Rishi Sunak said…

I do think some strategic legal action might help.

And I do think teachers have been caught in the middle but the Cass review is VERY clear so any teacher using non-standard English, using preferred pronouns I don't think has the luxury now of 'I didn't know'.

Also, I think one important fact is that preferred pronouns change the entire rules of English - the rules we've all learnt growing up which have been accepted for ages. So teachers need to be really clear if they're using non-sex based (i.e. normal usage) pronouns that they are doing this. It's political, it's against standard usage and it's bloody confusing switching between the two (sex based - i.e. applicable to a class; gender based - individual).

If the entire English language is going to be changed so pronouns are gender based and individual (i.e. not based on an observable external characteristic like sex) then I think they'll eventually disappear completely because we already have individual names, it'd be the same thing just for third person usage and I do think just using names at that point will be easier (halving the amount of memory required for each individual).

They feel special to have some of those magic transubstantiating special children in their class.

You are describing confused, potentially neurodiverse and possibly mentally fragile children, yes?

And I don't think the courts are actually able to do that, anyway, they have to consider what happened, not other questions.

Encouraging physical self harm in teenagers is never kindness.

And I do think teachers have been caught in the middle but the Cass review is VERY clear so any teacher using non-standard English, using preferred pronouns I don't think has the luxury now of 'I didn't know'.

Do you know how many times I've heard the Cass review referred to in schools?

I think you are overestimating its reach. Schools are generally waiting for DfE guidance.

I'm talking about people defending Maya, not the courts. I think from reading, people would generally find it unacceptable if Maya had been persistently misgendering a colleague, but that's not what happened.

And the Equality Act would have persistently misgendering a colleague as discrimination so it wouldn't be legally acceptable either.

I don’t think it’s unusual for them to be on the left and they are more likely to adopt gender ideology but I do think it needs to be sorted out at government level as we move away from the gender lies

Labour won’t, it will get worse. But Cons are showing the slow change already.

There is no such thing as magic transubstantiating children.

No, but there are children who are confused about their gender identity and you are being pretty fucking offensive in referring to them like this.

I am not referring to any sort of real person.

Ah right, so in a discussion about trans identifying children in schools you've suddenly started referring to magic transubstantiating children who don't really exist and we are supposed to divorce your offensive comments from the previous discussion?

Don't be daft, it's clear what you're doing.

I expect that when you were referring to imaginary teachers as sadistic, demonising cunts, you really meant it.

It's an abstract description. But apart from anything else, how does it apply, say, to the 70 children all 'coming out' in one school in Brighton?

Although this ideology is appealing to fragile children, there's also a social contagion effecting children who aren't particularly fragile.

I'm sure it's very tricky negotiating the embedded ideology in a school, but that's no reason not to do it.

Social transition is not a neutral act, it has been recommended by Cass that it should only be done in conjunction with a medical professional, and social transitioning is the biggest indicator that someone will medically transition.

it absolutely has to be addressed in school. And as wrong pronouns are the most obvious manifestation, they should be included.

I'm hoping that the government will recommend that any teaching of gender ideology is removed from all schools. And that, yes, PSHE will include the fact that gender ideology is not based on any evidence, that it's a belief system and wrong sex pronouns should be discouraged.

Given the persecution of anyone, pupil or staff, who is not currently adhering to the wrong pronouns, just that would be a massive step forward.

It's an abstract description. But apart from anything else, how does it apply, say, to the 70 children all 'coming out' in one school in Brighton?

No, 'children who are confused about their gender identity' or 'children who have adopted a transgender identity' is an abstract description. 'Magical transubstantiating children' is deliberately, dismissively offensive. It's like the difference between describing someone's god as 'a religious deity' or a 'magic sky pixie'.

It's as if we are all different people with different views.

Magical transubstantiating children' is deliberately, dismissively offensive.

I can't vouch for Endless's intention, but gender ideology is bloody offensive. And if it doesn't involve thinking children have changed sex by something akin to transubstantiation, what does it involve?

Honestly, it is possible to have a coherent approach to this in schools, based on best practice guidelines.

The idea that somehow the difficulties of pronouns in schools mean anything the Tories - or presumably anyone else - does on this is going to be impossible is just deliberate obfuscation of the discussion.

The trouble is that 'kind' has been warped to mean 'slushy sentimentality', 'enabling' and 'unquestioningly indulging'.

That isn't what kind means at all. Sometimes being kind involves boundaries and the word 'no'.

And there are always the questions arising in this particular ideology: who is supposed to get all the kindness, are they being expected to reciprocate, and are there any groups being demanded to provide 'the kind' and not entitled to any themselves, or to be seen as equals, or with anyone caring how they feel or what happens to them?

It's like inclusion. It isn't a T or male only thing.

Which would mean less that people 'were kind' and stopped, and more that people realised that what they thought was being kind was in fact being gullible and unkind. And stopped.

I think it’s pretty fucking offensive that teachers are transing children against the express wishes of their parents, due to the belief system the teachers have bought into!

no teacher would change the name of child from a Muslim family because the kid said they wanted to convert to Christianity and take on a apostolic name.
So why have so many teachers decided it’s ok to change the name of children who declare a belief in gender identity?