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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Coffee Chain Tim Hortons in Canada does Harry Potter donuts and ppl lose their minds

105 replies

dinodart · 30/07/2026 04:04

A coffee chain in Canada will be releasing a few Harry Potter themed things like donuts in August and a few people are losing their minds over it, making nicknames like TERF Hortons.

"Choosing donuts over the safety of trans people is certainly a choice. What a terrible f---ing thing to do."

This article is real, published by the government funded media agency CBC in Canada, it's not a parody...

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tim-hortons-harry-potter-jk-rowling-9.7287100

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dinodart · 31/07/2026 15:01

hahabahbag · 31/07/2026 08:24

What is 2s? New one on me

two spirit, it's an indigenous thing, though that said... indigenous tribes are all very distinct and not all have the concept, or use it the same way. like many things, it's use is contentious to some people.

we go insane with the acroynyms in canada, lol, even MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ was used at one point. (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, and Two‑Spirit is the beginning)

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dinodart · 31/07/2026 15:05

KilkennyCats · 31/07/2026 08:28

Who are these people, whose “safety” is compromised by a doughnut?
Whoever thinks this trans bollocks is not a mental illness is dead wrong.

they have been taught to be victims, and that everyone hates them. i'm sure that some of them literally think this is "harm".

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Iamnotalemming · 31/07/2026 15:41

It's "psycological harm". See also "safe spaces" which = "echo chamber where no-one will misgender anyone" and not "safety from risk of physical harm because, oh I don't know, it's been described as single sex but it's actually mixed space".

Breadlegs · 31/07/2026 15:46

I've just been to florida and I can confirm that enough HP merchandise is bought every second to keep JK supporting women for centuries.

KilkennyCats · 31/07/2026 16:08

dinodart · 31/07/2026 15:01

two spirit, it's an indigenous thing, though that said... indigenous tribes are all very distinct and not all have the concept, or use it the same way. like many things, it's use is contentious to some people.

we go insane with the acroynyms in canada, lol, even MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ was used at one point. (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, and Two‑Spirit is the beginning)

Missing and murdered women 🤯

WeaselCheeks · 31/07/2026 16:38

Breadlegs · 31/07/2026 15:46

I've just been to florida and I can confirm that enough HP merchandise is bought every second to keep JK supporting women for centuries.

I think this is what frustrates a lot of TRAs (and even a lot of younger people in general, who've had it drilled into them that anything other than unquestioning acceptance of anyone identifying as trans into single sex spaces is bigotry).

They can say that wearing or buying Harry Potter merchandise is a visible indicator that a person is a bigot. They can say that buying Rowling's books shows that a person supports the genocide of trans people. They can scream until they're blue in the face how Rowling is an old hag who's a self-hating trans man infected with mold.

But, ultimately... it has no effect. Harry Potter is still a huge franchise with massive backing from both publishers and film/TV studios. New generations of children are reading and loving the books. Lego still release masses of sets, people flock en masse to the studio tour. Kids (and adults!) still wear t-shirts of the Hogwarts houses. And companies promote their Harry Potter doughnuts.

The Cormoran Strike books still do incredibly well, there's still TV series being made (The Running Grave is expected to start showing this December).

JK Rowling is still a billionaire, despite donating hundred of millions to charities, including one's helping single mothers, children in poverty, domestic violence victims, multiple sclerosis sufferers, refugees, Afghan women fleeing the Taliban, as well as her well-documented support for gender critical feminist organisations. She's one of the country's biggest taxpayers, because she doesn't hide all of her wealth in trusts and offshore accounts.

Screaming unhinged abuse at her is all they have, because nothing they say or do seems to materially impact the popularity of her work, and certainly doesn't impact her bank balance... because most people don't think it's unreasonable to say stuff that's basically, "biological sex is a scientific fact, and single sex spaces/sports exist for a reason".

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 16:53

WTF do murdered women have to do with the rest of the alphabet? Offensive force-teaming.

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 16:56

In places where curds are unavailable, would paneer be a suitable alternative?

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 31/07/2026 17:00

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 16:56

In places where curds are unavailable, would paneer be a suitable alternative?

Have just checked with the resident chef (DH) and he says kind of. It’s not too far off - won’t be quite the same but it’s better than most other alternatives.

BellsoftheCarols · 31/07/2026 17:21

In Glasgow we have a place called Tantrum Doughnuts.

I don't know why it suddenly came to mind 😀

JellySaurus · 31/07/2026 18:19

dinodart · 31/07/2026 15:01

two spirit, it's an indigenous thing, though that said... indigenous tribes are all very distinct and not all have the concept, or use it the same way. like many things, it's use is contentious to some people.

we go insane with the acroynyms in canada, lol, even MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ was used at one point. (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, and Two‑Spirit is the beginning)

🤯😡
Women and girls really don’t count in Canada.

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 18:26

For those who've not previously come across the '2S' addition, this is a very good explanation of what it is and why it shouldn't be there: culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/toward-an-end-to-appropriation-of-indigenous-two-spirit-people-in-trans-politics-the-relationship-between-third-gender-roles-and-patriarchy/

JellySaurus · 31/07/2026 18:28

MapleLeaf190 · 30/07/2026 12:06

I’m Canadian. Living in Canada.
CBC is very left leaning and writes articles about almost anything so I wouldn’t consider this headline news.
In the real world (not on the internet) no one actually cares and Timmies will still have a long line for the drivethru.
I’ve literally never heard a Canadian use the word TERF (I don’t even know what it means). Trans stuff doesn’t come up in Canada nearly as much as it seems to in the UK (based off how many feeds there are on this site about it). It’s literally never mention in day to day living.
The media loves blowing things up from nothing - this is a great example.

Perhaps because you have passed laws supporting men’s rights to do whatever they like and go wherever they like as long as they claim mythical ‘womanhood’. Of course people are afraid to speak up, of course women and girls are afraid to object, when recognising and stating out loud that these invaders are MEN makes them the criminals.

spannasaurus · 31/07/2026 18:37

I’ve literally never heard a Canadian use the word TERF

The (I assume) Canadians who attacked the Vancouver Rape Relief centre used the word TERF when they nailed a dead rat to the door

Coffee Chain Tim Hortons in Canada does Harry Potter donuts and ppl lose their minds
Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/07/2026 18:41

dinodart · 30/07/2026 15:23

For one thing, Canada has gender self-id, this means that a man can go into any women's space like a changing room and simply say he is a woman and he can be there. It doesn't come up in everyday talk perhaps but it's absolutely deep in society. There are men in women's prisons, there was Amy Hamm's case who is a nurse in BC who was disciplined for her remarks on trans stuff, Jordan Peterson was disciplined for remarks about it by the college of psychologists and it was upheld by the court of Ontario, to volunteer for things I am asked my pronouns on the form, there are girls who are uncomfortable with using their bathrooms at school because boys use them (like my niece), there are biological males in women's sports, changing rooms, etc. Also, gender identity is written into our human rights code now, which is it's own big problem.

I am also Canadian, it's everywhere where I am. The only reason it doesn't come up in conversation is because people just accept it and aren't fighting it. It's like they accept it as the truth.

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Yaniv and his vexatious persecution of female beauticians in the Human Rights courts as well.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/07/2026 18:44

We've had threads about things in Canada for a decade or so on MN because some of the earliest examples of plot losing were there.

MoistVonL · 31/07/2026 18:48

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 16:56

In places where curds are unavailable, would paneer be a suitable alternative?

Funnily enough, crumbled Wensleydale isn't a bad substitute. A bit of a squeak, right acidity. Paneer's a bit too lacking in bite and taste to work.

You can make them with a sachet of veg rennet but I tend to end up making it too salty when I've tried myself.

dinodart · 31/07/2026 19:00

spannasaurus · 31/07/2026 18:37

I’ve literally never heard a Canadian use the word TERF

The (I assume) Canadians who attacked the Vancouver Rape Relief centre used the word TERF when they nailed a dead rat to the door

yeah... that other commenter probably barely hears the word TERF because this stuff is barely even in conversations to begin with here. we aren't debating it like the UK is. of course it's not completely non-existent, but we've had insane things like that fake prosthetic boobed teacher which you think could peak a country but we remain as a country with our heads in the sand on this topic.

the problem is though as I previously mentioned in this thread, gender identity (and gender expression) is already in our human rights code, we already have gender self-id... we never really had the debate over this stuff as a country. debating it is almost pointless because we've already lost...

actually even our prime minister right now Mark Carney has a daughter that identifies as non-binary and is a trans activist... i wish I was kidding.

that said, jordan peterson did try to say something against bill c16 which was him explaining the problem with adding gender identity and gender expression to the human rights code - this is actually what initially brought peterson to the limelight. but he was mostly just demonized the same way JKR is.

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Igmum · 31/07/2026 19:01

ProfessorBinturong · 31/07/2026 18:26

For those who've not previously come across the '2S' addition, this is a very good explanation of what it is and why it shouldn't be there: culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/toward-an-end-to-appropriation-of-indigenous-two-spirit-people-in-trans-politics-the-relationship-between-third-gender-roles-and-patriarchy/

Absolutely fascinating article thank you @ProfessorBinturong

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/07/2026 19:01

MoistVonL · 31/07/2026 18:48

Funnily enough, crumbled Wensleydale isn't a bad substitute. A bit of a squeak, right acidity. Paneer's a bit too lacking in bite and taste to work.

You can make them with a sachet of veg rennet but I tend to end up making it too salty when I've tried myself.

Halloumi?

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 31/07/2026 19:07

MoistVonL · 31/07/2026 18:48

Funnily enough, crumbled Wensleydale isn't a bad substitute. A bit of a squeak, right acidity. Paneer's a bit too lacking in bite and taste to work.

You can make them with a sachet of veg rennet but I tend to end up making it too salty when I've tried myself.

Interesting! Taking notes…

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 31/07/2026 19:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/07/2026 19:01

Halloumi?

I love halloumi, but I’m thinking too much squeak. There’s a fine squeak to melt balance…

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/07/2026 19:15

We used to have a Tim Horton’s near us, but it closed down, otherwise I’d be going and buying these.

Every time I eat a doughnut, a trans woman loses his sparkle.

Lululimess · 31/07/2026 19:17

I love Tim Hortons. It’s my fave in Canada and the UK and I also love HP so hope this comes to the UK

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 31/07/2026 19:20

books holiday to Canada immediately