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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.

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AsWithGlad · 10/08/2026 14:37

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Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very enthusiastic crew of gerbils, and any curious menfolk are welcome at the Staunch Ally down the road.

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ErrolTheDragon · 18/08/2026 19:09

Just caught the last segment of Paul Sinha’s Perfect Pub Quiz, about international airports named after women, which he finished with a campaign to rename Belfast airport after Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell which I very much enjoyed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0030cfp?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Paul Sinha's Perfect Pub Quiz - Series 5 - S5 E2: The Best Episode Ever - BBC Sounds

In Belfast, Paul Sinha presents the best-ever episode of his Perfect Pub Quiz.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0030cfp?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

MyrtleLion · 18/08/2026 19:11

Gosie episode about to be loaded.

MyrtleLion · 18/08/2026 19:12

ErrolTheDragon · 18/08/2026 18:00

Well obviously if you’re wearing boots like that you should have a chauffeur.

I very much want some nice boots so I can wear dresses in winter but between awkward feet which make heels impossible and, um, sturdy calves I’m not sure there’s much that wouldn’t be too clumpy. And before anyone suggests ankle boots, they never seem to work on me in dresses/skirts.

Theres also the slight logistical problem of how to shop for winter boots (which really has to be done in person not online) to wear with a dress at the point where one has no winter footwear which still fits that can be worn with a dress.Confused

Duo Boots: https://duoboots.com/

different calf sizes. They might have something that fits.

Wide Calf Boots & Narrow Calf Boots | DuoBoots UK

DuoBoots are specialists in wide calf and slim calf boots. We also offer two different shaft sizes for tall and petite women. With 8 calf sizes and 9 shoes sizes available, we’re proudly the most inclusive boot brand in the world.

https://duoboots.com

MyrtleLion · 18/08/2026 19:17

23. The First Day

In which the gerbils are put to work…

They were told to arrive at nine and arrived at twenty past eight, which meant standing in the yard for half an hour while the light came up over the fen and Griffin saying twice that she had told everyone half past would do.

The door was opened by the hamster apprentice, who looked at them without the clipboard.

“You’re early.”

“We are,” said Griffin.

“Nobody’s ever early.” She stood aside. “Coats on the hooks. No, not that hook.”

Inside, the north light was already flat across the benches. Fenella Burnish was at the far end with her back to them, doing something to a panel with a brush no wider than a whisker, and did not turn round for four minutes. Gimbal counted them.

“Good,” said Fenella, when she did turn. “Halcyon, show them where things are and then bring Graphic to me.”

The apprentice showed them where things were at considerable speed. The glass store, the lead store, the kiln, the sink that was for hands and the sink that was emphatically not for hands, the cupboard with the flux in it, the shelf above the cupboard with the flux that was not to be confused with the flux in the cupboard, and a broom, which she pointed out with the particular emphasis of somebody who expected it to matter later.

Graphic was taken to Fenella’s bench and given a tray of blue glass fragments and a colour chart, and told to put them in order, palest to deepest.

Griffin was taken to a laptop on a stand at the end of the bench, already open on a spreadsheet, and Halcyon talked her through it at some length. There was a tab for glass by colour, a tab for glass by size, a tab for lead came, a tab for paint, a tab for brushes, a tab for kiln bookings, a tab for clients, and several more whose purposes Halcyon explained fully, and Griffin absorbed without asking questions. The monotony was broken by the arrival of a parcel at 11.30. Halcyon scanned its barcode, and a blank row in the spreadsheet filled itself in without either of them touching the keyboard again.

“Is that it?” said Griffin.

“That’s it,” said Halcyon. “I just have to add my name, to show I’ve checked it.”

Gimbal was given a bowl of warm water and a soft brush and a tray of glass fragments to clean. Once she looked properly, she could see the fragments did not need cleaning at all. She cleaned them anyway, one at a time, out of the tray and into the water and up to the light and back into the tray, and by 12.30, she had cleaned 61 bits of glass and had stopped being able to feel two of her fingers. Every one of the 61 pieces had looked exactly the same going back into the tray as it had coming out.

Graphic worked along her tray piece by piece, holding two fragments together at the same angle to the same patch of sky whenever the difference was close. Fenella came by once, early on, and adjusted Graphic’s hold on the tweezers, moving her paw a few millimetres along the shaft without comment, and did not correct it again, because it did not need correcting again.

Graphic continued checking each placement twice before she trusted it, and one fragment near the middle she checked four times before she left it where it was. She was setting down the last piece when Fenella returned to the bench, which was not, Graphic understood at once, a coincidence.

Fenella looked at the row for a long moment. “Talent,” she said, “exactly where I hoped it would be,” and there was nothing withheld in the way she said it, no reservation of any kind, only the particular pleasure of a flame bowerbird watching something she had already privately decided would happen.

Then she swept the row off the bench and back into the tray with one motion of her wing, the morning’s work returned to a heap of glass. “Time for lunch,” she said, and left it at that.

Lunch was 25 minutes in a small room off the workshop with a kettle, three chairs, and a note on the wall in Fenella’s hand asking that mugs be rinsed. Grub and Gastronome had made each of them a packed lunch.

“What did you do this morning?” said Gimbal.

“I sorted a tray of glass,” said Graphic, “and then Fenella swept it back into a heap.”

“I cleaned glass that wasn’t dirty,” said Gimbal.

“I watched a spreadsheet fill itself in,” said Griffin.

After lunch Graphic returned to the bench and the heap of glass fragments. Fenella came over and held a piece of glass up to the light. “There’s blue with red under it,” she told her, “and blue with green under it, and once you’ve an eye for the difference you’ll never lose it, and it’s worth having, because that difference is what a window does to a room at four in the afternoon, and pale to deep is only what it does sitting on a bench in the daylight.” She set the tray down. “Any competent copyist can sort depth, let’s see if you can sort by warmth.”

Graphic began again, holding each fragment against its neighbour, weighing it, setting it down, moving to the next, the whole tray to be rebuilt from nothing before it could be checked at all.

At quarter to four a parcel came in without a barcode, and Halcyon entered it by hand, field by field, down to the bottom of the form, where she typed her own name without pausing, and clicked done.

Gimbal was handed the broom and asked to sweep the floors of the workshop and the break-room and to make sure the front step was clean. The floors did not need sweeping. The step was already clean. She swept all three anyway.

It was close to five before Graphic placed the last piece down, warmest to coolest, without a single one needing to be moved twice. At that moment, Fenella arrived at the bench and picked up the last piece, turned it once in the light, and set it back exactly where Graphic had put it. “Rare,” she said, “twice in one workshop,” considerably pleased with herself. Then she said, “It’s five o’clock, I’ll see you all tomorrow.”

By the time they arrived at the Bluestocking, nobody had said a word. Griffin took a moment longer than usual working her arm free of her sleeve before she hung the coat up at all.

Gasket put mugs of tea down in front of all three before anyone had asked for anything.

“How was it?” said Girdle.

“Long,” said Gimbal, and didn’t say anything else for a while. “I cleaned glass that wasn’t dirty,” she said eventually. “Then swept a floor that didn’t need it.”

“I sorted the same tray twice,” said Graphic. “Once by depth. Once by warmth.”

“I watched a spreadsheet fill itself automatically,” said Griffin, some time after that, not looking up from her tea. “And all Halcyon had to do was type her name, Halcyon Hessell.”

“Say that again,” said @Hedgehogforshort.

“Halcyon Hessell.”

“How’s it spelled?”

“Hessell,” said Griffin. “Two S’s, two L’s.”

“That’s the name on the delivery label,” said Hedgehog. “Under the Winchester photograph. H. Hes, and Wicken. You’ve just confirmed that Gemma Glasswing’s replicas go to Fenella Burnish’s workshop.”

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/23-the-first-day

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.
Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 19:32

"Then she swept the row off the bench and back into the tray with one motion of her wing, the morning’s work returned to a heap of glass. “Time for lunch,” she said, and left it at that."

@MyrtleLion Not going to lie, I'd have twatted the bitch.

Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 19:37

I feel for the gerbils . I have spent many a first day, having arrived way too early and been shown the broom, and assigned a non task or two, as thoroughly unimpressed as no doubt the gerbils were.

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/08/2026 19:42

Is anyone else a bit concerned about the gerbils?

AngleofRepose · 18/08/2026 19:45

ChristmasStars · 18/08/2026 18:46

She has the same outfit in real life!

Oh, I think I meant that some of you were saying that the final crocheted "Maud" product didn't look anything like the picture on the pattern, when it was finished, which was a shame. But, maybe I misunderstood.

AngleofRepose · 18/08/2026 19:47

Oh, what hard, boring work for the gerbils! I hope working as espionage agents is fulfilling enough for them. I would've smacked her one, too! (and then been fired)

AngleofRepose · 18/08/2026 19:49

Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 19:37

I feel for the gerbils . I have spent many a first day, having arrived way too early and been shown the broom, and assigned a non task or two, as thoroughly unimpressed as no doubt the gerbils were.

Yes, sounds an awful lot like many of my jobs 16-22, before I got my first "real" job! Rearranging items in the homeware department for 9 hours for 6 months was soul-destroying.

Magpiecomplex · 18/08/2026 19:53

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/08/2026 19:42

Is anyone else a bit concerned about the gerbils?

I think it'll come right. They have a pub full of formidable women looking out for them. Not to mention Gillian, and Giant Wombat.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 18/08/2026 20:33

AsWithGlad · 18/08/2026 18:52

My boot photos haven’t loaded yet. I’ll try again.

They’re style that means you really want ot have a pair every colour don’t you? The blue and the wine colour ones would go with a thousand outfits (I wear jeans a lot, and dress them up or down, but I’d love to have lots of matching boots.

I struggle with most high heels because they give me ball of foot pain. Never understood why but my balls and toes often start to burn and tingle - have walked home barefoot more times than I can remember. So I love a stylish, wacky, colourful boot.

AngleofRepose · 18/08/2026 20:49

I mean, look at poor Graphic's face! Fenella better watch her step, or we'll be in there! (don't worry @EmpressaurusKitty )

<mutters> pretty is as pretty does...😡

Chickadeeinme · 18/08/2026 21:08

I love the boots upthread! I used to love funky footwear, but my feet don’t allow it any more and I have to be sadly sensible with shoes I can get orthotics in or that have arch support built into them.

Magpiecomplex · 18/08/2026 21:11

Chickadeeinme · 18/08/2026 21:08

I love the boots upthread! I used to love funky footwear, but my feet don’t allow it any more and I have to be sadly sensible with shoes I can get orthotics in or that have arch support built into them.

I have orthotics in almost all my shoes. It's doable, with a bit of care.

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/08/2026 21:15

Kitty’s thinking she’ll just wander over in that direction every so often & make sure everything’s ok.

Nobody’s going to notice a little tabby looking down into the skylights from one of the poplars.

FuzzyPuffling · 18/08/2026 21:18

Fenella is a right git.

She can sod right off. But im sorry the gerbils seem to be such weedy wets. Send in a capybara to sort them all out.

PastaAllaNorma · 18/08/2026 21:19

Soot Sprite is testing the cuddle pouch I made this evening as we watch Sewing Bee together (fittingly)

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.
FuzzyPuffling · 18/08/2026 21:27

Pasta adorable. Gorgeous piggy.

Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 21:53

PastaAllaNorma · 18/08/2026 21:19

Soot Sprite is testing the cuddle pouch I made this evening as we watch Sewing Bee together (fittingly)

I want one.

I want one.

I WANT ONE NOW!!!!!!

ETA the cuddle pouch thingy that is. The GP is cute but Maud said she doesn't wish to share the back bedroom.

Boiledbeetle · 18/08/2026 21:55

Day 230 in the Bb house.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which we wait excitedly for the next instalment of Gosie's adventures. Gosie, Glass and the Gerbils' Dilemma.
EdithStourton · 18/08/2026 22:00

Well, Fenella is an unpleasant piece of work.
I bet she's the kind of boss who sighs and eye-rolls if you ask for guidance, and sighs and eye-rolls even more if you don't ask for guidance and either get it wrong, or take all day over a half-hour job.

I've just got home after being out for the evening. I braked so hard that a back tyre squealed because I thought I saw an owl on the road, but it was just a crumpled paper back, and a few miles later braked gently because I saw movement along the middle of the road. I thought it was perhaps an unwise young rabbit, but it turned its head and it resolved itself into a very cross green-eyed black and white cat turning to look at me in outrage and alarm. It put one paw in the wrong direction and then ran the other way. I would have missed it anyway.

My day's nature discovery was that when you disturb skylarks, they have a rather squeaky alarm call.

Also, never mind all the shoes, I want Boily's PJs, but with full-length arms and legs.

AsWithGlad · 18/08/2026 22:23

At the moment I have all three colours of boots, but they are within the return period so I haven’t yet decided what to do. Similarly some lace-up shoes in four colours (same plus a useful khaki) with broad fronts and narrow heels, which were £28 each. Originally £159, apparently.

The problem is I don’t get out much, 😉, so the sensible decision would just be to keep the black.

Last year I managed with black and navy “rolling sole” trainers, as recommended by the podiatrist, and the last two summers with some Vionic sandals via TKMaxx. This winter I want to be a bit smarter. Boots with dresses and flats with trousers?

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AsWithGlad · 18/08/2026 22:31

FuzzyPuffling · 18/08/2026 21:18

Fenella is a right git.

She can sod right off. But im sorry the gerbils seem to be such weedy wets. Send in a capybara to sort them all out.

But im sorry the gerbils seem to be such weedy wets

I don’t understand, Fuzzy. Do you mean our highly, although quickly, trained espionage team?

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AsWithGlad · 18/08/2026 22:34

Boily’s pyjamas look very smart, but I’m concerned that they might need ironing.

I’ve heard the word before.
It’s sleeping in my memory.
I won’t disturb the slumber
Of feelings actions that have died…

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