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Quick, Should I walk out of this contract? SORELY tempted to tell them to shove it...

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WideWebWitch · 28/05/2004 11:00

Eeek, talked about my wanker boss here . and it hasn't got any better, except he hasn't been here much. Now I have a meeting on Tuesday with him during which I'm fairly convinced he'll piss me off even more. I'm absolutely dreading it. This week I've been deluged by sharp, rude emails, some of which are asking me to update on stuff I haven't even been asked to do! And then getting short with me for not having done it! I've been replying to say er, you didn't ask me to do this. I promise I'm not crap, honestly I'm not - he's just awful, disorganised, a control freak. My predecessor said she felt dread at the idea of work on the days he was in the office. I feel physically sick at the idea of coming to work on Tuessday and I'm not a wimp, honest. Shall I go off sick for a few days, starting now, instead of telling them to stuff it? Any advice appreciated, am really getting myself in a state. No time to preview, sorry if this is garbled.

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sobernow · 01/06/2004 21:00

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musica · 01/06/2004 23:06

Well done you - sounds like you totally preserved your dignity etc. - shame it had to happen, but now you're free to look for something else. xxx

ScummyMummy · 01/06/2004 23:41

Totally awesome, WWW I wish we could send Tosser Mctoss and Bosstosser Mcbosstosser this thread! Good luck finding the next job, hon. Hold onto your confidence.

tigermoth · 02/06/2004 07:22

wickedlycalmwaterwitch, well done.

I too am surprised that the big boss didn't want to know more. But hey, that's tossers for you.
I take it you will never need to ask for references from this company!

Did these two fine gentlemen have families? Pity their wives and children.

Fio2 · 02/06/2004 07:28

Gawd WWW well done you hope you find something else soon though, I have my fingers crossed for you

Girly · 02/06/2004 08:21

You did so well to remain calm wwww, well done!!!! Nothing winds these type of men up more than a cool calm woman

I bet he gets off on bullying women, not this time though, limp dick springs to mind!

hatter · 02/06/2004 09:46

well done This is the kind of thing that people fantasize about doing and you've actually done it. Good for you. Does this mean that you now have a month on full-pay, with childcare in place? That's another thing that people fantasize about...

WideWebWitch · 02/06/2004 09:49

Well, yes to the full pay hatter but dp is a sahd so I don't think he'd appreciate it if I just put my feet up this month and let him deal with the children! I can fantasise though. And of course, I will need some time to look for another job

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eefs · 02/06/2004 09:54

WWW, you complain to Topboss about Tosser's behaviour and the very next working day Tosser lets you go. unfair dismissal? Topboss should be quite worried right now about possible litigation, esp as you have proved you are not one to take it lying down and that you have records of Tossers bullying. If Topboss is in touch with reality at all I think you should be hearing from him soon.
Did you send the email?
How do you feel about it now that you've had a good nights sleep?

willow2 · 02/06/2004 10:11

Yeay WWW! Way to go girlfriend and other movie type americanisms...

Like the unfair dismissal route. Email McTosser's boss, tell him that that, thanks to his incompetent handling of the situation (ffs, he told McTosser you had complained before speaking to you personally) you were placed in an intolerable situation, were forced into agreeing to leave and that the whole matter leaves a stain on your, previously, exemplary work record; tell him that, unless he contacts you today to discuss your severance package and reference, you will be seeking legal redress. Then find two blxxxy great bricks...

love and stuff xxx

WideWebWitch · 02/06/2004 10:11

Well, he should be worried I suppose eefs, but goodness knows if he is. My email to his boss said something like: I'm a professional; here are my credentials (mentioning my experience and my references, establishing that I'm credible I suppose); this has been unpleasant for me but hey, if Tosser McToss wants to pay me off rather than tackling the issue or trying to resolve it there's nothing I can do about it. 2 other senior people thought Tosser was a bully and left because of it and they've given me permission to quote them so here it is: this issue isn't going to go away unless you deal with it. Me? I'm fine: I'm employable and happy and I was doing a good job for your company but you've just paid me for a month during which I won't be working for you rather than dealing with the problem at hand (i.e. Tosser McToss) so that's fine with me! Call me if you want to discuss.

If I was Mr top Boss I'd see Tosser's behaviour in getting rid of me instantly as a good example of the type of man he is! I'd be very unimpressed with it and would want to know if he followed procedures, listened to views, involved HR, documented it etc etc. Which he didn't. Told my predecessor last night who was very impressed and says she wishes she'd been able to say the same things. She took a pay drop and a less than ideal job just to get out of there

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oliveoil · 02/06/2004 10:28

Deffo sounds like constructive dismissal to me, intolerable working conditions etc. You enjoy the sunshine and think of your revenge.

Good on you for sticking your ground, pair of twats the both of them.

eefs · 02/06/2004 10:34

WWW, sorry, also meant to add earlier that I was impressed by the way you handled it - I hope you got some satisfaction is seeing him write with fury while you calmly got your points across. It's still unfair that you had to give up a good job because of that idiot though.

eefs · 02/06/2004 10:36

write with fury?? that's a new one. I meant writhe/wriggle/squirm/explode with fury of course

Freckle · 02/06/2004 21:31

www, it just occurred to me that you might in fact be entitled to more money. Did your contract contain a term covering notice on dismissal? If it didn't, then you would be entitled to be paid for the rest of the contract, not just one month's notice.

Even though you've received one month's salary, it might be worth demanding the rest of the money. obviously if your contract gave each side the right to terminate the contract on one month's notice on either side, you can't take that much further.

I take it you haven't heard further from McTosser's boss??

WideWebWitch · 02/06/2004 21:35

Thanks freckle. Am I right in thinking you're a lawyer? Pretty sure my contract says 1 month notice on either side so I doubt I'm entitled to pay for the remainder of the contract but I WILL check! I haven't heard from Top Boss, no, but I have had 2 calls today: one from the agency asking if I was OK and the other from the HR woman asking the same. Hmm. This makes me suspicious that they are worried about a potential claim from me. I can't be arsed, quite frankly but I do wonder if questions are being asked about why HR have never actioned previous complaints made against him (I mentioned them in my email yesterday). I also made it clear to HR woman that he pushed me, I didn't strop off.

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Freckle · 02/06/2004 21:41

I was a lawyer in another life Long time ago now and my up-to-date knowledge is sorely lacking. However, basic principles don't change that much and I do have access to some current information.

Did the agency place your predecessors with this company? If so, they might see a pattern emerging here. Did you ask the HR person why they had ignored all previous indications that this man was a complete tw*t?

aloha · 02/06/2004 21:56

YES! go for pay until the end of the contract!! Go, go, go!! One month really isn't enough. He can't legally get rid like this, surely. And anyway, they will pay you to go away now. I got a very nice settlement from a job where I was bullied out of a job, saw a lovely lawyer and she saw me right- and very satisfying it was too. It would mean you and your family could have a lovely holiday.. go on, go on, go on

willow2 · 03/06/2004 12:01

Can't be arsed? That's not the WWW I know! Go for it; get stroppy and sit back and watch the cash register roll.

CountessDracula · 03/06/2004 12:27

Yes I agree go for it.

eefs · 03/06/2004 12:35

WWW - what is the situation with your references from this company?
I know you've said you can explain it away on your CV - but isn't this the first time you've worked since your DS was born (correct me if I'm wrong) therefore this contract is actually very relevent to your next employer I would have thought. If you are not going to persue this down legal channels, and I understand why you would not - can you use the potential for litigation to get a beautiful reference from them and perhaps a reference contact person who is obviously not Tosser himself but someone who will verbally confirm to any potential employers that you were great at your job?

those two calls you received today are very interesting... Had you told the agency you'd left or how did they find out? what did the company tell them I wonder?

Marina · 03/06/2004 12:45

I don't know - you spend a long weekend bumper-to-bumper up and down the A1 and you miss all this.
Hail to pph, what fantastic advice, and what good use you put it to WWW, I'm just sorry the top boss has utterly failed to confront the issues (but then he'd have to look in the mirror and see that he has let this guy get away with it before). I hope that as I write you are enjoying some sunshine en famille and seriously considering going for payment to end of contract. You really do deserve it.
I think there is strong evidence for a Mumsnet Management Consultancy here...top-notch business problem-solving at the click of a mouse. I can manage its corporate library if you like...

LIZS · 03/06/2004 12:45

Go on www ! The reason you are in this position in the first place is that previous employees have failed to stand up for themselves and this tosser has been able to continue to behave badly. You have proved the exception and may make the difference. A little extra pressure could help you financially and the company to see him for what he is. If they won't act now then they deserve to be taken to the cleaners.

prufrock · 03/06/2004 20:35

Well handled www. but I would tell them that having taken legal advice (they don't need to know it was all via Mumsnet) you do feel you have a right to be paid to end of contract. Whilst I can see why you can't be arsed to take them to tribunal, it probably won't come to that, and you mght get an ever better pay off.

motherinferior · 03/06/2004 20:41

And think of how much Tosserama will squirm and wriggle and do unmentionable things in his trousers oh yes, please go for it!

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