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Australian documentary: Who decides?

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CassOle · 30/10/2026 19:37

https://whodecidesfilm.com/

"WHO DECIDES? is a feature documentary exploring the growing national conversation in Australia surrounding the participation of transgender women in female-only spaces, alongside broader questions relating to education, healthcare and public policy.

As these issues increasingly move from sporting fields and schools into courtrooms, government inquiries and parliamentary debate, the film looks beyond the headlines to examine how competing rights, public policy and lived experience intersect. Through interviews with people holding a range of perspectives, alongside those directly affected, experts, advocates, journalists, legal professionals and policymakers, WHO DECIDES? seeks to foster a thoughtful exploration of one of Australia's most contested public conversations."

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teawamutu · Yesterday 08:52

A brand new MNer! Let's have a game to celebrate.

Australian documentary: Who decides?
Fairgo · Yesterday 08:57

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 08:26

@Fairgo - I didn't say anger, I said fear, and I didn't pay attention to your AI slop post.

There are plenty of women in your country raising the matters you're so concern with, but they're being hamper by the fact that there's no such category as women in Aus any more, thanks to the actions of Gillard when she was at the very TOP.

This thread isn't about VAWAG, your whataboutery is just an attempt to deflect from the topic at hand because you have no arguments to back up the genderwang you're so devoted too.

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"There are plenty of women in your country raising the matters you're so concern with, but they're being hamper by the fact that there's no such category as women in Aus any more, thanks to the actions of Gillard when she was at the very TOP."

Perhaps if you bothered to read my 'AI slop' or anything regarding Australian laws you would know there are no legitimate matters to raise since exemptions ALREADY EXIST for natal women. That female only networking apps don't qualify for an exemption understandably for anyone with a working brain which was Giggle's idiotic claim.

And no, shouting 'genderwang' is not a substantive argument hence the gender critical movement not gaining any ground in Australia. But do keep up the 'gender wanging' defence its working a treat!

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:01

LouisTheYardTeacher · Yesterday 08:39

@Fairgo What we've had in the UK is a gradual process of the arguments for and against gender ideology being aired and publicly debated, and inevitably over time the GC side has gained support and the gender ideology side has lost it. I expect the same process will happen in Aus over the next few years.

Don't kid yourself. A favourable bogus court ruling is no broad grass roots campaign.

SchoolOfCool · Yesterday 09:02

StealthTroublemaker · Yesterday 06:48

It does look very interesting. I do think it’s odd how women saying no to mixed sex spaces is considered “anti-trans”. Surely that would suggest there is a clash of demands at the very least.

It is a view that basically admits that boundary violation is inherent to a trans identity. Which it isn't, but fuck knows the mainstream iteration of trans ideology likes to push that it is.

naffogato · Yesterday 09:03

Fairgo · Yesterday 07:19

Because as a GENUINE FEMINIST I'm not stupid enough to fall for a manufactured astro turfed moral panic designed to enable the ascension of right wing governments who give buggar all about women's rights.

As for women's rights what rights? There are no rights at risk given special exemptions exist for natal women under the anti discrimination act.

And what's absolutely galling is how this manufactured top down grievance that involves 0.5% of trans women has centred itself as the women's right's calamity of our time that effectively silences via its media saturation REAL problems like the epidemic level of domestic & sexual violence women face in this country.

So don't think for one second the women of Australia are going to give this colonialist victorian clap trap a second thought because we live in the real world where trans people are the least of our problems hence ZERO interest in this beat up at the grass roots level regardless of the political funding.

No. You are not a feminist if you cede what belongs to women to men masquerading as us. Putting it in caps doesn’t make it true.

women had to fight long and hard for our rights. Men still get 95% of the funding and sponsorship for sports. Why should women give what little we have gained to mediocre cheating men?

transwomen are part of the epidemic of male sexual violence against women. It’s the same issue. Incarceration rates in prisons show that 70% of transwomen in prison are there for sexual offences. A rate that is many times higher than their fellow men. Allowing transwomen into female spaces makes the sexual assault epidemic worse for women.

JellySaurus · Yesterday 09:04

teawamutu · Yesterday 08:52

A brand new MNer! Let's have a game to celebrate.

You’ve omitted Whataboutery, Women haven’t lost any rights, Outdated, Never Happens, Nobody Cares, and Introduce Irrelevancies. Most of which our new TRA has already ticked.

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:05

JellySaurus · Yesterday 08:44

Since when does ‘egalitarian’ mean not being allowed to ask questions or consider other perspectives?

Egalitarian =/= No Debate

Sal Grover has had her bogus grifting claims on blast on all the major media outlets in Australia for years now so that's hardly 'no debate'.

'No debate' is more in the realm of British billionaires who weaponise defamation law via law far a la Trump to censor legitimate criticism.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:07

Fairgo · Yesterday 07:53

Why don't you wait until you see the film before you pass judgement.

The clips said it all. And mark my words, no major TV stations will touch it when they see its just another Rupert project.

The right know the they have zero credibility when it comes to affordability in this country that's why they have to rely on scapegoating immigrants, women, trans & indigenous people to get any motion with what remains of their only hope: ignorant bigots.

“another Rupert project”

Great, you know who made it, please link us up with who has produced it?

JellySaurus · Yesterday 09:07

SchoolOfCool · Yesterday 09:02

It is a view that basically admits that boundary violation is inherent to a trans identity. Which it isn't, but fuck knows the mainstream iteration of trans ideology likes to push that it is.

AGP? All those photos men take of themselves in women’s toilets? Male doctors on record saying they would perform intimate examinations in female patients who had requested a female doctor? Male teachers wearing massive fake breasts at work?

naffogato · Yesterday 09:07

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:01

Don't kid yourself. A favourable bogus court ruling is no broad grass roots campaign.

For women Scotland are the grass roots organisation that brought the Scottish government to court to clarify the equality act. The fightback against gender ideology has been individual women coming together to fight.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:08

Are all capitals the new italics now?

naffogato · Yesterday 09:10

LouisTheYardTeacher · Yesterday 08:39

@Fairgo What we've had in the UK is a gradual process of the arguments for and against gender ideology being aired and publicly debated, and inevitably over time the GC side has gained support and the gender ideology side has lost it. I expect the same process will happen in Aus over the next few years.

Exactly. The gender ideology side know their nonsense does not stand up to any questioning which is why they try so hard to stop women speaking

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:12

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:05

Sal Grover has had her bogus grifting claims on blast on all the major media outlets in Australia for years now so that's hardly 'no debate'.

'No debate' is more in the realm of British billionaires who weaponise defamation law via law far a la Trump to censor legitimate criticism.

Howse that argument about Sal Grover being a grifter working for you? Convincing many people?

The great thing about focusing on her is that people go and see for themselves what is happening. The Streisand effect is a bit of an own goal in that respect.

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:14

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:07

“another Rupert project”

Great, you know who made it, please link us up with who has produced it?

I don't have to the usual sky Rupert suspects on it speaks for it self.

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:15

naffogato · Yesterday 09:07

For women Scotland are the grass roots organisation that brought the Scottish government to court to clarify the equality act. The fightback against gender ideology has been individual women coming together to fight.

A fringe group who got a favourable leg up by the courts is hardly a broad grass roots movement.

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:22

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:12

Howse that argument about Sal Grover being a grifter working for you? Convincing many people?

The great thing about focusing on her is that people go and see for themselves what is happening. The Streisand effect is a bit of an own goal in that respect.

Howse it working in Australia? Its not & even grifter Grover will tell you that with her incessant crying that no one is listening. To be fair it must be frustrating to think your only meal ticket isn't being cashed in by the Australian public. Oh well maybe she can go back to Hollywood chasing fame & fortune there again with another bogus 'business model'.

PriOn1 · Yesterday 09:25

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 08:09

Then why the fear, why the aggression, apart from the fact that gender idiots are permanently set on the 'bullying and shout down' setting, why are you so afraid of one little film, paid for by the proverbial 'far-right', who no one pays annnny attention to.

And why come on here to argue with (mostly) UK women if the whole thing is a non-event and not worth thinking about. Something doesn’t add up…

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:27

Just in case anyone has missed this UK doco or wants to rewatch it in prep for next week‘s launch here is the link

https://adulthumanfemale.info/wp/

Of course, there are threads on MN about the protests that blocked the showing of the doco in Edinburgh at the Uni. How male people intimidated and blocked female people from watching it together.

https://archive.is/guKEW

All because feminists rejected that male people should be included in female single sex provisions and made a documentary about it.

No doubt, the Australian doco would be similarly protested if the location for the launch gets leaked.

ADH – My WordPress Blog

https://adulthumanfemale.info/wp/

AudHvamm · Yesterday 09:27

Fairgo · Yesterday 07:19

Because as a GENUINE FEMINIST I'm not stupid enough to fall for a manufactured astro turfed moral panic designed to enable the ascension of right wing governments who give buggar all about women's rights.

As for women's rights what rights? There are no rights at risk given special exemptions exist for natal women under the anti discrimination act.

And what's absolutely galling is how this manufactured top down grievance that involves 0.5% of trans women has centred itself as the women's right's calamity of our time that effectively silences via its media saturation REAL problems like the epidemic level of domestic & sexual violence women face in this country.

So don't think for one second the women of Australia are going to give this colonialist victorian clap trap a second thought because we live in the real world where trans people are the least of our problems hence ZERO interest in this beat up at the grass roots level regardless of the political funding.

How do I get my GENUINE FEMINIST accreditation? Do I have to present evidence of years of service? Is there a written exam?

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 09:29

GENUINE FEMINIST

Wow. You just really can’t debate against such entrenched delusion and blindness.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:30

AudHvamm · Yesterday 09:27

How do I get my GENUINE FEMINIST accreditation? Do I have to present evidence of years of service? Is there a written exam?

I think you need it printed on a shirt in huge letters.

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 09:30

There’s a bit of confusion at the moment about new builds because it appears Canberra has stated 50% of toilets should be unisex. That will be a huge social experiment because self contained, private toilets aren’t as safe or healthy as standard designs of separate sex toilet washrooms.

I scanned over the Australian documents and there’s no realisation on the impact of how design affects the cost, cleanliness, number of pathogens, drug use and overdoses, vandalism, survival rate if someone collapses or sexual or other assault rate, closure rate due to misuse.

NowSober · Yesterday 09:30

Fairgo · Yesterday 08:57

"There are plenty of women in your country raising the matters you're so concern with, but they're being hamper by the fact that there's no such category as women in Aus any more, thanks to the actions of Gillard when she was at the very TOP."

Perhaps if you bothered to read my 'AI slop' or anything regarding Australian laws you would know there are no legitimate matters to raise since exemptions ALREADY EXIST for natal women. That female only networking apps don't qualify for an exemption understandably for anyone with a working brain which was Giggle's idiotic claim.

And no, shouting 'genderwang' is not a substantive argument hence the gender critical movement not gaining any ground in Australia. But do keep up the 'gender wanging' defence its working a treat!

Perhaps if you bothered to read my 'AI slop' or anything regarding Australian laws you would know there are no legitimate matters to raise since exemptions ALREADY EXIST for natal women. That female only networking apps don't qualify for an exemption understandably for anyone with a working brain which was Giggle's idiotic claim.

If exemptions ALREADY EXIST for natal women why don't they exist for lesbian networking apps?

Helleofabore · Yesterday 09:32

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:14

I don't have to the usual sky Rupert suspects on it speaks for it self.

I see.

So you have no information and you are just slinging shit at the wall to see what sticks. You are just making assumptions based on your own prejudiced biases.

And howse that working? Because so far if you read back your posts are incoherent and I am wondering if you are ok.

Fairgo · Yesterday 09:35

PriOn1 · Yesterday 09:25

And why come on here to argue with (mostly) UK women if the whole thing is a non-event and not worth thinking about. Something doesn’t add up…

Why correct misinformation/disinformation that harms people? Seriously?

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