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Nonbinary Lesbian Answering Questions

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ash2301 · 29/09/2019 19:56

Hi- I'm a nonbinary lesbian teen, and I want to help answer parents' questions about their LGBT+ kids/any other questions you have. Please be respectful, but there's no such thing as a stupid question Smile

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Bloomburger · 29/09/2019 20:01

I have no idea what a non binary lesbian is 😬

thirdfiddle · 29/09/2019 20:04

How do you define nonbinary and how do you define lesbian?

Pinkyyy · 29/09/2019 20:05

How can you be non-binary and a lesbian? If you're not a female then I don't see how that's possible.

gamerchick · 29/09/2019 20:08

No idea what that is these days. Same sex attracted makes more sense than all this lady penis stuff. You know where you are with that.

joystir59 · 29/09/2019 20:13

What is your biological sex?

gamerchick · 29/09/2019 20:14

You could start there. What sex was observed at your birth then people might be able to ask questions?

PillarOfSalt · 29/09/2019 20:17

In what way are you ‘non binary’ and why do you feel that you have to describe yourself as such? I’ve been a short haired, flat shod, no make up, trouser wearing woman for the last 34 years but no ones ever asked me whether I’m actually a woman or not. Should I consider becoming a non-binary? Do I have to pass some kind of a test and wear a badge?

ash2301 · 29/09/2019 20:18

"Nonbinary" means to not exclusively identify as male or female. I personally identify as about 2/3rds female to 1/3 neutral. This means that my attraction to women is gay and I like some gendered terms like "girlfriend", but I use they/them pronouns and have chosen a neutral name.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 29/09/2019 20:20

Yes but what is your biological sex? Smile

OrchidInTheSun · 29/09/2019 20:20

What does 2/3 female mean? Does it mean you wear mascara and a pretty bra but favour DMs and have short hair?

Please could you explain?

gamerchick · 29/09/2019 20:22

So you were born female?

ash2301 · 29/09/2019 20:22

Not at all. Nonbinary doesn't relate to gender presentation at all. I am quite "feminine"-presenting (makeup, bob) and pass as a cis girl completely, and obviously there are lots of gender-nonconforming cis people too. I feel uncomfortable being referred to using she/her pronouns, which is how I came to realise that I am nonbinary. I experimented with he/him but that didn't feel right either, so now I use they/them. It sounds very wishy-washy to say that I "just felt" nonbinary, but that really is what it was.

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YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 29/09/2019 20:23

I was a goth and wanted to be a vampire when I was your age. I mean really wanted to be.

I wasn’t though, no matter how much black lipstick I wore.

Whatevskev · 29/09/2019 20:23

I am trying so hard to word this without appearing rude but can you see why people might feel the very need to define yourself in such precise terms as a bit nonsense? 2/3 female and 1/3 NB?

I’m female but I don’t align myself with many gendered roles or rules. Why should any of us? They are all made up. But I don’t have even an inkling why that makes me less female?

What do you mean precisely by 2/3 female- which bits of you?

donquixotedelamancha · 29/09/2019 20:24

I use they/them pronouns

I think everyone uses that when talking about more than one person. It's not a gay thing.

PillarOfSalt · 29/09/2019 20:25

Have you considered getting a hobby? Do you think most people have enough time/ effort/ narcissism to decide what percentage of their mind is male or female?

ash2301 · 29/09/2019 20:25

Gender and gendered presentation are not the same thing. My choice of clothes etc. has no relationship with my gender identity. I say "2/3rds female" because my attraction to woman is definitely gay. When I am in a relationship I am a girlfriend, and I feel comfortable passing as a cis girl. However, there is definitely a part of me that is not female, and doesn't like she/her pronouns or some aspects of my biological sex (I'm assigned female at birth to answer another question). I can't exactly measure how much of myself isn't female as this isn't a science, but I use the 2/3rds statistic because I feel it gets my point across quite well.

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Bloomburger · 29/09/2019 20:25

So you're a girl who has a vagina and you fancy girls?

katalavenete · 29/09/2019 20:25

about 2/3rds female to 1/3 neutral

Define female.

donquixotedelamancha · 29/09/2019 20:25

I feel uncomfortable being referred to using she/her pronouns

Ignore pp, cross post. You mean you want everyone else to use a plural pronoun when referring to you?

gamerchick · 29/09/2019 20:26

Cis is a prohibited word on here and many of us find it offensive. Please do not use it.

ash2301 · 29/09/2019 20:26

Nonbinary means not to exclusively identify as male or female, not necessarily to shun those labels altogether.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 29/09/2019 20:26

Also, can you see how the concept of non binary actually undermines women’s rights and reinforces patriarchal ideas of what men and women ‘are’?

Therefore a young woman who doesn’t feel an affinity with traditionally female conditioning might say she’s non binary, which plays into the idea that if you’re not performing ‘femininity’ you’re not a woman - whereas actually she is a woman who just isn’t into reinforcing gender stereotypes.

OrchidInTheSun · 29/09/2019 20:27

What part of you is not female? If it's not your clothes, what is it?

ash2301 · 29/09/2019 20:27

I meant that those are the pronouns I like people to use to refer to me, sorry for the poor phrasing

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