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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

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Backwardsbinn · 13/08/2026 20:33

Where do people get the idea that JK Rowling is transphobic from? Where? I’m having this argument with an acquaintance who tells me she’s the most transphobic person on earth but cannot point to one single thing that she’s done or said that’s transphobic. Is this the widest held totally bullshit view ever?

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Helleofabore · 15/08/2026 14:48

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

Racist ? Why? Please explain in detail and not just a vague reason why it is racist to say that Khelif is a male athlete.

Do you support male athletes punching female athletes who have only consented to boxing bouts with female athletes ? Do you support male athletes punching female athletes?

yes or no?

Backwardsbinn · 15/08/2026 14:48

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

Come now, you’re embarrassing yourself! There are two sexes - biological fact - and Kalif is a bloke. He belongs in the male section. Drs had an excuse for misgendering him at birth, but it would have been BLINDINGLY obvious to him and any other medical professional that he’s a bloke come puberty. It’s not even ‘complex’. A cheek swab would have proven this, and Kalif knew it. Did he sue JKR for calling him a bloke? He did not. For the simple fact that he knew full well what he is, as did everyone else in the entire world - except perhaps you. You’re either being deliberately obtuse or are MINDBLOWINGLY gullible.

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BackToLurk · 15/08/2026 14:49

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

Hirschold was Jewish. Denying or diminishing the targeting of Jews by the Nazis is antisemitic. It is straight from the playbook of those fascists (the real ones) who seek to push the narrative that Jews overstate how much they were targeted by the Nazis. Antisemites demonstrate their bigotry by questioning the numbers of dead or suggesting Jews were actually targeted for other reasons.

BackToLurk · 15/08/2026 14:50

Meanwhile the clock ticks as we continue to wait for an example of JKR's transphobia.

RedToothBrush · 15/08/2026 14:57

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

No. Not a woman of any kind regardless of prefix.

A DSD Male.

Helleofabore · 15/08/2026 15:10

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

The posts using 'cis' are a good reminder that the term 'cis' is meaningless because the term includes any male person who has a DSD yet has a body that is **formed around the production of small gametes that has any degree of sensitivity to any of the testosterone that body produces.

Using this word, cis, then means there is no word left for female people.
Because even male people are now saying they are also ‘female’ . When ^^ female means only a person of the sex category where that person's body has been formed around the production of large gametes, regardless of whether the body does, has or ever will produce those large gametes. ie that requires the presence of ovaries or ovarian tissue - never testes. This has also recently been the basis of the new IOC policy too,

(from the IOC policy:

This is under the definitions section:

Sex: Either of the two categories, Male or Female, into which humans are divided according to their reproductive biology.
Biological Female (Female): An individual who, regardless of their legal sex or gender identity, experienced female sex development usually based on their XX-chromosomes, ovaries, and estrogenic hormones.

https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/International-Olympic-Committee/EB/policy/policy-on-the-protection-of-the-female-category-english.pdf )

In fact, we now have examples of many male people declaring that they are female people. So even the word for female has become meaningless in that sense.

But 'cis' is a* *word that was repurposed from its original usage and is meaningless for the purpose of discussing female people in its current usage. It has been used in academic papers as well in an attempt at using inclusive language which then renders the papers meaningless because the term is not describing a unique grouping of human bodies, even when it claims to be doing just that.

To see how this works, we have been told that 'girl' and 'woman' both now include:

1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **.
2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.
3 And any person who has a female body ^^.

Under the label of 'girl' and 'woman', extreme transgender activists have been telling us for years that those labels break down into two types of girls or women:
Cis and Transwomen/transgirls.

These terms mean:
Cis
= (1) Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **
and
= (3) Any person who has a female body^^
Trans
= (2) Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

Therefore there is no unique word to mean female people who have a body ^^ formed around the production of large gametes.

Cis is meaningless as a unique description for female people and it always was. It is also misogynistic because it leaves female people with no unique word for their needs.

And that is not even covering the discussion about forcibly categorising someone to believe in gender identity when they don’t, which is what the use of ‘cis’ forces.

Thanks @TransParentlyAnnoyed for showing people this with your post.

Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?
UtopiaPlanitia · 15/08/2026 16:13

6ate9 · 15/08/2026 10:06

Do some men REALLY believe they can change sex? Whenever I read this, I can’t quite believe that anyone can think this. Do they ever wonder why they don’t have a female reproductive system after “changing sex?”

To paraphrase a GC Twitter account whose name I've briefly forgotten (thanks perimenopause):

Womanhood as defined by Genderism comprises all the things that men can purchase or acquire like clothes, makeup, wigs etc. It is deliberately not defined by Genderism as all the things that women just are (as adult human females) and that men can't acquire or purchase.

UtopiaPlanitia · 15/08/2026 16:20

oldtiredcyclist · 15/08/2026 14:45

That is exactly what Khelif is, a man whose sport involves hitting women. There were independent tests carried in two different labs in India, which clearly showed that Khelif has XY chromosomes.
None of us have said that Kehlif is trans, he has a male DSD.

I've read a number of interviews with Khelif (stretching back to the Paris Olympics) in which Khelif has stated that he finds it offensive to be labelled as 'trans' by Western people/media. Khelif has gone on record as staying he's definitely not transgender and he would prefer it if he were not referred to as such.

6ate9 · 15/08/2026 16:27

UtopiaPlanitia · 15/08/2026 16:13

To paraphrase a GC Twitter account whose name I've briefly forgotten (thanks perimenopause):

Womanhood as defined by Genderism comprises all the things that men can purchase or acquire like clothes, makeup, wigs etc. It is deliberately not defined by Genderism as all the things that women just are (as adult human females) and that men can't acquire or purchase.

Thank you for that!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2026 16:33

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

He is not a woman, he is a man with a male DSD which gives him a sporting advantage over women.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/08/2026 16:49

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 15/08/2026 14:36

She repeatedly called Khelif a man who enjoyed hitting women.

That put Khelif in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria.

Khelif is a cis woman, and you don't know her medical details.

Do you support those comments then? They were widely viewed as racist for a reason.

Trans people were specifically targeted, and very early on: in May 1933, the Institute For Sexual Sciences run by Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was ransacked, his books on transgender subjects publicly burned - and the tiny trans community was then ruthlessly, systematically attacked. Because they were trans, not because of their sexual orientation.

History is right there, and pretending it isn't is denial.

He was disqualified from the IBA Women's World Boxing Championships in New Delhi, India in 2023 because he failed a sex test.
That doesn't seem to have put him in grave danger because being trans is de factor criminalised in Algeria. Maybe because the theocratic regime in Algeria don't consider him to be 'trans', anymore than JKR does, she said he was a man, which he is.

The only people who are calling him 'trans' are people who are desperate to cast JKR in any bad light they can invent, to prop up the delusion that they're 'the good guys'.

They're not and eventually their fabricated world view will collapse and they'll come face to face with what they really are.

Phew, I'm glad I'm not one of those guys, it's gonna be brutal.

AlwaysExtraHot · 15/08/2026 17:57

UtopiaPlanitia · 15/08/2026 16:20

I've read a number of interviews with Khelif (stretching back to the Paris Olympics) in which Khelif has stated that he finds it offensive to be labelled as 'trans' by Western people/media. Khelif has gone on record as staying he's definitely not transgender and he would prefer it if he were not referred to as such.

Cry me a river. I find it offensive that he has been competing against women, not to mention that he's been made up and coiffed and dressed and put on magazine covers to try to 'prove' that he's female when it's plain as the nose on your face that he isn't.

SidewaysOtter · 15/08/2026 19:07

AlwaysExtraHot · 15/08/2026 17:57

Cry me a river. I find it offensive that he has been competing against women, not to mention that he's been made up and coiffed and dressed and put on magazine covers to try to 'prove' that he's female when it's plain as the nose on your face that he isn't.

I don’t think @UtopiaPlanitia is defending Khelif, she’s showing that he’s never identified as trans so the likes of TransParentlyAnnoyed shouldn’t be using that as some kind of gotcha.

As for Khelif being female - what a crock of bollocks (retained or otherwise). You’ve only got to see how his male team around him treat and interact with him to know that they don’t really see him as female, either.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/08/2026 20:47

BackToLurk · 15/08/2026 14:49

Hirschold was Jewish. Denying or diminishing the targeting of Jews by the Nazis is antisemitic. It is straight from the playbook of those fascists (the real ones) who seek to push the narrative that Jews overstate how much they were targeted by the Nazis. Antisemites demonstrate their bigotry by questioning the numbers of dead or suggesting Jews were actually targeted for other reasons.

He was also gay and from the little I know about him the principal focus of his research and clinical work had always been homosexuality. He was bound to be targeted by the Nazis.

Northernlightsss · 15/08/2026 23:36

BezMark · 15/08/2026 09:05

gender is also real that has very definite and measurable materially real causes and consequences as in biological (hormonal, genetic, evolutionary) & environmental influences.

I'm interested in the science backing this statement up. My degree in Anatomy from the University of Edinburgh (clang) is a bit long in the tooth now and I'm not and have never been a working scientist. There are things that are known now that weren't known back in the 90s, and things that were known then but that we/I didn't study.

So there's no reason for me to believe I'm fully informed of the current science underlying the statement above. However there is good enough reason for optimism that I could read and understand the journal papers, meta analyses or whatever form in which the information is availble.

Gender as in average/typical sexed behaviours that are influenced by hormones genes, evolutionary pressures & cultural expectations. Examples like a 'butch' female or 'effeminate' male who might personally associate more with the opposite sex identity wise in terms of typical behaviours.

Northernlightsss · 15/08/2026 23:52

Helleofabore · 15/08/2026 09:40

“The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge, “ she writes. “If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.”

and

When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman—and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones—then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside.”

These are the two quotes that you have pointed out as being JK Rowling’s ‘transphobbia’.

Did you note that even the writer of this weak argument wrote the following:

“Transitioning isn’t easy but Rowling seems to be saying people can choose to transition on a whim simply because they think it’s more convenient to be one gender than another.”

‘Seems’ So… they even indicate that this is their own interpretation of her words that they, personally, have extrapolated.

What is interesting, is that this writer has missed something hugely significant. in the UK, transitioning only requires someone saying they have a transgender identity. This writer has used their personal belief about what a transgender identity means and any process required to gain a GRC to make their accusation.

This writer has confused their own belief about the pathway people have to take to be considered someone with a transgender identity with the reality of the process. And added their own perception of the emotional journey as well. They have decided their own personal criteria and belief about transgender identities as being representative of all of the group of people with transgender identities.

I consider this transphobic of the writer. This writer has arbitrated what is criteria for being a person with a transgender identity. We have seen numerous posters on FWR do this over the years who consider themselves to be defending transgender people.

That is also why neither of these two direct quotes you have selected and bolded show what you, and the writer of this woefully weak article, believe it shows.

As for this justification from the writer :

The fear that a large number of transgender women are just men who want to be able to use women-only spaces unchecked is a harmful stereotype that paints trans people as predators instead of just human beings who want to live their lives.”

The writer has used emotional reasoning to coerce, while using misinformation to confuse the reader.

a large number of transgender women are just men who want to be able to use women-only spaces unchecked

There are male person who is above 8 years old who do claim to have transgender identifies who do want to use the female only single sex provision. They self publish that they do, and indeed, many simply did as they wanted when this article was written. In large numbers.

This writer then attributes the fear to those male people being painted as predators.

There are two issues immediately that spring to mind about that action from the writer. One is that it tries to dishonestly make the statement that no male people with transgender identities are predators.

The writer doesn’t address that materially real fact proven with convictions in the UK that some male people with transgender identities have been in prison for sex crimes which specifically fit the description of ‘predator’. Instead the writer uses a false generalisation device to make the reader believe this never happens.

The writer hides the truth behind a false generalisation.

The other obvious issue that this writer ignores is the general behaviour pattern that can be described as ‘predatory’ is that of ignoring female people’s lack of consent and acting in ways that cause that female person harm. Any male person over the age of 8 years old using a single sex provision where female people have the expectation that no male people over the age of 8 years old are also using that provision with them, is doing so without that female person’s consent.

Being a male with a transgender identity does not mean that they can ignore female people’s consent and it never did. They might have believed otherwise, however, from a safeguarding principle perspective a sex segregated provision was only ever for female people to access. As humans cannot change sex, those male people should never have been using a female single sex provision. The behaviour of ignoring a female person’s consent by entering a female single sex provision is a predatory behaviour.

The writer is lazy and uses very superficial explanations and their own bad faith and inaccurate representations that fall apart with scrutiny. It makes the accusations meaningless.

Edit to add: I forgot to clarify how the writer attempts to coerce in that false statement. They attempt to coerce because they portray female people as being unreasonable in rejecting those male people with transgender identities. That is an emotional coercion tactic.

Edited

Thank you. Finally someone with the courage to engage substantively with the argument of my comment.

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

You claim the writer doesn’t address that materially real fact proven of these stereotypes but you could say exactly the same about the typical behaviours of women. Just because instances of the stereotypical behaviour exist in individuals doesn't mean it's reflective of the group. And that is the issue here: Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

UtopiaPlanitia · 16/08/2026 00:06

SidewaysOtter · 15/08/2026 19:07

I don’t think @UtopiaPlanitia is defending Khelif, she’s showing that he’s never identified as trans so the likes of TransParentlyAnnoyed shouldn’t be using that as some kind of gotcha.

As for Khelif being female - what a crock of bollocks (retained or otherwise). You’ve only got to see how his male team around him treat and interact with him to know that they don’t really see him as female, either.

Exactly, I'm not defending him.

Just stating for those on the thread who are describing him as trans that Khelif doesn't want to be associated with or claimed by the trans movement.

Khelif is on record in interviews as saying that he considers being called trans an insult to him, his family, and his country.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 00:06

RareGoalsVerge · 15/08/2026 12:28

What harmful stereotypes? Can you illustrate this assertion with any actual quotes? Saying things like (I am not quoting but generalising) "men are statistically more likely to be violent than women so it is ok for women's shelters to exclude all men to keep women safe" isn't a harmful stereotype it is using known actual facts to identify ways to reduce risk - any particular male person being excluded from such a place because of being male, and is not being stereotyped or accused of being violent/dangerous.

I have certainly seen people (not JKR) make nasty stereotyped assertions about transwomen eg "All transwomen are mentally disturbed narcissists who get a perverted thrill from invading women's privacy" - which isn't true of all transwomen and is a stereotype just as much as "all girls like pink and enjoy ballet" is a stereotype of girls. What stereotypes have you seen from JKR?

Gender is real, for those who experience it. It's not true that everyone has one and the lie that everyone does is harmful. It is not the basis for any provision of services where it is necessary to divide people into male and female for reasons of dignity, privacy, decency or safety.

As for the scientific evidence for what gender is, there have been so many potential research projects that were cancelled and their proposed lead scientist punished for even formulating the question when genuine rigorous scientific enquiry into the topic was considered, and so many studies without rigorous elimination of bias, based on assumptions that beg the question, that generalise from tiny samples, that exclude inconvenient results and that totally fail to hold to basic principles of scientific endeavours, that the evidence base is pretty weak, and built on a shaky house-of-cards. Genuine scientists will be open to convincing evidence - that is what science is - but every study where I've actually been able to examine the real results (rather than just reading the credulous interpretation from a pop-science journalist who brushes over the data to get the headline) is guilty of such monumental shortcomings in failing to measure and correct for other potential comorbidities and influencing factors that they are only taken as "evidence" by people who are already "of the faith" and that is not real science. Academia has totally failed to eliminate ideology from these enquiries and it will be a long haul before that can be reset. I don't deny that there might well be very real causes of gender identification - but by far the greatest is sexist assumptions about what traits indicate femaleness and what traits indicate maleness. Questioning such faulty research is not transphobia.

What harmful stereotypes? Can you illustrate this assertion with any actual quotes? Saying things like (I am not quoting but generalising) "men are statistically more likely to be violent than women so it is ok for women's shelters to exclude all men to keep women safe" isn't a harmful stereotype it is using known actual facts to identify ways to reduce risk - any particular male person being excluded from such a place because of being male, and is not being stereotyped or accused of being violent/dangerous.

See above comment for this answer on inconsistency.

Gender is real, for those who experience it. It's not true that everyone has one and the lie that everyone does is harmful. It is not the basis for any provision of services where it is necessary to divide people into male and female for reasons of dignity, privacy, decency or safety.

I don't agree gender doesn't apply to all because its a spectrum including non binary. Just because people don't associate their gendered inclinations to their identity doesn't mean they don't have one.

It is not the basis for any provision of services where it is necessary to divide people into male and female for reasons of dignity, privacy, decency or safety.

Depends on the circumstances whether proportionality or balancing of rights is necessary which varies culturally.

Academia has totally failed to eliminate ideology from these enquiries and it will be a long haul before that can be reset. I don't deny that there might well be very real causes of gender identification - but by far the greatest is sexist assumptions about what traits indicate femaleness and what traits indicate maleness. Questioning such faulty research is not transphobia.

Typical sexed behaviours that are influenced by genes, hormones or evolutionary pressures is scientifically uncontroversial.

dinodart · 16/08/2026 00:33

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 00:06

What harmful stereotypes? Can you illustrate this assertion with any actual quotes? Saying things like (I am not quoting but generalising) "men are statistically more likely to be violent than women so it is ok for women's shelters to exclude all men to keep women safe" isn't a harmful stereotype it is using known actual facts to identify ways to reduce risk - any particular male person being excluded from such a place because of being male, and is not being stereotyped or accused of being violent/dangerous.

See above comment for this answer on inconsistency.

Gender is real, for those who experience it. It's not true that everyone has one and the lie that everyone does is harmful. It is not the basis for any provision of services where it is necessary to divide people into male and female for reasons of dignity, privacy, decency or safety.

I don't agree gender doesn't apply to all because its a spectrum including non binary. Just because people don't associate their gendered inclinations to their identity doesn't mean they don't have one.

It is not the basis for any provision of services where it is necessary to divide people into male and female for reasons of dignity, privacy, decency or safety.

Depends on the circumstances whether proportionality or balancing of rights is necessary which varies culturally.

Academia has totally failed to eliminate ideology from these enquiries and it will be a long haul before that can be reset. I don't deny that there might well be very real causes of gender identification - but by far the greatest is sexist assumptions about what traits indicate femaleness and what traits indicate maleness. Questioning such faulty research is not transphobia.

Typical sexed behaviours that are influenced by genes, hormones or evolutionary pressures is scientifically uncontroversial.

"Just because people don't associate their gendered inclinations to their identity doesn't mean they don't have one."

What if I'm non-binary and don't know it or claim it? I'm not getting the oppression points I'm rightly deserved. So many people may be going un-diagnosed...

I'm a woman who doesn't wear make-up and doesn't shave, hates dresses and skirts and showing skin. So what am I? And what are women who perform femininity and call themselves non-binary? It's all self-diagnosed and arbitrary...

NotBadConsidering · 16/08/2026 00:45

Northernlightsss · 15/08/2026 23:52

Thank you. Finally someone with the courage to engage substantively with the argument of my comment.

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

You claim the writer doesn’t address that materially real fact proven of these stereotypes but you could say exactly the same about the typical behaviours of women. Just because instances of the stereotypical behaviour exist in individuals doesn't mean it's reflective of the group. And that is the issue here: Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

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The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

JKR didn’t do this though. Where did she do this? The quotes don’t say this at all.

Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours.

JKR didn’t do this though. Where did she do this? The quotes don’t say this at all.

Care to try again?

NotBadConsidering · 16/08/2026 00:57

Just because people don't associate their gendered inclinations to their identity doesn't mean they don't have one.

Just because people don’t associate their actions, experiences and inclinations to any religion or the existence of God, doesn’t mean they don’t have one or there isn’t one.

Yes, this is exactly what it means. Any behaviour I exhibit that may or may not be sex stereotypical is just that. It is only part of an identity if you are a believer in the existence of such an identity, in the same way believing that deciding to do something like start a family or take particular job is “God’s will”.

Both are social constructs to help people make sense of things and give them something to grasp onto. People grasp onto the socially constructed concept of “gender identity” because they can’t grasp the idea their behaviour just is what it is without it. They need the framework to help them figure out where they belong and to make sense of it all. It’s pretty sad overall.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 01:12

dinodart · 16/08/2026 00:33

"Just because people don't associate their gendered inclinations to their identity doesn't mean they don't have one."

What if I'm non-binary and don't know it or claim it? I'm not getting the oppression points I'm rightly deserved. So many people may be going un-diagnosed...

I'm a woman who doesn't wear make-up and doesn't shave, hates dresses and skirts and showing skin. So what am I? And what are women who perform femininity and call themselves non-binary? It's all self-diagnosed and arbitrary...

You are confusing two different concepts: Gender & gender self identification. Just because gender identification is arbitrary doesn't mean gender doesn't exist. Gender is independent of self identification.

Gender is the broad social and cultural system of roles, behaviors, and expectations tied to sex. Gender identity is a specific part of gender: a person's deep, internal sense of being a man, woman, both, or neither. Gender is the whole category, while gender identity is your 'personal truth inside'

What are you in terms of gender objectively? Sounds non binary.

Self identification means just that. A subjective choice that's reliant on values & beliefs. But just because gender self identification is arbitrary doesn't mean gender on its own doesn't exist.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 01:16

NotBadConsidering · 16/08/2026 00:45

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

JKR didn’t do this though. Where did she do this? The quotes don’t say this at all.

Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours.

JKR didn’t do this though. Where did she do this? The quotes don’t say this at all.

Care to try again?

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

JKR didn’t do this though. Where did she do this? The quotes don’t say this at all.

Already covered in the link. Read the link.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 01:34

Northernlightsss · 15/08/2026 23:52

Thank you. Finally someone with the courage to engage substantively with the argument of my comment.

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

You claim the writer doesn’t address that materially real fact proven of these stereotypes but you could say exactly the same about the typical behaviours of women. Just because instances of the stereotypical behaviour exist in individuals doesn't mean it's reflective of the group. And that is the issue here: Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

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Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

JKR doesn't believe, has never said and does not represent all trans people as delusional and predatory.

It's just as much a stereotype that no trans people are dangerous, as that all trans people are dangerous.

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