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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is this acceptable in a school?

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noblegiraffe · 27/06/2010 14:48

A friend of mine is a teacher in an all boys school. He was showing a group of pupils some of the football and was fast-forwarding to get to the action. The camera lingered on some pretty girls in the crowd (you know the ones they normally pick!) and the pupils demanded that he go back so they could get a proper look. He obliged, but commented that if there had been a single girl in the classroom, he wouldn't have.

Obviously this was a pretty minor incident, but do you think it was fine (and if so, would it have also been fine if there had been girls present?), or is it encouraging the sexual objectification of women? Or anything else?

What are your thoughts?

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MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:17

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MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:18

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Thisisthatvilewoman · 28/06/2010 17:18

Claire, haven't you got some criminals and students to entertain?

Prolesworth · 28/06/2010 17:19

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ImSoNotTelling · 28/06/2010 17:20

Oh a fruit loop

Prolesworth · 28/06/2010 17:20

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noblegiraffe · 28/06/2010 17:21

Dunno who it is, but it's definitely not Imperator.

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HerBeatitude · 28/06/2010 17:22

The difference is that in the case of objectifying them, you reduce them to their bodies being the most important and/ or interesting thing about them. Admiration without objectification, is about understanding that however nice their body, it's only one part of them.

There, not too difficult, is it?

Hope this adds to your store of non-emotive thoughts...

Thisisthatvilewoman · 28/06/2010 17:23

I would bet my house that it's Claire Khaw, the lunacy alone is all I need. 'thought crime', 'women hating' are all themes close to her ----ticking clock heart.

MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:24

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HerBeatitude · 28/06/2010 17:26

Please see my post of 17.22.

There.

Now do you disappear in a puff of smoke?

Ghostlove · 28/06/2010 17:27

Wow, this is the first thread I've read in the Feminism subforum and I'm horrified by this MsGoddess person. Are there always trolls like this or is this a rare occurrence?

MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:28

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HerBeatitude · 28/06/2010 17:35

oh you just don't get it do you.

I'm not arguing that the way men adn women are attracted to each other is different - you are.

I'm arguing that the social context in which they find each other attractive is different.

It really isn't difficult.

Unless you want to make it difficult.

sethstarkaddersmum · 28/06/2010 17:36

oh you do get the antifeminists turning up from time to time to try and derail. It's only a minority of threads though.

HerBeatitude · 28/06/2010 17:37

Anyway, you are a troll so i'm going to stop feeding you now.

HerBeatitude · 28/06/2010 17:37

Sorry not you Seth

Thisisthatvilewoman · 28/06/2010 17:39

"I doubt the vast majority of men see womens bodies as the most important part of them. I don't even think thats what porn is about."

Jesus Christ woman you need help. I'm thinking you have never been in a relationship as you are as ugly on the outside as on the inside....so no man or woman would ever want you.

MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:44

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MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:48

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Thisisthatvilewoman · 28/06/2010 17:50

Calling you a troll because you are one, attacking you personally because you are a disgusting jobless cunt who attacks people in need, the vulnerable. Having you on this forum is an insult to the decent people that post here.

Get a job you sad internet freak.

foureleven · 28/06/2010 17:54

I reckon someones already said it but just to add my twopennies; for those who have said it would be a different story and no one would mind if it had a been a female teachers oggling a male.. In my opinion that would also be wrong but the reason it is slightly more acceptable is because men have not suffered 100s of years of oppression (objectification, lower pay; I wont list it all) So it would be less damaging IMO if this happened the other way around.

Teachers should be actively challenging sexist views about women not encouraging them.

My daughters school has a 4 page long gender equality policy. I wonder if same sex schools have these. If not, I beleive they should.

MsGoddess · 28/06/2010 17:58

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Thisisthatvilewoman · 28/06/2010 18:05

Seriously this woman is an internet idiot without a real life, conjuring fuckwitted ideas is all she does.

Claire Khaw doesn't even have a degree....

foureleven · 28/06/2010 18:05

Are you stalking me msgoddess?

Its not exactly double standards. I did say that IMO it is also wrong the other way around. I was just offering up a counter arguement to those who say 'oh its fine for the male teacher to ogle women with the boys because if it were the other way around no one would care' Im explaining why people care more about this kind of objectification about women than of men, because the issue of disrimination against women need more active challenging at the point society is currently at..

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