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Sandie Peggie has lost her case against the nursing union.

536 replies

RhannionKPSS · Yesterday 15:33

Terrible news

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hatosh · Yesterday 17:24

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:21

What was defamatory in what I wrote? Back up your claims.

The most clear-cut bit of defamation was your claim that Sandie Peggie is homophobic.

MsHighwater · Yesterday 17:29

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:22

How is Sandie currently funding her lifestyle? She's not working...

What business is that of yours?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:30

hatosh · Yesterday 17:24

The most clear-cut bit of defamation was your claim that Sandie Peggie is homophobic.

I would suggest that using homophobic language is homophobic. Perhaps you feel differently.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:31

MsHighwater · Yesterday 17:29

What business is that of yours?

I was asked about the gravy train Sandie is currently riding...

MsHighwater · Yesterday 17:31

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 16:07

Are you under the impression that people with gay children can't be homophobic? Sandie disproves that helpfully. Or perhaps it's just gay men (or 'its' as she refers to them) that she's homophobic against.

Single sex spaces should be a right for all - even bigots like Sandie. Putting someone who makes sickening racist jokes and finds them amusing as the face of Gender Critical campaigning was an awful decision. But no amount of bigotry will see her called out by the masses on here because she's vocally transphobic and not just GC.

She wasn’t “the face of gender critical campaigning”. She is a claimant with a case that turns on an area of law that needs clarification (after years of motivated misrepresentation).

spannasaurus · Yesterday 17:31

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:30

I would suggest that using homophobic language is homophobic. Perhaps you feel differently.

What homophobic language did she use? A quote would be good

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:34

spannasaurus · Yesterday 17:31

What homophobic language did she use? A quote would be good

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"Devastated" that her daughter was gay. That's homophobic.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:35

MsHighwater · Yesterday 17:31

She wasn’t “the face of gender critical campaigning”. She is a claimant with a case that turns on an area of law that needs clarification (after years of motivated misrepresentation).

She was made the face of it as you well know. It's why despite her many vile views, she will be supported on here.

spannasaurus · Yesterday 17:35

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:34

"Devastated" that her daughter was gay. That's homophobic.

Is that it?

Soontobe60 · Yesterday 17:40

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:34

"Devastated" that her daughter was gay. That's homophobic.

Please provide the quote and context where this was allegedly said.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:41

spannasaurus · Yesterday 17:35

Is that it?

There doesn't need to be any more. It proves that she is homophobic. I certainly wasn't devastated when my son came out because I'm not homophobic. My parents weren't devastated when my brother came out because they're not homophobic. It's amazing how so many homophobes are also racist and transphobic, isn't it?

hatosh · Yesterday 17:42

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:34

"Devastated" that her daughter was gay. That's homophobic.

This is pathetic. And also it's not an actual quote from Sandie Peggie, as you presumably well know. What she actually said to Lindsey Nicoll was: "How did you cope with two family members being gay?"

This was in the context of seeking support on how to navigate her daughter coming out to her.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:42

Soontobe60 · Yesterday 17:40

Please provide the quote and context where this was allegedly said.

Her own friend exposed her during the tribunal. And then Sandie spoke about it to The Telegraph - that bastion of anti-homophobic press coverage!

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 17:43

It will be interesting to see what happens to membership numbers of the RCN over the coming year or two.

Many nurses will have sat tight thinking that the RCN would help them out in their hour of need.

Now with Sandie Peggie, Jennifer Melle, Bethany Hutchinson and the other Darlington nurses
it is in black and white that the Union will take their subs but not provide services.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:44

hatosh · Yesterday 17:42

This is pathetic. And also it's not an actual quote from Sandie Peggie, as you presumably well know. What she actually said to Lindsey Nicoll was: "How did you cope with two family members being gay?"

This was in the context of seeking support on how to navigate her daughter coming out to her.

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"She was devastated about a family member being gay and asked me 'how I coped with two family members being gay'."

That's the exact quote. I wonder why you would remove the word devastated from it. Is it because you know Sandie's homophobic (and racist, and transphobic) but you need her not to be lest you have to confront your own potential bigotry?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:45

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 17:43

It will be interesting to see what happens to membership numbers of the RCN over the coming year or two.

Many nurses will have sat tight thinking that the RCN would help them out in their hour of need.

Now with Sandie Peggie, Jennifer Melle, Bethany Hutchinson and the other Darlington nurses
it is in black and white that the Union will take their subs but not provide services.

I think it's become quite clear that the vast majority of nurses don't support any of these individuals. Certainly after their actions.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 17:45

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 17:43

It will be interesting to see what happens to membership numbers of the RCN over the coming year or two.

Many nurses will have sat tight thinking that the RCN would help them out in their hour of need.

Now with Sandie Peggie, Jennifer Melle, Bethany Hutchinson and the other Darlington nurses
it is in black and white that the Union will take their subs but not provide services.

And there is now an alternative.

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 17:47

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:45

I think it's become quite clear that the vast majority of nurses don't support any of these individuals. Certainly after their actions.

Silence is not acceptance.

There is absolutely NO evidence either way at present

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:49

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 17:47

Silence is not acceptance.

There is absolutely NO evidence either way at present

How many have flocked to the Darlington nurses' union?

Veilsofmorning · Yesterday 17:49

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:45

I think it's become quite clear that the vast majority of nurses don't support any of these individuals. Certainly after their actions.

Now back up your claim that the vast majority of nurses don’t support any of these individuals. Please show us the data.

hatosh · Yesterday 17:52

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:44

"She was devastated about a family member being gay and asked me 'how I coped with two family members being gay'."

That's the exact quote. I wonder why you would remove the word devastated from it. Is it because you know Sandie's homophobic (and racist, and transphobic) but you need her not to be lest you have to confront your own potential bigotry?

I removed the word "devastated" because it was spoken by Lindsey Nicoll, not by Sandie Peggie.

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 17:52

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 15:52

Of course it is. She's a vile bigot and has been shown as such. She has done nothing but harm sensible gender criticals in this country by becoming the face of a movement when she's been so openly racist and homophobic.

How is she a "vile bigot" for making a couple of "forbidden" comments in what she thought was a private WhatsApp group, of the type that many ordinary people make every day without any particular maliciousness being intended?

In what way is she homophobic?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Yesterday 17:53

Of course she did. She targeted a member of staff who belonged to a minority, was horribly bullying towards her and made her life hell.

SP's a proven racist and widely disliked by her colleagues, so who would ever want her treating patients? Totally unprofessional behaviour.

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 17:54

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:34

"Devastated" that her daughter was gay. That's homophobic.

Where did she say that?

Her lesbian daughter and her girlfriend fully support her. Because the real homophobia is trans ideology.

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