STOP MIS GENDERING ME JUST SAY SHE

[RogueFemale]

In case anyone has missed this prize example of a mentally ill adult male exhibiting trans entitlement.

BTW, lots of people having problems with Cloudflare, on various devices. Thread on Site Stuff. Just in case anyone thought it was just you!

No, you’re misrepresenting what being gender critical is. It’s not about performing gender stereotypes that match sex. It’s the opposite.

Sex is immutable. People can present how they like, wear whatever but men can’t become women. When people talk about their “gender” they’re describing something more akin to their personally.

I appreciate that’s not comfortable for you - special gender feelz will never make me think a man has become a woman, even if they do their hair and make up and wear blue wigs and stripy socks.

Yep three times i have had to verify i am a human tonight

I'm not sure where I fit. I am a working class woman with a working class husband and two working class adult children and a disabled adult adult son with complex needs. I have a hard won social science degree. My ex (who was a bit of an arse tbf) used to call me a bleeding heart liberal quite often. I guess that's why I don't fit in here. I confess I accidentally drifted onto the feminist board via active conversations without noticing what it was.. I've an ex colleague who is trans.. I saw what they went through and continue to go through.. I guess I see things from a very different perspective. I am massively pro women's rights which I doubt would be believed (weird) , i definitely don't hate women and I'm definitely a tired, slightly fat middle-aged woman with too much on her mind and who doesn't usually cause much offence. People general like me. I'm pretty normal apart from my childish toilet humour which is normal in my family. I'm not known for spouting bullshit but I do like unicorns so maybe... Hey ho..

Me too

As I mentioned, the app keeps dying for me. It’s been nice to see the love hearts on my posts on the mobile site, the app only shows thanks! <humblebrag>

Do you think the blue-wigged, stripy socked tantrumy dude who is the subject of this thread is a woman?

That sounds like something out of the Emerald City tbf 🤣

No. I never said I did. I think they maybe identify as female but that their mental health is the major issue right now

So - SOME men can become women, but not this one? How do you tell the difference?

I do standby my standpoint of recognising that being trans is an actual thing and that there is a law there to protect such people from being subjected to prejudicial behaviour.

Goodness. No one has denied that some people want to present as the opposite sex (being trans). There might even be posters on this thread that wish to present as the opposite sex whilst acknowledging that they haven’t actually changed sex. Or posters with family members who are ‘trans’. People ‘being trans’ is not a surprise to us.

People on this thread understand the EA. Some are lawyers. Gender reassignment as a protected characteristic has been acknowledged. I guarantee everyone encounters ‘scary views’ as we all live in the real world and some actively encourage academic argumentation for a living. Most of us tend to be life long lefties but are politically homeless when the leader of the Labour Party try to say some women have penises. No they don’t.

Pretty much everyone who contributes to these threads object to men entering female spaces on the basis of feeling womanly. And no one wants to see young people become permanently infertile or worse due to taking cross sex hormones or having experimental surgery. No one wants to be told that being female is wearing makeup and dresses. It’s really too bad you don’t read what’s being argued here. You might find yourself agreeing with these tenets. Ah well.

i dunno.. maybe the ones that have done it so successfully that you don't know the difference?

You're USA then. That might explain a lot. Your ignorance of the law, for a start.

Protip: stop using the ROFL emoji in reply to everyone.

I agree with much of what you've said and I am politically homeless lifelong leftie.

I also believe that some trans people have the right to be treated as the gender they identify with even if not everyone understands why this is not "pretend".

I'm from the south of the UK. Where I live. I sometimes like to overuse emojies. You're not the 1st to be irritated by this.. I make no apologies 🤣 (Do people still say ROFL? Is it American??)

There are LOADs of generalisations on here..

So you are only “true trans” if you pass? Not just if you say are?

Who gets to decide?

You argued for the opposite upthread, stating that being trans was on the basis of an inner gender feeling. But now you’re saying that isn’t enough, that a man can’t just feel like a woman to be one, he has to perform femininity as well.

Right now I have a dress on and am wearing a bit or make up (I’m at work). I look like a woman because I am one, but according to you I also need to present as one. Does that mean, according to you, when I go home later and put on trackies and a male jumper that I’ve actually changed sex?

if i am to believe what you say about yourself, then i am willing to believe you in this response.

You have been sucked in to a person (i assume a male) nonsense about his identity they are highly manipulative people.

Your ex may well be an arse but a bleeding heart liberal is probably correct.

Been there done that got the t shirt.

I went too the Durham gala the other weekend, the miners strike was a phenomena for working class women, they found their voices, learnt to speak, learnt to organise.

And yet it was so called leftist approaching me arguing that GC is anti feminist anti abortion right wing bla bla bla.

freed themselves and the miners in that strike suddenly recognised the value of women. Realised page three was not on, had GAY PRIDE fronted the march.

it was a rise of working class awareness, of what binds us.

this genderism is a middle class privileged belief, coming from above.
you made some saucy comment about reading.

I went and read many books to figure out where i stood, for myself and for women.

Helen Joyce is a good start.

Do not stick your fingers in your ears. I got a good kicking on here years ago. You are here for a reason if i believe you. Do what i did. Go learn.

By admitting that, you yourself are being prejudicial, abusive and acting illegally. At least by your own measure. Aren't you?

For your sex realist beliefs the TRAs would be condemning you as transphobic at best, you do know that right?

Really Trans Rights Activism is just Men's Rights Activism (or sheer bloody entitlement) on steroids under a different name.

Nah I was being ironic. It's nearly midnight here.

My belief is that if you really and truly identify as a gender then you should be that.. and you should be able to do so without being subjected to abuse

So you think the blue-wigged tantrumy dude IS a woman, and you’d welcome him into your private spaces as such?

And be fine with him changing next to your daughter and providing same-sex care for vulnerable female relatives?

I was just commenting on the snapshot in time, as I saw it, as depicting with that video, about that person. I may be incorrect about them. They appear unwell. People can say what they like about what I apparently think and am. They certainly have in this thread.

Which trans people? You can tell them apart from the fetishists, voyeurs and sex pests? How do you frame that in law and policy that only allow the 'right' ones access to what you call gendered spaces? Be honest you can't, can you?
Or are you saying the harm to women is less important than allowing all men who claim to be women access to female spaces? We take the opposite view, that is, barring all males from spaces where women and girls are vulnerable is the only way to ensure safety. These positions are irreconcilable.

But you look at him and see “woman” because he says so?

No. I think female only spaces should be protected but I'm just repeating myself now. Non gendered spaces would probably work best for those that wish to use them