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Vapid, bourgeois feminism - A virtue-signalling exercise dressed up as a working-class feminist rally had little to say about the men who harm women

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IwantToRetire · 19/10/2026 19:23

... another rally ... was organised by women’s organisations that had united to protest rising rates of sexual violence. Before you get too heartened, I regret to inform you that this quite promising-sounding “feminist” rally was yet another masterclass in the virtue-signalling cognitive dissonance that has come to define mainstream progressivism. Speakers paid lip service to the grave issue of male violence against women (reports of rape and attempted rape have increased by almost a third in the last four years in Scotland), but it was a supporting theme to the rally’s real agenda: denouncing the so-called far right and its alleged “weaponisation” of the issue against migrants.

The groups involved included Sisters Uncut, the Scottish Trades Union Congress, Women Against the Far Right and NASUWT Scotland (the teachers’ union). Of course, all these organisations are resolutely trans-inclusive, i.e. they can’t define what a woman is. Always a great start for an alleged women’s rights protest. Indeed, Scottish Green MSP Iris Duane, a trans-identified male, was one of the speakers to take the mic. It’s quite difficult to pinpoint lowlights in a speech with no highlights, but a particularly telling moment came when he said: “[Extremists are] telling us to blame migrants, the refugees, the trans people – anyone who looks different – and blame anything but the structures that have permitted this.”*

Ah yes, structures. Structures are to blame for killing and raping us. If I found myself walking alone in Gorgie late at night, I’d be looking over my shoulder to check whether structures were following me. I’d cross the street to avoid walking past a group of structures. The political left has a strange relationship with describing men. Men they call “cis” and, by extension, traditional masculinity are often mocked and demonised as the cause of all society’s problems. Yet when it comes to the uncomfortable nitty-gritty of identifying and actually solving problems, particularly those relating to MVAGW, under no circumstances can groups of males be spoken about in specific terms.

Article continues at https://www.terftimes.com/p/vapid-bourgeois-feminism/

Cropped still from video of Glasgow protest

Vapid, bourgeois feminism | TERF Times

A virtue-signalling exercise dressed up as a working-class feminist rally had little to say about the men who harm women

https://www.terftimes.com/p/vapid-bourgeois-feminism/

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JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 19:46

You definitely can be attacked by a structure. I was putting my bike away one evening and the garage door swung open and hit me full in the face. Somehow I don't think that is what they mean.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 19/10/2026 20:14

Ah yes, I'm sure they mean aggressive capitalism run by men allowing MVAW.
Yes, the very same system that promotes porn and prostitution, plastic surgery, and the big one, commercial surrogacy.
Always interesting that men and capitalism gets a bye in these areas.

Imdunfer · 19/10/2026 21:47

JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 19:46

You definitely can be attacked by a structure. I was putting my bike away one evening and the garage door swung open and hit me full in the face. Somehow I don't think that is what they mean.

I'm sorry. It feels so wrong, but that made me laugh out loud.

I hope your face is OK.

JanesLittleGirl · 19/10/2026 21:57

Imdunfer · 19/10/2026 21:47

I'm sorry. It feels so wrong, but that made me laugh out loud.

I hope your face is OK.

Two black eyes and a swollen nose. It was many years ago. Fully recovered and I really can't blame the structure that did it.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/10/2026 23:59

They're entirely correct. The far right have actively attacked women, verbally and physically (a breathtaking number of its leading figures charged with DV, CSA, rape and sexual assault) but claim to be saving us from migrants and trans people.

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women. All the while attacking every single thing about trans people.

Getting addicted to hating on a minority, eagerly scanning the news for every tiny mention of someone trans so the feeding frenzy can continue, is not feminism.

Msking nasty personal comments about trans people's bodies isn't feminism either.

The money spent on anti-trans activism versus projects which would actually benefit women just sickens me.

But worst of all is this ridiculous pretence that we have 'safe spaces' which men are simply too honourable to walk into. The column inches and hundreds of thousands wasted on this utter fiction while teenage rape victims have no services and no justice, no safety and no hope oh my god.

When are terf women going to notice that all they've accomplished is a drastic uptick in anti-trans violence (especially in schools) while providing an actual safe space for incredibly creepy men to discuss children's genitals?

CoalTit · 20/10/2026 00:09

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women.
No, we don't.

tobee · 20/10/2026 01:36

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/10/2026 23:59

They're entirely correct. The far right have actively attacked women, verbally and physically (a breathtaking number of its leading figures charged with DV, CSA, rape and sexual assault) but claim to be saving us from migrants and trans people.

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women. All the while attacking every single thing about trans people.

Getting addicted to hating on a minority, eagerly scanning the news for every tiny mention of someone trans so the feeding frenzy can continue, is not feminism.

Msking nasty personal comments about trans people's bodies isn't feminism either.

The money spent on anti-trans activism versus projects which would actually benefit women just sickens me.

But worst of all is this ridiculous pretence that we have 'safe spaces' which men are simply too honourable to walk into. The column inches and hundreds of thousands wasted on this utter fiction while teenage rape victims have no services and no justice, no safety and no hope oh my god.

When are terf women going to notice that all they've accomplished is a drastic uptick in anti-trans violence (especially in schools) while providing an actual safe space for incredibly creepy men to discuss children's genitals?

I mean that’s just so much bullshit isn’t it?

MoistVonL · 20/10/2026 01:44

tobee · 20/10/2026 01:36

I mean that’s just so much bullshit isn’t it?

I think material reality and the truth are strangers to that poster. They spout some absolute bobbins.

IwantToRetire · 20/10/2026 02:10

MoistVonL · 20/10/2026 01:44

I think material reality and the truth are strangers to that poster. They spout some absolute bobbins.

The point is not to respond. The intent is to hijack and disrespect the purpose of FWR.

Just dont encourage them ie give them the satisfaction of thinking you actually care about that they say.

Its a wind up.

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IwantToRetire · 20/10/2026 02:23

I suspect my previous post will not be there in the morning.

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Manyanamanyana · 20/10/2026 03:31

Ah yes, structures. Structures are to blame for killing and raping us. If I found myself walking alone in Gorgie late at night, I’d be looking over my shoulder to check whether structures were following me. I’d cross the street to avoid walking past a group of structures.

Gold standard writing 💯❤

Tears0fTheMushroom · 20/10/2026 04:43

CoalTit · 20/10/2026 00:09

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women.
No, we don't.

Don't waste your time. Even first timers on the board won't be taken in by TPAs nonsense posts. They never make even the slightest sense.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 05:38

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/10/2026 23:59

They're entirely correct. The far right have actively attacked women, verbally and physically (a breathtaking number of its leading figures charged with DV, CSA, rape and sexual assault) but claim to be saving us from migrants and trans people.

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women. All the while attacking every single thing about trans people.

Getting addicted to hating on a minority, eagerly scanning the news for every tiny mention of someone trans so the feeding frenzy can continue, is not feminism.

Msking nasty personal comments about trans people's bodies isn't feminism either.

The money spent on anti-trans activism versus projects which would actually benefit women just sickens me.

But worst of all is this ridiculous pretence that we have 'safe spaces' which men are simply too honourable to walk into. The column inches and hundreds of thousands wasted on this utter fiction while teenage rape victims have no services and no justice, no safety and no hope oh my god.

When are terf women going to notice that all they've accomplished is a drastic uptick in anti-trans violence (especially in schools) while providing an actual safe space for incredibly creepy men to discuss children's genitals?

So, just reversing your argument, what has the trans lobby done for women? How have those campaigning for trans rights made women and girls safer?

We see a lot of noise about how “TERFS” have made women less safe, so surely you can explain how allowing males into female spaces and recognising TIM as women would benefit women.

please do so without reference to trans rights though. I would like you to explain how, if women had embraced trans rights, they would now be safer and what material benefit they wiuld have gained.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 08:21

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/10/2026 23:59

They're entirely correct. The far right have actively attacked women, verbally and physically (a breathtaking number of its leading figures charged with DV, CSA, rape and sexual assault) but claim to be saving us from migrants and trans people.

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women. All the while attacking every single thing about trans people.

Getting addicted to hating on a minority, eagerly scanning the news for every tiny mention of someone trans so the feeding frenzy can continue, is not feminism.

Msking nasty personal comments about trans people's bodies isn't feminism either.

The money spent on anti-trans activism versus projects which would actually benefit women just sickens me.

But worst of all is this ridiculous pretence that we have 'safe spaces' which men are simply too honourable to walk into. The column inches and hundreds of thousands wasted on this utter fiction while teenage rape victims have no services and no justice, no safety and no hope oh my god.

When are terf women going to notice that all they've accomplished is a drastic uptick in anti-trans violence (especially in schools) while providing an actual safe space for incredibly creepy men to discuss children's genitals?

Your hysterical narrative is really telling.
A decade ago, you and your clan wouldn't even engage. Women would be cancelled from when daring to speak up.
Even just 5 years ago, cancel culture was still rife in the aftermath of the effects of COVID locking us all down and the world's issues seemingly being only fought online.
What a difference a decade makes, now you're forced to engage.
But what a disappointment, after all that time, you still have no arguments, nothing sane to say.
Just a stream of consciousness of kids know their gender ID at 5, liberalise the use of breast binders, and now, GCs are pro-far right men.
All that time when cancel culture ruled the land, and <this> is all you have to say?

Dragonasaurus · 20/10/2026 09:23

It’s so disappointing. Such a small proportion of resources (eg of the unions) is used to support women - and then the initiatives and actions which are focussed on women, actually aren’t 🙄

MoaningKeating · 20/10/2026 11:41

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/10/2026 23:59

They're entirely correct. The far right have actively attacked women, verbally and physically (a breathtaking number of its leading figures charged with DV, CSA, rape and sexual assault) but claim to be saving us from migrants and trans people.

Similarly, terfs have a very long record of defending men credibly accused of sexual assault, and who make nasty sexual remarks about women. All the while attacking every single thing about trans people.

Getting addicted to hating on a minority, eagerly scanning the news for every tiny mention of someone trans so the feeding frenzy can continue, is not feminism.

Msking nasty personal comments about trans people's bodies isn't feminism either.

The money spent on anti-trans activism versus projects which would actually benefit women just sickens me.

But worst of all is this ridiculous pretence that we have 'safe spaces' which men are simply too honourable to walk into. The column inches and hundreds of thousands wasted on this utter fiction while teenage rape victims have no services and no justice, no safety and no hope oh my god.

When are terf women going to notice that all they've accomplished is a drastic uptick in anti-trans violence (especially in schools) while providing an actual safe space for incredibly creepy men to discuss children's genitals?

This has got to be a parody TRA account?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 12:33

MoaningKeating · 20/10/2026 11:41

This has got to be a parody TRA account?

It's TRA bingo
Far Right
Bigots
Supporting violent men
Promoting bullying
I mean the list goes on, and on, and on
As long as that LGBTQIAETCETCETCYADAYADAYADA acronym

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 12:40

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 12:33

It's TRA bingo
Far Right
Bigots
Supporting violent men
Promoting bullying
I mean the list goes on, and on, and on
As long as that LGBTQIAETCETCETCYADAYADAYADA acronym

And yet they can never answer any questions about the benefits to women of GI….. almost like there aren’t any 🤷‍♀️

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 12:49

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 12:40

And yet they can never answer any questions about the benefits to women of GI….. almost like there aren’t any 🤷‍♀️

Do you mean women 1.0 or women 2.0?
Because TransParentlyNonsense believes the women 2.0 that are excluded from women 1.0 by TERFs, once they're included with women 1.0, makes <all> women (3.0?) safer.

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 12:59

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 12:49

Do you mean women 1.0 or women 2.0?
Because TransParentlyNonsense believes the women 2.0 that are excluded from women 1.0 by TERFs, once they're included with women 1.0, makes <all> women (3.0?) safer.

I mean women in the sense of adult human female. The only definition of woman I recognise. @TransParentlyAnnoyed any joy with this yet?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 13:43

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 12:59

I mean women in the sense of adult human female. The only definition of woman I recognise. @TransParentlyAnnoyed any joy with this yet?

Just being devil's advocate since you asked about the benefit to women from GI.
Their ideological post modern social construct view of gender would phrase the benefit to all women this way.
Biological females + social construct women = greater safety for the aggregate women category in society.
It's batshhit insane, indeed we see the end result of Michel Foucault's "language as violence" ethos on the streets of France right now.
This mob mentality dressed up in high falutin' grand philosophical terms wants destroy biological reality in relation to women in the same way that ransacking Paris is an act of liberation.

LordEmsworthsGirlfriend · 20/10/2026 13:43

MoaningKeating · 20/10/2026 11:41

This has got to be a parody TRA account?

Either way its one of the most abusive, dishonest, misogynist speeches I've read in a long time.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/10/2026 13:48

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 12:33

It's TRA bingo
Far Right
Bigots
Supporting violent men
Promoting bullying
I mean the list goes on, and on, and on
As long as that LGBTQIAETCETCETCYADAYADAYADA acronym

Children's genitals!

...said no one else on the thread...

StealthTroublemaker · 20/10/2026 13:49

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/10/2026 13:43

Just being devil's advocate since you asked about the benefit to women from GI.
Their ideological post modern social construct view of gender would phrase the benefit to all women this way.
Biological females + social construct women = greater safety for the aggregate women category in society.
It's batshhit insane, indeed we see the end result of Michel Foucault's "language as violence" ethos on the streets of France right now.
This mob mentality dressed up in high falutin' grand philosophical terms wants destroy biological reality in relation to women in the same way that ransacking Paris is an act of liberation.

Yeah. I just wanted to see if they could actually find a benefit but no, #sadtimes, I must sit alone and with no answer.

DebbieSavage · 20/10/2026 13:55

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