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AIBU to be shocked that this isn't common knowledge?

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DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 19:47:20

If you go to the pub, or a restaurant, you're not supposed to mix households, or be outside your bubble.

I thought this was all pretty clear - you distance from anyone not in your bubble. 2 metres, or 1 metre with screens, masks or something similar.

And I haven't bothered with the pub or whatever because what's the fun in waving at people from behind a screen. But that's not what people are doing is it? They're sharing tables with friends and getting Covid. Even though it's illegal, and the pub/restaurant can be closed down for it.

I thought the people going out were mostly just eating in a different set of walls with their household - or the posturing mask debaters who tell us it's just a sniffle - but I was honestly shocked on another thread that this isn't common knowledge. How many people are breaking the law?

www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/restaurants-offering-takeaway-or-delivery

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Mintychoc1 Mon 19-Oct-20 19:49:14

I thought bubbles changed to groups of 6, which obviously could vary. Hence you could meet your family one day, then your in-laws the next.

RedDiamond Mon 19-Oct-20 19:49:43

Because we are all getting confused. All the tiers mean different things to different parts of the country. Where I am, we can still mix bubbles and different households and be doing nothing wrong or illegal at all.

FourPlasticRings Mon 19-Oct-20 19:50:37

If you're allowed to gather in groups of six outside your own household in tier 1, why wouldn't you be allowed to be in a pub with them?

PlaiceonEarth Mon 19-Oct-20 19:52:06

In tier 1 you are allowed to go to a restaurant with a group of 6. Those 6 now do not have to be from the same/2 households or bubbles.

6 people from 6 households are allowed.

Jugglingalloftheballs Mon 19-Oct-20 19:52:19

Don’t believe this at all!

The government would not allow us to meet in houses in groups of 6, but not spend money while doing it.

RunBackwards Mon 19-Oct-20 19:53:26

Because it's wrong?

You can't mix households in pubs in High Alert areas but you can in most of the country, up to 6 people.

DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 19:54:54

You have to distance from other households - 2 metres, or 1 metre with a mask or a screen. How is that possible on most restaurant tables?

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chinateapot Mon 19-Oct-20 19:55:24

Also you should be distancing from anyone not in your household bubble even if you have gone out with them for a meal or whatever.

chinateapot Mon 19-Oct-20 19:55:50

It obviously isn’t possible and doesn’t happen. But that’s the theory.

LST Mon 19-Oct-20 19:57:03

This is wrong. In low teir areas you can meet a group of up to 6. They don't have to be the same bubble

MainliningMarzipan Mon 19-Oct-20 19:57:46

Bubbles, tiers, rule of 6, slogan after slogan after stupid bloody slogan. Different rules from one county to another. Lies and damned lies from politicians. Conflicting opinions from so called experts.

And you wonder why people don't know what's going on and what they're allowed to do? Ok then. confused

Abraid2 Mon 19-Oct-20 19:58:00

DameFanny

If you go to the pub, or a restaurant, you're not supposed to mix households, or be outside your bubble.

I thought this was all pretty clear - you distance from anyone not in your bubble. 2 metres, or 1 metre with screens, masks or something similar.

And I haven't bothered with the pub or whatever because what's the fun in waving at people from behind a screen. But that's not what people are doing is it? They're sharing tables with friends and getting Covid. Even though it's illegal, and the pub/restaurant can be closed down for it.

I thought the people going out were mostly just eating in a different set of walls with their household - or the posturing mask debaters who tell us it's just a sniffle - but I was honestly shocked on another thread that this isn't common knowledge. How many people are breaking the law?

www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/restaurants-offering-takeaway-or-delivery

I’m in tier one and went to the pub today with a friend, perfectly legitimately.

satnighttakeaway Mon 19-Oct-20 19:58:14

DameFanny

You have to distance from other households - 2 metres, or 1 metre with a mask or a screen. How is that possible on most restaurant tables?

I've eaten out as normal throughout and every place I've been has reduced the number of tables or moved them around so that they are far enough apart.

Hospitality is a very different beast to 9 months ago - have you actually been to any restaurants?

AliMonkey Mon 19-Oct-20 19:58:17

I agree, OP. People seem to have forgotten this - you can meet in groups of six but if you aren't in a household/bubble with them then you have to socially distance whilst meeting. This is why I've not met friends for meal/drink except in eg a park where we can socially distance.

My in-laws came over one day (first time we'd seen them since February as they live a distance away) and my MIL was very confused by why we kept at one end of the room and made them sit at the other. We did make them drinks so it's wasn't perfect social-distancing but were only close momentarily so we did our best in the circumstances (were supposed to be meeting them outside but awful weather).

DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 19:58:19

And the bubbles aren't groups of 6 - the bubble is your household plus any people you form a support bubble with - for us it's my widowed DM.

But you absolutely can't change your bubble from day to day

And yes, meet in groups of 6 - but 2m apart, or 1m with other measures in place. So in a big back garden it's doable, in a small front room not so much, on a standard restaurant table very unlikely

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RedskyAtnight Mon 19-Oct-20 19:58:36

FourPlasticRings

If you're allowed to gather in groups of six outside your own household in tier 1, why wouldn't you be allowed to be in a pub with them?

You are allowed to be in a pub with them. But you are supposed to socially distance from people not in your household, which isn't normally possible if 6 of you from different households are just sitting round your average table for 6.

DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 19:59:46

@satnighttakeaway I'm talking about people eating at the same table as other households - friends or whoever. I know the tables are further apart, but that doesn't count for anything if you're mixing on the table itself

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DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 20:00:24

Thank you @AliMonkey! Thought I was alone for a bit there!

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Lazypuppy Mon 19-Oct-20 20:00:27

You're allowed to meet in groups of 6.

Bubbles are seperate

PatchworkElmer Mon 19-Oct-20 20:00:51

I’m fairly certain it’s a rule of 6 (from any number of households). Not eating out though, so I will admit that I haven’t watched the rules on this amazingly closely.

Treesofwood Mon 19-Oct-20 20:01:12

Maybe you could buy yourself a plastic pod thing and sit in that. Why would you want to go out for a meal in a mask or with a screen between you all?

AlexandraEiffel Mon 19-Oct-20 20:01:44

This has been baffling me too. My understanding was 6, but you have to maintain distance. Yet I too see endless photos of people in smiling groups of 6 sat close in cafes together, referring to being ok under the rules. A local bar has posted all about their new 'covid-safe' outdoor area with pictures of groups of 6 all sat close together. It makes me think its me being confused. Because it indeed doesn't make sense for 6 people to go to a cafe and sit 2m apart. Yet that's my reading of the rules. I've given up trying to understand and just redirect any invites to going for a walk instead.

DameFanny Mon 19-Oct-20 20:02:24

RunBackwards

Because it's wrong?

You can't mix households in pubs in High Alert areas but you can in most of the country, up to 6 people.

Nope, this is the standard guidance, on the government website since pubs etc opened again, so in force generally

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HeddaGarbled Mon 19-Oct-20 20:03:06

They're sharing tables with friends and getting Covid

There is no evidence that this is a significant source of transmission.

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