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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.

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AsWithGlad · 10/08/2026 14:37

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Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very enthusiastic crew of gerbils, and any curious menfolk are welcome at the Staunch Ally down the road.

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PastaAllaNorma · 18/08/2026 22:38

Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 21:53

I want one.

I want one.

I WANT ONE NOW!!!!!!

ETA the cuddle pouch thingy that is. The GP is cute but Maud said she doesn't wish to share the back bedroom.

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Say the word, Boily! I bought a LOT of fleece.

This one is a double layer of fleece, and the lap part has two layers of towelling inside because guinea pigs are prone to having a piddle.

ChristmasStars · 18/08/2026 22:57

I'm in awe of @Hedgehogforshort and her powers of observation.

AsWithGlad · 18/08/2026 23:42

MyrtleLion · 18/08/2026 19:17

23. The First Day

In which the gerbils are put to work…

They were told to arrive at nine and arrived at twenty past eight, which meant standing in the yard for half an hour while the light came up over the fen and Griffin saying twice that she had told everyone half past would do.

The door was opened by the hamster apprentice, who looked at them without the clipboard.

“You’re early.”

“We are,” said Griffin.

“Nobody’s ever early.” She stood aside. “Coats on the hooks. No, not that hook.”

Inside, the north light was already flat across the benches. Fenella Burnish was at the far end with her back to them, doing something to a panel with a brush no wider than a whisker, and did not turn round for four minutes. Gimbal counted them.

“Good,” said Fenella, when she did turn. “Halcyon, show them where things are and then bring Graphic to me.”

The apprentice showed them where things were at considerable speed. The glass store, the lead store, the kiln, the sink that was for hands and the sink that was emphatically not for hands, the cupboard with the flux in it, the shelf above the cupboard with the flux that was not to be confused with the flux in the cupboard, and a broom, which she pointed out with the particular emphasis of somebody who expected it to matter later.

Graphic was taken to Fenella’s bench and given a tray of blue glass fragments and a colour chart, and told to put them in order, palest to deepest.

Griffin was taken to a laptop on a stand at the end of the bench, already open on a spreadsheet, and Halcyon talked her through it at some length. There was a tab for glass by colour, a tab for glass by size, a tab for lead came, a tab for paint, a tab for brushes, a tab for kiln bookings, a tab for clients, and several more whose purposes Halcyon explained fully, and Griffin absorbed without asking questions. The monotony was broken by the arrival of a parcel at 11.30. Halcyon scanned its barcode, and a blank row in the spreadsheet filled itself in without either of them touching the keyboard again.

“Is that it?” said Griffin.

“That’s it,” said Halcyon. “I just have to add my name, to show I’ve checked it.”

Gimbal was given a bowl of warm water and a soft brush and a tray of glass fragments to clean. Once she looked properly, she could see the fragments did not need cleaning at all. She cleaned them anyway, one at a time, out of the tray and into the water and up to the light and back into the tray, and by 12.30, she had cleaned 61 bits of glass and had stopped being able to feel two of her fingers. Every one of the 61 pieces had looked exactly the same going back into the tray as it had coming out.

Graphic worked along her tray piece by piece, holding two fragments together at the same angle to the same patch of sky whenever the difference was close. Fenella came by once, early on, and adjusted Graphic’s hold on the tweezers, moving her paw a few millimetres along the shaft without comment, and did not correct it again, because it did not need correcting again.

Graphic continued checking each placement twice before she trusted it, and one fragment near the middle she checked four times before she left it where it was. She was setting down the last piece when Fenella returned to the bench, which was not, Graphic understood at once, a coincidence.

Fenella looked at the row for a long moment. “Talent,” she said, “exactly where I hoped it would be,” and there was nothing withheld in the way she said it, no reservation of any kind, only the particular pleasure of a flame bowerbird watching something she had already privately decided would happen.

Then she swept the row off the bench and back into the tray with one motion of her wing, the morning’s work returned to a heap of glass. “Time for lunch,” she said, and left it at that.

Lunch was 25 minutes in a small room off the workshop with a kettle, three chairs, and a note on the wall in Fenella’s hand asking that mugs be rinsed. Grub and Gastronome had made each of them a packed lunch.

“What did you do this morning?” said Gimbal.

“I sorted a tray of glass,” said Graphic, “and then Fenella swept it back into a heap.”

“I cleaned glass that wasn’t dirty,” said Gimbal.

“I watched a spreadsheet fill itself in,” said Griffin.

After lunch Graphic returned to the bench and the heap of glass fragments. Fenella came over and held a piece of glass up to the light. “There’s blue with red under it,” she told her, “and blue with green under it, and once you’ve an eye for the difference you’ll never lose it, and it’s worth having, because that difference is what a window does to a room at four in the afternoon, and pale to deep is only what it does sitting on a bench in the daylight.” She set the tray down. “Any competent copyist can sort depth, let’s see if you can sort by warmth.”

Graphic began again, holding each fragment against its neighbour, weighing it, setting it down, moving to the next, the whole tray to be rebuilt from nothing before it could be checked at all.

At quarter to four a parcel came in without a barcode, and Halcyon entered it by hand, field by field, down to the bottom of the form, where she typed her own name without pausing, and clicked done.

Gimbal was handed the broom and asked to sweep the floors of the workshop and the break-room and to make sure the front step was clean. The floors did not need sweeping. The step was already clean. She swept all three anyway.

It was close to five before Graphic placed the last piece down, warmest to coolest, without a single one needing to be moved twice. At that moment, Fenella arrived at the bench and picked up the last piece, turned it once in the light, and set it back exactly where Graphic had put it. “Rare,” she said, “twice in one workshop,” considerably pleased with herself. Then she said, “It’s five o’clock, I’ll see you all tomorrow.”

By the time they arrived at the Bluestocking, nobody had said a word. Griffin took a moment longer than usual working her arm free of her sleeve before she hung the coat up at all.

Gasket put mugs of tea down in front of all three before anyone had asked for anything.

“How was it?” said Girdle.

“Long,” said Gimbal, and didn’t say anything else for a while. “I cleaned glass that wasn’t dirty,” she said eventually. “Then swept a floor that didn’t need it.”

“I sorted the same tray twice,” said Graphic. “Once by depth. Once by warmth.”

“I watched a spreadsheet fill itself automatically,” said Griffin, some time after that, not looking up from her tea. “And all Halcyon had to do was type her name, Halcyon Hessell.”

“Say that again,” said @Hedgehogforshort.

“Halcyon Hessell.”

“How’s it spelled?”

“Hessell,” said Griffin. “Two S’s, two L’s.”

“That’s the name on the delivery label,” said Hedgehog. “Under the Winchester photograph. H. Hes, and Wicken. You’ve just confirmed that Gemma Glasswing’s replicas go to Fenella Burnish’s workshop.”

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/23-the-first-day

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Graphic looks so lovely in this photograph. So humble despite her excellent skills and so hopeful that Fenella will approve.

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PastaAllaNorma · 19/08/2026 01:13

I can't like Fenella.

Chickadeeinme · 19/08/2026 04:24

PastaAllaNorma · 19/08/2026 01:13

I can't like Fenella.

I’m not convinced we’re supposed to.

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/08/2026 06:25

Chickadeeinme · 19/08/2026 04:24

I’m not convinced we’re supposed to.

Me neither.

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 07:18

I'm reposting my hopes for Fenella.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.
AngleofRepose · 19/08/2026 08:14

Good morning! Bar gerbils, a large hot chocolate and a croissant, please. I'm celebrating because it actually Rained rained overnight! Not a huge amount, but there's enough evidence around to indicate that it was definitely not just another surrounding of mist and drizzle. And much cooler this morning. Sunny now, but forecast more rain tonight. Finally!

Plans for today include a stern conversation with the shoe company, because I'm getting my money back. Wish me luck!

HAGADAPA! Hopefully, I'll be back before the move.

(I want a cuddle pouch, too, now. For me.) 😊

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 08:25

We had a bit of rain overnight too. Girlcat jumped on the bed at 2.53am to tell me all about it.

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/08/2026 08:26

The cars are wet so it must have rained here too.

RumNotRun · 19/08/2026 08:36

I started reading a book last night which I was hoping would be very gentle fantasy, almost like a fairytale for grown-ups cause I've read a lot of thought provoking books recently. It's about a goblin and a halfling. The goblin keeps being referred to as they/them and it is driving me nuts. Now I've noticed it, I don't think I'll be able to un notice it.

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 09:06

Send the goblin on a course.
I bet Gillian runs one.

EdithStourton · 19/08/2026 09:20

Gillian would begin with a stiff workout, followed by holding the goblin down in a bucket while she showered them off. They would then be expected to sit quietly (dripping, because they would have annoyed her enough not to be allowed a towel or the hairdryer) as Gillian set up her slides.

Our Gillian would then order herself a large hot chocolate with all the trimmings, commenting loudly to the bar staff that, 'They is pissing me off, they seems to think that special pronouns make you special rather than just irritating. Also, they is rank, their personal hygiene is terrible, someone needs to take a look at they's teeth. Or is it them's teeth? Dunno, don't care, right, Gobbers, got your pencil? You can have a hot chocolate at elevenses if you get with the programme. Mmn, this one is very good. First slide...'
"Don't call me Gobbers, I don't like it!'
'I'm they-themming you. That's as far as I'll go. First slide...'
'And I'm all wet!'
'You should have thought about that when you didn't wash for a month. Anyway, it's warm, you'll dry. As you can see, my first slide shows that... PICK UP YOUR PENCIL AND TAKE NOTES!'

EdithStourton · 19/08/2026 09:27

Oh, and I'm afraid that my advice for winter footwear is 'wellies'.

Though I do have an assortment of smarter boots to wear when I'm going to more presentable places, including a nice purple lace-up pair. I should enjoy them more often, but I spend so much time in the aforementioned wellies that I tend forget I've got them.

I really enjoy long summer dresses, and want to add a long winter one to my wardrobe to give me an option other than 'trousers' or 'very old knee-length skirt' when I go anywhere that's not covered in mud. I might have to go into town...

MyrtleLion · 19/08/2026 09:28

I had thought the Walrus left the hose turned on and it leaked onto the patio overnight. But then I saw it was wet on the higher level.

Perhaps the water fell from the sky... 🤔

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.
MyrtleLion · 19/08/2026 09:29

I am going to That London for a hospital appointment and I have to drive because it's far.

Gosie will be with you this evening, but might be later than expected.

EdithStourton · 19/08/2026 09:31

Good luck in London, Myrtle.
And we had a bit of rain here, too.

The British:
Get rain, talk about it.
Don't get rain, talk about it.
At least it means, as many others have observed, that we never lack a conversation starter.

DeanElderberry · 19/08/2026 09:45

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 07:18

I'm reposting my hopes for Fenella.

Don't you think there's a danger she'd erupt out of it, four-and-twenty-blackbirds style, and do her even more worst.

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 09:46

DeanElderberry · 19/08/2026 09:45

Don't you think there's a danger she'd erupt out of it, four-and-twenty-blackbirds style, and do her even more worst.

Nah, she's been well skewered.

DeanElderberry · 19/08/2026 09:47

Oh yes, damp and cooler here too. I think I may have accidentally discovered a rain producing technique. I'm leading a wildlife walk this evening.

HAGADAPA

FuzzyPuffling · 19/08/2026 09:47

@EdithStourton
I love, love, love your "Gillian's Special Course". She has definitely found her calling there. More please!

PastaAllaNorma · 19/08/2026 10:11

Chickadeeinme · 19/08/2026 04:24

I’m not convinced we’re supposed to.

Aye, I know she's a wrong un. I forgot it's a family thing, "I can't like", not a ubiquitous phrase.

When DD was 2 or 3 she never said "I don't like," she said "I can't like," - as if she'd tried her best but forces beyond her contol compelled her to reject whatever it was. It became a kind of shorthand for anything that was clearly Not Acceptable.

It was very late last night and I forgot no one outside our house knows that. I'm a bit overtired

PastaAllaNorma · 19/08/2026 10:15

Conversely, today should be our dry day between our rainy ones this week.

I'm hoping to introduce the guinea pigs to the concept of grass by setting up a play area for them for an hour or two. Past experience is that this is a Very Exciting Thing for baby guineas.

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/08/2026 10:19

PastaAllaNorma · 19/08/2026 10:11

Aye, I know she's a wrong un. I forgot it's a family thing, "I can't like", not a ubiquitous phrase.

When DD was 2 or 3 she never said "I don't like," she said "I can't like," - as if she'd tried her best but forces beyond her contol compelled her to reject whatever it was. It became a kind of shorthand for anything that was clearly Not Acceptable.

It was very late last night and I forgot no one outside our house knows that. I'm a bit overtired

’I cannot like’ appears quite a bit in Georgette Heyer.

EdithStourton · 19/08/2026 10:21

DeanElderberry · 19/08/2026 09:45

Don't you think there's a danger she'd erupt out of it, four-and-twenty-blackbirds style, and do her even more worst.

She wouldn't be able to if you'd given her to me to sort out.
I can do bird=> pie. You just need a sharp knife.

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