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Motherbear44 · 13/08/2024 16:32

parkrun500club · 13/08/2024 13:15

Just saw this article which I thought was interesting: Power, presenteeism, and productivity in the return to office debate - IFOW

That was really interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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Despair1 · 13/08/2024 18:46

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 28/07/2024 00:06

It's the classic "But I'm special"
Like others have said, what about those eating for elderly parents, neighbours, pets etc, where does it all end?
If you have care duties during work hours, you need to outsource. If you can't, then find a job that suits your circumstances.
Just because you're a mum, doesn't mean you get special treatment.
A company should treat it's staff as equally as possible.
Funny you don't mention single dads OP,
Lots of people, including singles/childless couples have a lot on too.
Sort your private life out instead of expecting your employer to do it for you.

I agree. Parent's responsibility to sort out childcare){ inc single parents, I am one). The whole WFH situation is out of control, promoting a sense of entitlement to many. It's as if work needs to be fitted into childcare, school runs, deliveries, caring responsibilities, shopping etc etc. A lady I know who works in public service says she doesn't want to return to the office as she doesn't want to use the trains, colleagues in their 50's are finding the journey tiring and becoming less productive. Truly unbelievable how some employees feel that this is their right?

Randomsabreur · 14/08/2024 00:14

Roadworks have just wrecked my commute. Gone from 25 minutes to 1 hour 10 for 8 miles while they dig up all the roads leading from one bit of the city to the motorway. I'm going to be WFH more often while they're on because my normally sensible commute has got bloody ridiculous for a few months... Employer is fine with it because they're actually sensible and care about people getting their work done rather than bums on seats...

LiterallyOnFire · 14/08/2024 00:16

parkrun500club · 13/08/2024 13:15

Just saw this article which I thought was interesting: Power, presenteeism, and productivity in the return to office debate - IFOW

Thanks for that.

GeneralMusings · 14/08/2024 05:59

I really want to move into a wfh job. This is a different world from my (in person) world.

I have 2 degrees but I've been part time since having children (possibly could have been ft if wfh based on this thread!)

Can anyone give me any pointers with career changing or how to get started in a role where I can look to aim 35-40 in a few years when middle aged and presumably not as employable as fresh young graduate....

Donsyb · 14/08/2024 10:49

GeneralMusings · 14/08/2024 05:59

I really want to move into a wfh job. This is a different world from my (in person) world.

I have 2 degrees but I've been part time since having children (possibly could have been ft if wfh based on this thread!)

Can anyone give me any pointers with career changing or how to get started in a role where I can look to aim 35-40 in a few years when middle aged and presumably not as employable as fresh young graduate....

What do you do now? What are your skills? What are your degrees in?

the work from home hub on Facebook has lots of working from home jobs and other resources.

Noangelbuthavingfun · 14/08/2024 20:07

Despair1 · 13/08/2024 18:46

I agree. Parent's responsibility to sort out childcare){ inc single parents, I am one). The whole WFH situation is out of control, promoting a sense of entitlement to many. It's as if work needs to be fitted into childcare, school runs, deliveries, caring responsibilities, shopping etc etc. A lady I know who works in public service says she doesn't want to return to the office as she doesn't want to use the trains, colleagues in their 50's are finding the journey tiring and becoming less productive. Truly unbelievable how some employees feel that this is their right?

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Well - it is a choice and a right to choose. I think it's great so many people realised they don't have to do the slog ! I don't think childcare should be done in working time but I'm much more aligned with looking at outcomes and productivity, not where you are. I haven't had a purely office based role in 8 years and will never do one again. And if a company thinks they can force me - then it doesn't work fir either is us and I'll leave. There are companies that don't work on presenteeism and are thriving and so is their workforce. It's a revelation once you've experienced an outcome based culture . Having said that I do recognise some jobs by their very nature can only ever be done in an office and I'm not talking about those

Despair1 · 14/08/2024 20:19

Noangelbuthavingfun · 14/08/2024 20:07

Well - it is a choice and a right to choose. I think it's great so many people realised they don't have to do the slog ! I don't think childcare should be done in working time but I'm much more aligned with looking at outcomes and productivity, not where you are. I haven't had a purely office based role in 8 years and will never do one again. And if a company thinks they can force me - then it doesn't work fir either is us and I'll leave. There are companies that don't work on presenteeism and are thriving and so is their workforce. It's a revelation once you've experienced an outcome based culture . Having said that I do recognise some jobs by their very nature can only ever be done in an office and I'm not talking about those

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Thanks, it seems that alot of people who wfh talk about outcomes,targets and productivity? What about contracted hours?
Based on my experience,
I'm not convinced that those wfh meet those.
In my profession, wfh isn't an option and there are ongoing service needs 24/7, irrespective of targets being met.
I'm glad you agree that childcare cannot/ shouldn't let accommodated during work time, simply not possible to do both.

Sumshinebound · 19/09/2024 15:16

MM90 · 16/07/2024 12:33

I work for a big, well-known company. The bosses are considering plans to force all colleagues to come to the office 3 days a week. They are thinking about checking our turnstile data individually and disciplining anyone who doesn’t come in for 3 days every week, whether they need to be there or not. I thought this was the 21st century where working women have the chance to create a sensible work / life balance so long as they perform in their job. My line manager gave me a great performance rating during Covid. I have two children under 5 and no family nearby. Any thoughts on this?

Hope things managed to sort out. There is case law in employment tribunals to support some WFH for people with caring responsibilities and or disabilities. Flexible working requests can be helpful as will the changes Labour is about to bring in. Good luck to employers who thjnk they can continue to mandate this without repercussions. And no it is not just about what your contract says. There is a lot more to it than that. Best wishes with it all

DH001 · 19/09/2024 18:41

"I thought this was the 21st century where working women have the chance to create a sensible work / life balance so long as they perform in their job"
Really, what on earth makes to think that? 😂

parkrun500club · 19/09/2024 20:36

DH001 · 19/09/2024 18:41

"I thought this was the 21st century where working women have the chance to create a sensible work / life balance so long as they perform in their job"
Really, what on earth makes to think that? 😂

Post covid I thought so. But the control freaks are gradually asserting themselves again..