alliance and the other lobbyists it gives unlimited airtime to - with a new set of editorial guidelines that make things as clear as mud. Full details in the new Private Eye, on sale now.

Does anyone know anymore about this?

What with Mermaids being a lobby group and all that...

ChattyLion · 04/12/2018 08:41

Wow an absolutely staggering bit of porn apologism here from the BBC: www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46435975

World: Tumblr, you’re hosting child rape images, this has to stop now
Tumblr: Ok then, we’ll have less child rape images if we take all pornography off our site
World: Excellent
BBC: but where’s all the porn gone? You’ve marginalised us!

Honestly, you couldn’t make it up.

OtepotiLilliane42 · 04/12/2018 09:25

Re the Fox and Owl non-binary video - isn't that just re-inventing the whole gender bending, androgynous movement from the 1970s? Deliberately provocative yes, but a hell of a lot more playful than the current incarnation.

Yeahnahyeah · 04/12/2018 10:12

ChattyLion yes, staggering.

BubonicTheHedgehag · 22/12/2018 23:16

Off to one side a bit, but I was half-watching that showjumping from Olympia on telly this afternoon.

When each horse and rider came into the arena, the BBC put a brief information caption along the bottom - Little flag to denote country represented, Name of rider, age.

Then similar for the horse. Name of horse. Age. And then, Gender!

Did anyone go around beforehand, checking with those horses what they identify as, what is their actual gender, and what pronouns should be used????!!!

Won't anyone think of the horses????!!!!

I really, really hope no horse was misgendered, BBC.

R0wantrees · 29/12/2018 12:02

Radio 4 Today program affirming interview with Travis Alabanza about their 'non-binary' identity:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3462982-Radio-4-cis-people-who-are-safe-in-the-world

R0wantrees · 18/01/2019 17:33

littlecabbage wroe:
"Have just sent the following complaint to the BBC:

"It is deliberately misleading and inaccurate to describe crime committed by a biologically male person as being committed by a woman. It is well known that violent crime is statistically far more likely to be committed by males, and if this particular news story was about a genuinely biologically female criminal, that would be more unusual and shocking.

It is not possible to actually change biological sex, however much an individual may wish to, so this person should be described as a transwoman, not as a woman. That is not discriminatory or transphobic, but simply factually accurate."

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3482354-Another-woman-involved-in-violent-attack?

R0wantrees · 22/01/2019 12:49

Aimee Challenor has (yet another) opportunity to control the narrative through a BBC interview:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3486244-Radio-5-Live-interview-with-Aimee-Challenor

R0wantrees · 22/01/2019 13:00

current thread re BBC reponse to complaint.
Response suggested:

PencilsInSpace Sat 19-Jan-19 16:04:12
"Thank you for your further response to my complaint. Unfortunately this still fails to address the points I have raised.

You state that 'We think it is reasonable to describe the occasions where those with different views have confronted each other publicly as ‘clashes’', however this context is factually incorrect. The footage of both incidents you used - Hyde Park and Bristol - showed women attempting to meet to discuss their rights, and trans rights activists attempting to stop those meetings from happening. The women were not there to 'confront' these activists, and as far as I am aware, there are no occasions when women have sought a confrontation.

The first clip, at Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park, shows three male assailants hitting a woman while the presenter's voice says 'Those with opposing views have clashed'.

The woman who was hit was not there seeking a 'clash' or a 'confrontation'. None of the women's side were, they were simply attempting to attend a meeting. Incidentally, the meeting was not in Hyde Park itself, the women had arranged to meet there to be given details of the venue because it was the only way the meeting could be held without these same trans rights activists harassing the venue to shut it down. The police attended after the assault, they did not intervene. They were called and took witness statements because three male assailants had hit a woman. One of the assailants was later caught and prosecuted.

The second clip, at Bristol JamJar, shows trans rights activitists attempting to prevent women from entering a venue which they had booked for a meeting. Once again, the women had not come for a 'clash' or a 'confrontation', they simply wished to enter the building and attend a meeting for which they had bought tickets. The behaviour of the trans rights activists was extremely aggressive and intimidatory. The police did intervene on this occasion, however this was not to break up a 'clash' or a 'confrontation', it was to ensure the speakers and ticket holders could safely enter the venue.

In my previous response I said, 'You state that the press have reported on incidents on 'both sides' yet fail to provide any evidence of this. Please provide details of which violent and intimidatory 'incidents' have been carried out by women's groups.'

You have not provided details of any such 'incidents' in your latest response. To reiterate, to the best of my knowledge there are no incidents where women have been violent or intimidatory, or have 'confronted' trans rights activists. Women's groups do not protest these activists' meetings or events. If you have any evidence to the contrary then please provide it. Otherwise please concede that there is no evidence to support the dangerous and biased 'both sides' narrative presented by this report.

[add stuff about trump?]"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3482982-BBC-complaints

R0wantrees · 14/02/2019 16:34

current thread:
OP ValWiggin wrote:
"... because they believe it is a “contentious issue” and doing so might “imply the BBC supported one side or another.”

www.bpas.org/about-our-charity/press-office/press-releases/women-s-healthcare-bodies-call-on-bbc-to-reverse-stance-on-abortion-information/

I don't see how simple factual info to a legal and necessary service is "supporting one side". The link includes the letter asking that they reverse their current stance on providing links to information about abortion, co-signed by British Pregnancy Advisory Service (bpas), Brook, the Faculty of Sexual and Reproductive Healthcare, Family Planning Association (FPA), Marie Stopes UK, the Royal College of Midwives, and the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3508014-BBC-wont-have-links-to-abortion-info-on-its-Action-Line

R0wantrees · 16/02/2019 20:26

Guardian article by Suzanne Moore,
'Call the Midwife takes women’s side over abortion. But the BBC is failing us'
"The broadcaster’s refusal to provide information on a legal medical procedure shows it does not support women’s choices"
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/call-the-midwife-women-abortion-bbc-information

R0wantrees · 02/03/2019 11:17

current thread, OP MrsSnippyPants wrote:
'Sonia Poulton dropped from BBC Big Questions

twitter.com/SoniaPoulton/status/1101781947108524033

For those that don't Twit;

"Just been dropped from @bbcbigquestions tomorrow. Booked to talk about intolerance & how 'hate' is used to silence people. Now I'm silenced. Producer 'didn't know why' but I told her. BBC remove gender critical voices from debate upon request. My court tweets worked against me."

My eyes have rolled so far back I can see my arse."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3521931-Sonia-Poulton-dropped-from-BBC-Big-Questions

OldCrone post:
"Another tweet from Sonia:

"I had already told the researcher that this would happen and she confirmed that 'Yes the BBC do remove GC voices if other guest refuses to appear with them'. I say remove the other guest not the one who is willing to talk."

EweSurname · 03/03/2019 19:36

Not sure if this belongs here but the reporting of Martina Navratilova and Sharron Davis coming out to support women’s sports has been consistently framed in terms of them apologising for what they’ve said or being criticised for it, when they’ve actually had a lot of support

ChattyLion · 08/04/2019 09:01

BBC bias being shown today when there is a front page of the Times Newspaper questioning the experimental treatment of children via NHS gender identity clinics- www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3553935-Times-article-calls-to-end-transgender-experiment-on-children

TERFApparently · 11/06/2019 11:01

Not sure if it counts as bias. But someone's just used the terms 'TERF' and 'SWERF' on Emma Barnett without being pulled up on their use of language. Pretty sure any other hate speech would be called out.

Hulo · 11/06/2019 11:07

On the BBC website there is an interview with Munroe. The interview and the issue with the NSPCC was mentioned in the local news bulletin on BBC Breakfast (London news).

As the presenter was winding up he specifically mentioned the interview again and recommended people watch it

TriptychDebbie · 11/06/2019 11:14

Matthew Wright left over OTT trans sensitivity

He also blocked all the women on Twitter who questioned his comment that women are just as violent as men and then sent him the MoJ statistics.

R0wantrees · 11/06/2019 11:18

On the BBC website there is an interview with Munroe. The interview and the issue with the NSPCC was mentioned in the local news bulletin on BBC Breakfast (London news).

BBC’s LGBT Correspondent, Ben Hunte gives Munroe Bergdorf an unquestioning platform.

Subtitles indicate BBC bias with unevidenced allegations including the starting of online organisations "against Munroe Bergdorf"

Hmm

www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-48590026/trans-people-like-second-class-citizens

Hulo · 11/06/2019 18:34

Munroe is on again this evening on the BBC local London news. Will get a free platform no doubt.