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Help need a good excuse to call in “sick” to work

231 replies

colourPink · 23/06/2025 06:43

My toddler is unwell - high temp etc. if i say I’m off to look after him I don’t get paid (and lose £130 a day!) but if I phone in sick I do get paid.

However, I’ve had to do it a few times this year and not sure what illness I can have this time. Advice? (I’ve had quite a few colds/ sickness bugs/ ruiner infections..)

OP posts:
Floridamuma · 24/06/2025 02:30

sesquipedalian · 23/06/2025 06:48

”I’ve had to do it a few times this year”

Sooner or later, you will get found out, OP. In some jobs, they would be looking at your sick days and too many would trigger investigation. I hate to say this, but this is CF behaviour - you’ve had a few days off already, so just take a day off unpaid.

no you won’t. I did it all the time. Our manager also advised it! She was a mum too!

caringcarer · 24/06/2025 06:24

Needspaceforlego · 24/06/2025 02:18

She's a teacher, last minute holidays aren't an option. But thankfully redundancies are unlikely to happen in teaching too.

Teachers are entitled to parental leave for a sick child like everyone else though. Just unpaid.

colourPink · 24/06/2025 06:26

Ohmygodthepain · 23/06/2025 17:17

Your council and HT are breaking the law. You have a statutory right to time off to care for dependents - https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants

Importantly, there is no limit to the number of times you can take emergency dependent leave. I would expect your dh to take an equal hit when looking after your child when poorly.

You may or may not be paid.

Speak to your union.

Edited

Yes..but as that says “your employer may pay you for this time off but they do not have to”

OP posts:
SilverGlitterBaubles · 24/06/2025 06:37

How many mum’s work through their own sickness to save their sick days for these kinds of emergencies? The fact is they are usually the most reliable for this reason others often less so and take sick days for spurious reasons. What are parents supposed to do if they have no alternative and if their workplace does not support them?

MagdaLenor · 24/06/2025 06:51

colourPink · 24/06/2025 06:26

Yes..but as that says “your employer may pay you for this time off but they do not have to”

Yes, that's the whole point, isn't it?
In many schools - every one I've ever worked in - the rule is 5 days with pay, parental/carer leave.
Your HT has stuck to allowing such leave, but making it unpaid.

RH1234 · 24/06/2025 07:03

I would speak to your employer, about the whole situation and sickness for your child. Lying about you being sick won’t help, if called into investigation as to why you had so many sick days, is different to dependant days.

They may have some ways to support you, I.e swapping shifts, remote work, flexi time..

Lying won’t help and will get your managers back up.

Where possible (I know it isn’t always) get your father to cover some sickness, your job is just as important as there’s. Sadly with most the employees we have, it seems to always fall to the Mother.

MagdaLenor · 24/06/2025 07:20

RH1234 · 24/06/2025 07:03

I would speak to your employer, about the whole situation and sickness for your child. Lying about you being sick won’t help, if called into investigation as to why you had so many sick days, is different to dependant days.

They may have some ways to support you, I.e swapping shifts, remote work, flexi time..

Lying won’t help and will get your managers back up.

Where possible (I know it isn’t always) get your father to cover some sickness, your job is just as important as there’s. Sadly with most the employees we have, it seems to always fall to the Mother.

She has no flexibility, she's a teacher.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 24/06/2025 08:16

Petitchat · 24/06/2025 00:30

But I seldom see that same fight these days, just more and more entitlement.

You have a short memory.
I'm a boomer too and in our day, a whole family could live on one wage. (Usually the man's)

The wife went to work part time (if she even wanted to) just for luxuries.
Some married women had careers but usually once the children had grown up.

It didn't take two parents working full time just to survive, like they have to nowadays.

I feel so sorry for young families nowadays, I really do.

Edited

What a lovely middle class idea. My dad worked bloody hard (no minimum wage in those days) and my mum stayed at home because she had no other choice (no granny to manage childcare and no free childcare hours), and we grew up in poverty. Like everyone else around us. When we were older my mum worked part-time and for essentials, not luxuries. We had a B&W TV until 1974 because we couldn't afford colour; we had day trips to the seaside because we couldn't afford domestic holidays, never mind foreign ones; we had a phone in 1979 because my parents wanted one for when I went to university. Times change but be aware that those "two parents working full time" are not "just surviving" when they are, by comparison, much, much better off and their expectations include luxuries like satellite TV packages, pricey mobile phones, foreign holidays....

Your view of recent history is highly inaccurate and very blinkered...

RH1234 · 24/06/2025 08:23

MagdaLenor · 24/06/2025 07:20

She has no flexibility, she's a teacher.

Ah, I didn’t read far back to be honest.

Most my teacher friends have to rely on their partners for their child’s sickness, granted not always possible.

Greenartywitch · 24/06/2025 09:08

@caringcarer
This. In a recession employers look at sickness records when deciding who will lose their jobs. Don't risk your job it's not worth it.

She is a teacher. Hardly at risk of unemployment when we have so many teaching and supply teaching vacancies.

More generally an employer who uses sick leave as the main reason to make someone redundant better make sure that the person does not have a disability/long term health condition or they will end in front of an employment tribunal...

SunnyViper · 24/06/2025 10:00

Ohmygodthepain · 23/06/2025 17:17

Your council and HT are breaking the law. You have a statutory right to time off to care for dependents - https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants

Importantly, there is no limit to the number of times you can take emergency dependent leave. I would expect your dh to take an equal hit when looking after your child when poorly.

You may or may not be paid.

Speak to your union.

Edited

They are not breaking the law. They do offer time off to care for dependents but it is unpaid. OP wants to claim she is sick so she gets paid leave.

fruitflavouredmilk · 24/06/2025 11:26

DurinsBane · 24/06/2025 01:29

What, fully paid? It entitled to the 120 days unpaid? If fully paid that is extremely generous!

80% for 120 days per child.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 24/06/2025 11:36

SunnyViper · 24/06/2025 10:00

They are not breaking the law. They do offer time off to care for dependents but it is unpaid. OP wants to claim she is sick so she gets paid leave.

And, as people manage to keep forgetting, the leave is NOT to look after your dependant when sick etc. It is to make arrangements for their care. Some employers may allow leave (whether or not paid) to look after a dependant but that is not what the law says. What the law says is "reasonable time off" for an emergency, and what is reasonable is as long as a piece of string. Whether or not people like it, the fact is that an employer can say you have two hours to arrange for someone to look after your child (how you arrnage that is your problem) because I need you back in the workplace as there is no cover.

It is also the case that time off is only in cases of emergency - things like scheduled hospital / doctor appointments - anything that you know about in advance - does not qualify.

There is actually no statutory time off to care for dependants.

What often happens on these threads is that people either assume that what their own employer does is "normal" or even that what they think the law should say actually is the law.

caringcarer · 24/06/2025 11:52

Greenartywitch · 24/06/2025 09:08

@caringcarer
This. In a recession employers look at sickness records when deciding who will lose their jobs. Don't risk your job it's not worth it.

She is a teacher. Hardly at risk of unemployment when we have so many teaching and supply teaching vacancies.

More generally an employer who uses sick leave as the main reason to make someone redundant better make sure that the person does not have a disability/long term health condition or they will end in front of an employment tribunal...

This poster isn't even sick herself she just takes sickies when a child is unwell. She better hope the employer doesn't find out she lying about being sick herself again.

Ohmygodthepain · 24/06/2025 16:04

Part 2 of the teacher standards mention personal conduct - this would be a disciplinary matter in every school I've worked in, sorry op.

Unfortunately this is another un-considered cost of parenting. You are allowed time off but it will be unpaid. Lose £130 a day or face getting fired because you're lying about your absence.

TY78910 · 24/06/2025 16:42

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 23/06/2025 11:29

So, to repeat my question, ' what is a return to work meeting'?

Edited to say: I don't work in a school and don't know what this is. Hence asking

Edited

I don’t work in a school but also hold those meetings. It’s to ascertain if you’re fit to work.

TY78910 · 24/06/2025 16:44

PhilippaGeorgiou · 24/06/2025 11:36

And, as people manage to keep forgetting, the leave is NOT to look after your dependant when sick etc. It is to make arrangements for their care. Some employers may allow leave (whether or not paid) to look after a dependant but that is not what the law says. What the law says is "reasonable time off" for an emergency, and what is reasonable is as long as a piece of string. Whether or not people like it, the fact is that an employer can say you have two hours to arrange for someone to look after your child (how you arrnage that is your problem) because I need you back in the workplace as there is no cover.

It is also the case that time off is only in cases of emergency - things like scheduled hospital / doctor appointments - anything that you know about in advance - does not qualify.

There is actually no statutory time off to care for dependants.

What often happens on these threads is that people either assume that what their own employer does is "normal" or even that what they think the law should say actually is the law.

You do however have a pretty generous statutory parental leave www.gov.uk/parental-leave

dizzydizzydizzy · 24/06/2025 17:05

NotsosunnyShropshire · 23/06/2025 06:46

Why can’t you just tell the truth?

Because she doesn't want to lose £130.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 25/06/2025 07:28

TY78910 · 24/06/2025 16:44

You do however have a pretty generous statutory parental leave www.gov.uk/parental-leave

Yes, which must be taken in week long blocks giving at least 21 days notice and may be postponed by the employer for good reason. And is unpaid - the entire point of the OP is that they want paid "leave" hence lying about sickness.

avow · 28/06/2025 10:21

DurinsBane · 24/06/2025 01:29

What, fully paid? It entitled to the 120 days unpaid? If fully paid that is extremely generous!

Paid, yes. Generous, yes. ... As I may have said, distinctly civilised also.

-- Paid, of course, via taxation, the cost of civilisation.

DurinsBane · 28/06/2025 11:16

avow · 28/06/2025 10:21

Paid, yes. Generous, yes. ... As I may have said, distinctly civilised also.

-- Paid, of course, via taxation, the cost of civilisation.

That’s good. Yes, though I don’t like it when taxes go up obviously, I appreciate what they are used for!

Mossey55 · 28/06/2025 18:17

What is a Bradford score and what is CF please

GiddyDuck · 28/06/2025 19:01

The responses on this thread make me weep for this country - honestly, you all sound so unbearable and heartless

MyObservations · 28/06/2025 19:15

colourPink · 23/06/2025 06:43

My toddler is unwell - high temp etc. if i say I’m off to look after him I don’t get paid (and lose £130 a day!) but if I phone in sick I do get paid.

However, I’ve had to do it a few times this year and not sure what illness I can have this time. Advice? (I’ve had quite a few colds/ sickness bugs/ ruiner infections..)

I've got a good idea; how about just being honest?